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I read it again. Still says the same thing.Caboose wrote:
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I think you need to read the win condition again.Molest wrote: knowing that they will lose if they are lynched but wanting to help the town anyway.youneed to read the win condition again.
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Are you getting this from your role PM?Caboose wrote:Then you should know that if a townie leaves with a scum, then the townie will lose.
Unvote, Vote Caboose
In the OP, it says don't leave with married people.
Hint: I don't see that in my Role PM.
Asking Mod via PM if my paraphrasing of it is ok.KMD is the coolest dude who ever lost a bet to me - vonflare-
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I win when all of the scum are out.Kmd4390 wrote: Asking Mod via PM if my paraphrasing of it is ok.
Exactly? You are saying that town loses by leaving with scum. I do NOT see that in my Role PM at all.Caboose wrote:
Exactly.Kmd4390 wrote:
Are you getting this from your role PM?Caboose wrote:Then you should know that if a townie leaves with a scum, then the townie will lose.
Unvote, Vote Caboose
In the OP, it says don't leave with married people.
Hint: I don't see that in my Role PM.
Asking Mod via PM if my paraphrasing of it is ok.
What's with the vote?KMD is the coolest dude who ever lost a bet to me - vonflare-
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Well.... yeah.MonkeyMan576 wrote:Would the mod pair a townie with a scum at the same table?
If you think the person at your table is scum, you defend them today and lynch them tomorrow. We rotate tables.MonkeyMan576 wrote: But didn't he say that if your table partner is lynched, you are lynched too? How can you be expected to defend someone who might be scum?KMD is the coolest dude who ever lost a bet to me - vonflare-
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Lurker vote. Lurker showed up. I unvoted.zwetschenwasser wrote:
Backing off before the pressure starts, eh?Kmd4390 wrote:Unvote
Nice slip. <Hammer removed> *Sigh*zwetschenwasser wrote:Mrs.
Now we have a claimed power role at a table with Zwet. You have to think that's probably the scum's target tonight anyway though.
Bah.Vote Zwet
That's hammer. Don't think that I don't expect to get flak for this tomorrow, but I play to win more than I play to survive and this is the right move for the town. Zwet is scum. I'm almost sure of that. The power role will be the scum's target tonight anyway, so why would we take a chance elsewhere for our lynch? Lynch scum along with the scum's preferred target. It's the right move whether people agree or not.KMD is the coolest dude who ever lost a bet to me - vonflare-
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Rules wrote: 10 - During twilight, everyone may talk until night falls.
He straight up slipped with the "Mrs." post. There's no defense to a slip other than "oops. Not what I meant." We already gave him that:Jebus wrote:So why did it come up as a good idea to hammer zwet without even letting him say very much in defense?
And how the hell did we get to hammertime so quickly?
And I explained why it's ok lynching him (or "letting him leave") with a power role at his table, so I won't do that again unless someone wants clarification.Zwet's oops post wrote:Oops. I meant miss. Sorry. I'm sort of distracted tonight.
Also, we should take full advantage of this twilight rule. Just DO NOT give opinions on who you think is town right now. But feel free to discuss anything scummy about reactions to Zwet's slip or even my hammer. I'm going to look at Zwet's slip now to see if anyone was slow to react. If they were, and he flips scum, there's a likely partner. If he flips town, look at players who voted him.KMD is the coolest dude who ever lost a bet to me - vonflare-
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Possible partner.molestargazer wrote:
I don't like this argument.EGL wrote:Can't we wait to lynch Zwet until Zwet is at a table with another married person though? Or at least at a table with someone who doesn't have a PhD?
We have to lynch scum. Which means that we have to lynch whoever is at the scum's table.
Any one of us could come up with an argument like yours (even scum) as to why they shouldn't be lynched -I always win as town, trust me, orI have a Psychology degree, whatever. In my opinion, that is completely irrelevant. It smacks as an attempt to save your own life, and ignoring the main issue here - lynching someone who could very well be scum, and helping the town (Or in this case, the honest single people looking for a date!).
Now, the 'mrs' thing is a very difficult situation. It could be an honest mistake, as zwet has claimed. Or it could be a scum slip-up. Whilst this means I don't think we should lynch based on this evidence alone, it does go a way towards it.
Sometime when I have time, I'll try and do a post-by-post of Zwet's play so far and see what comes up.KMD is the coolest dude who ever lost a bet to me - vonflare-
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Exactly my point about no defense being available for a slip.Jebus wrote:
Well what do you expect to get as defense of a typo?He straight up slipped with the "Mrs." post. There's no defense to a slip other than "oops. Not what I meant." We already gave him that:
"Oh, it appears I've pressed the wrong key on my keyboard. Mis-typing something so vital is a null tell at best - anyone, town or scum, could possibly be prone to doing it"
And I should probably recount the votes to confirm hammer...
And I'm near positive that my vote was a hammer.KMD is the coolest dude who ever lost a bet to me - vonflare-
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Hmm. You are actually right. I was confusing this with another game and assuming that we voted WITH people at our tables.Jebus wrote:How many do we need to hammer?
I counted five votes on Zwet, I'm pretty sure with 12 alive that 7 is a hammer. So L-2.
Yikes.
Now what we have to ask ourselves is this. Was his "go town" post sincere, or did he realize what you did and want to try to pass off a "go town" post?KMD is the coolest dude who ever lost a bet to me - vonflare-
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What I was thinking was that we voted with the players at our table (which is NOT true btw). 4 votes x 2 would be 8 and a lynch.
I thought I was hammering. And if it was L-1, I would still be willing to hammer. I think that was an actual scum slip by Zwet. I still think he is scum. That's why I haven't unvoted.
I understand the votes on me. =/ I did say I expected flak for the hammer, and to find out it wasn't really the hammer just makes things worse.KMD is the coolest dude who ever lost a bet to me - vonflare-
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Still think he's scum.molestargazer wrote:In an attempt to get this game moving again, I'll make a quick post.
I will admit that some of zwet's more recent posts have almost made me regret defending him. However, I stand by my point that I think his twilight post was genuine, and I believe he is town. Whilst this doesn't confirm that Kmd's hammer was a scummy one, I think it's quite likely.
What does everyone else think about this? We need to talk again.KMD is the coolest dude who ever lost a bet to me - vonflare-
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I'd assume 1 to 2, 2 to 3, 3 to 4, etc.Nightfall wrote:
Max says we move one place, but I don't see where it says which way.Max wrote:Pre-Game
I don't think I said this in the rules but:
Each hour is precisely three weeks if no lynch is reached during this time the lovers move one place. There is no action stage inbetween this stage.
If a lynch is reached within the hour an action stage will take place.
Ie. does someone at table 2 go to table 1 or table 3?KMD is the coolest dude who ever lost a bet to me - vonflare-
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K.Caboose wrote:Can anybody make a convincing case on zwet?
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It shouldn't show backwards. Looks normal on my end.
But yeah, if it's backwards to anyone else, molest has it mostly right. Except that it's in reverse order...
If it showed up backwards to anyone else... wrote:- Posts useless one-liners.
- Claimed to not understand the game.
- Adds next to nothing to the game. (Read his post history. Seriously.)
- Admitted to being scum by nameclaiming a married prefix.
- Claimed jester. Pointless...
It's not great, but it's more than you can pull up for a "reasons Zwet is town" case.KMD is the coolest dude who ever lost a bet to me - vonflare-
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How is it WIFOM?zwetschenwasser wrote:It's not a question of leaning. Your "case" isn't solid, you have at worst a complete WIFOM statement and at best a criticism of my playstyle. A scumtell is something solid that you can back up with behavior, actions, etc.
What have you done that is more townie than scummy? And my case IS backed. I just don't want to quote your entire meaningless post history. Maybe 10% if that has actual content.
Hey guys, he was joking. He MUST be town.zwetschenwasser wrote:Your only "scumtell" is 5, and I've already cleared up that it was 100% a joke.KMD is the coolest dude who ever lost a bet to me - vonflare-
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WIFOM, maybe. Well, yeah. Ok, it's WIFOM. It comes down to whether we believe you or not. I'll give you that, it's WIFOM.zwetschenwasser wrote:The Mrs./Miss. thing is pure WIFOM. Even you can't deny it. And why are you putting words in my mouth? I never said that it made me town that I was joking.
And I'm not putting any words in your mouth. You straight up said that you "cleared it up that it was 100% a joke". If that's not supposed to be a defense, it's yet another completely useless point to make.KMD is the coolest dude who ever lost a bet to me - vonflare-
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roffman wrote:The last few posts confuse me. Are people debating the viability of the doc claim, or am I missing something?Kmd4390 wrote:Ok. I have reason to believe EGL probably is NOT a doc. I'm not claiming doc here, but based on my role, I don't think he is the doc. I'm not going to say more than that though.KMD is the coolest dude who ever lost a bet to me - vonflare-
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I only will do so if I have to claim.molestargazer wrote:Is asking why you're not going to say any more yield any information, or is this a situation of trying to draw blood from a stone?
Why so sure?roffman wrote:counter claims would already have occured.KMD is the coolest dude who ever lost a bet to me - vonflare-
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Jebus wrote:Unvoting Zwet was a waste of my time.
vote: zwetJebus wrote:So Zwet, you've just chosen to be lynched in the name of laziness?
Why the backpedaling AFTER the lynch has already happened?Jebus wrote:What a waste of a lynch, imo.KMD is the coolest dude who ever lost a bet to me - vonflare-
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Basically, I figured he had doc flavor, but wasn't a real doc.molestargazer wrote:I thought your reason for doubting the doc idea was down to your role, Kmd?
I guess it doesn't hurt to explain why I thought this.
When I thought we lynched Zwet before, I sent in a night action. I was told by the Mod that my role wasn't what I thought it was. It was just flavor. So it made me think EGL's role was probably just doc flavor too.
I didn't reveal this right away because it's basically claiming. But yeah. That was my reasoning for thinking EGL wasn't really a doc OR lying about his role.KMD is the coolest dude who ever lost a bet to me - vonflare-
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Because I didn't feel I needed to basically claim. The lynch was happening anyway with what I gave. The only reason I did so now is because I could tell it was going to be a distraction.Caboose wrote:
Why couldn't you tell us this before?Kmd4390 wrote:
Basically, I figured he had doc flavor, but wasn't a real doc.molestargazer wrote:I thought your reason for doubting the doc idea was down to your role, Kmd?
I guess it doesn't hurt to explain why I thought this.
When I thought we lynched Zwet before, I sent in a night action. I was told by the Mod that my role wasn't what I thought it was. It was just flavor. So it made me think EGL's role was probably just doc flavor too.
I didn't reveal this right away because it's basically claiming. But yeah. That was my reasoning for thinking EGL wasn't really a doc OR lying about his role.KMD is the coolest dude who ever lost a bet to me - vonflare-
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Reasons would be nice.roffman wrote:Ok, it looks like this a pure scum hunting game.vote KMDsecond on my list from yesterday.
Because by doing so, I'd be basically claiming. I didn't want to do that.Nightfall wrote:Yes KMD has contributed a lot, but I'm not so sure he's exchange with Caboose in
post 333 is that pro town looking. I don't see how it would have hurt to ask EGL to
confirm his role with the mod, especially since you/KMD already made it clear that
you didn't think he was what he was claiming to be.
If we knew it for certain, wouldn't we all be voting him already? I actually think Caboose has a pretty good case. I'm interested in seeing Jebus's defense.Nightfall wrote: Caboose, Although I agree with almost all of your post, I don't think that
we can say for certain regarding the first point that Jebus "knew" Zwets
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