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Also, just for clarification:
This is rarely true.CD wrote:It's not a good idea because lynching the mod means: no more vote counts, no dead thread, no more lynches (he has to close the thread, post death scenes, etc.), and no more night phases. You see without a mod we don't have much of a game do we? Thus we shouldn't lynch the mod.
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Unvote. Vote: Nobody Special
What exactly are you afraid of? Why are you so nervous about lynching TL and why do you have to distance yourself from any accountability by claiming you're still in the RVS? The latter is a big red flag to me.Note: Weekends are my busiest time. Expect me to not post much from Friday to Sunday.
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CEB was a large, and my first game back at mafia. It was an exception.TheLonging wrote:
CEB begs to differ otherwise e_eExe wrote:
Psh, not playing smart my ass. I've caught scum with my strategy multiple times now.TL wrote: He's not playing smart, but he's town.
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ROFLMYWAFFLE!!!!NS wrote:Stop projecting your mediocrity and fearfulness on me, plzkthx.
My fearfulness? What fearfulness is that? I'm not the one afraid of a wagon...you can tell by the fact that, unlike you, I didn't unvote.
Plus, yourad hominemis noted.
No. RVS lasts as long as scummy players need to use it to backtrack and reduce accountability.NS wrote:RVS lasts far longer than anyone ever acknowledges. I feel I am doing a Public Service by pointing this out as often as possible.
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BV310 hasn't posted yet.
NS is hella scummy right now. Piggybacking on the Chesskid wagon to save his skin is obvious.
Chesskid wagon is pretty strong with 4 people, though I really don't see the merit in it. The late joiners to the wagon are weak as hell.
Cooldog, why is your vote on Tasky?
@Parama:I think Moo is on the Chesskid wagon. I could be wrong.
Fixed'd.
Wingless needs to improve his grammar. That's annoying as hell.Last edited by Parama on Mon Oct 11, 2010 10:23 am, edited 2 times in total.Note: Weekends are my busiest time. Expect me to not post much from Friday to Sunday.
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Chesskid is playing worse than ever... I have a sinking suspicion he's town though. Either way, a lynch is not yet in order.
NS is still obvscum, but he hasn't posted since the last time I said that so nothing has really changed.
I am pretty much certain there is scum somewhere on this wagon. It's rare enough that 6 town members agree on something, especially so quickly.Mod wrote:chesskid3 - TheLonging, Moospiker, Nobody Special, Wingless, CooLDoG, Zang
Reads of each, based on their votes:
TL: First voter suggests he isn't scum, but it's certainly possible. TL, your vote-posts don't say a whole lot about Chesskid, anything more you'd like to say about that?
Moospiker: Vote suggests he doesn't actually understand what's being said...appears to be calling out Chesskid for hypocrisy, but I don't see it. Moospiker, can you give more justification to your vote?
NS: craplogic here. Evasiveness and fingerpointing? I don't really see the first anywhere, and the latter is only a scumtell in the right context.
Wingless: God, the grammar makes attitude hard to read, and attitude is everything. However, I'd say it seems genuine.
Cooldog: Your reasoning is inconsistent. You vote Chesskid because he has only voted the biggest wagon, and yet in the next post you explain that you like to be voting the big wagon to get the most information. Correct me if I'm wrong here, but that's a contradiction.
Zang: Provides reasoning, and sounds genuine, if a little bit underthought.
Most likely scum on the wagon:
NS, Cooldog
Still need to justify their vote:
TL, Moospiker
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EBWOP: I guess I should have made this clear: even if Chesskid is scum, I still believe that there are scum on his wagon. When the wagon is building so fast, I find it more likely that scum would bus. And, in that case, I'd say Chesskid-scum = Cooldog-scum. They have a pretty clear connection.Note: Weekends are my busiest time. Expect me to not post much from Friday to Sunday.
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Let's not cry like toddlers.chesskid3 wrote:My play is not horrible. Fuck you.
I also didn't actually say horrible. I'm just saying worse than your other games, seeing as I'm in so many of them.Note: Weekends are my busiest time. Expect me to not post much from Friday to Sunday.
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I told you how I felt about your alignment. Any good points in your post were reiterated in mine, which you could read and notice yourself.
I also disliked your softclaim. If you felt the wagon was truly opportunistic (which it does appear to be) then I think you shouldn't have claimed at all.
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Yeah, I don't see this. Hypocrisy regarding the RVS is a crap argument to start with, plus you're trying to spin implied hypocrisy out of Chesskid's vote. Doesn't hold up to me.Moospiker wrote:I still find that the way you worded your vote on NS is poor and makes you seem like a person still in the RVS. My vote stands.
Something that scum rarely do, due to the nearly damning result.Moo wrote:But sorry for missing your reasoning, which incedently came after your vote.This is almost equivalent to quick-hammering then explaining your hammer the next day, once you've had time to think of a plausible reason.
So that's two people who are genuinely determined to stick with Chess for now. Once the others respond to my questions, I can decide which of you is the most likely scum. Moo is looking pretty good right now.Note: Weekends are my busiest time. Expect me to not post much from Friday to Sunday.
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Btw, forgot to mention, "I'm a bad player," is a really crap defense.Nobody Special wrote:@chesskid (and, well, everyone): I don't just suck at RVS, I suck at Mafia. Ask anyone.Note: Weekends are my busiest time. Expect me to not post much from Friday to Sunday.
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But youCooLDoG wrote:Voteing for the biggest wagon with no other reasons is scummy in my mind (sorry I couldn't be more clear). I think pressure is good in the early stages, but Chesskid (and tasky) haven't really given good reasons for there vote. Chesskid just jumped on the biggest wagon without giving a reason other then that.alsostated that you don't want to lynch Chess, you are just on his wagon because it's the biggest. Admittedly, you claim it's for pressure (which is fair) but then the same reasoning can be applied to Chesskid's. Either way, your argument sounds hypocritical.Note: Weekends are my busiest time. Expect me to not post much from Friday to Sunday.
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Ok, NS. Let's take your arrogant attitude and shove it right back down your throat, shall we?
Especially since THAT DOESN'T ANSWER MY QUESTION.
But hey, you're brilliant, so I don't wanna insult you or anything, but let me MAKE IT HUGE FOR YA, KAY!?
Now if you actually read, you may see that your "evasiveness and fingerpointing" is bullshit. So I want you to go back, and point out what exactly made you feel that Chesskid was being evasive and finger pointing.Exe in 116 wrote:NS: craplogic here. Evasiveness and fingerpointing? I don't really see the first anywhere, and the latter is only a scumtell in the right context.Note: Weekends are my busiest time. Expect me to not post much from Friday to Sunday.
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So NS is just going to be belligerent, and I don't have the patience to deal with that right now.
Here's what I want to know:
Cooldog, your analysis suggests that you believe there is at least 1 scum on Chesskid's wagon, regardless of his alignment. Who do you suppose that scum is?Note: Weekends are my busiest time. Expect me to not post much from Friday to Sunday.
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Weekends are my limited-posting time, as some of you who have played with me before may know. However, have time for a quick post.
Moospiker disappearing is not good. I still think his vote on Chess was pretty iffy, so I want to hear from him.
However, the Cooldog wagon is pretty solid. His defensiveness over 3 votes screams scum. And his vote on chess never made any sense, especially the whole "I don't want Chess lynched, I just think he should be put at L-1."
NS switching to Cooldog when his wagon is picking up speed makes perfect sense as scum bussing. Cooldog-scum = NS-scum IMO.
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Ok so here's what has happened.
Cooldog could very easily be an SK trying to explain any future kills.
He could also be scum trying to explain his kills, but that is irrelevant as you will see.
The real issue here is that if Cooldog plays as a smart townie, he should not be using his ability. It's too huge of a risk, especially in the sense of what a doc's entire purpose is. If he accidentally kills the person, he's made things worse.
So the problem with this claim is that either way we should still end up with only 1 kill and he will be able to say "I didn't use it."
As such, I still find this to be a pretty strong scum-claim. I'm still in favor of a cooldog lynch, but it seems that we have a group of very fickle players here. I'd rather not have any more claims (or at least, only 1 more if people absolutely won't lynch Cooldog).
If not Cooldog, NS is still a very strong scum-read for me. My vote stays for now though.
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Alright, so Enigma is doing stupid stuff, but like others, I can't see scum just outright asking for a claim...too blatant to be legitimate role-fishing. Just seems misguided.
Moospiker is still faffing about -- stronger scum-read here every post. He threw suspicion on Wingless without actually going after him, and his justification of Cooldog seems like buddying to me.
Cooldog's claim + crappy vote are still suspicious, but I can't see him being scum with NS anymore after pushing it so hard when he's alone on the wagon. I'm reevaluating my Cooldog read based on the other players, and I'd say:
Scumteam: NS, Moospiker, ???
I'm all for lynching NS. He has done nothing pro-town, and the suspicions I had about him earlier have not changed in the least. If NS is town, then I may have to re-evaluate Cooldog.
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I love how no one can keep up with contextual reading.
This is all around bullshit. First of all, I AM going after you. I just think NS should be first. You may notice, you're in my scum-list.Moospiker wrote:Says the person who is throwing suspicion on me without actually going after me. You consistently attack everyone. What do you mean I'm faffing about? You give no justification for any of your points.
Second, I am not consistently attacking everyone. I am attacking scummy players, who so far have been you, NS, and cooldog, for the most part.
And your stances on things are safe, hence the faffing about.
And here. I am talking about your old vote for Chesskid. It was a crappy vote with bad justification. Your current vote on NS is not the one being referred to.Cooldog wrote:Also, @exe, you call my vote crappy, yet you vote for the same guy, isn't that slightly contradictory?
Nope. But I'm pretty sure Moospiker and NS are.Chesskid wrote:Exe are you scum bro?
This argument about your plan needs to stop. Your plan is crap. If scum have a roleblocker, OR if Cooldog is smart and doesnt use his ability, OR if a doc lands on Cooldog's target, OR if there is some other killing role who lands on Cooldog's target, Cooldog gets lynched. These are all scenarios where Cooldog could be town and still have the night end in a way that makes you lynch him, based on your plan.Wingless wrote:insert stuff about the plan here
The fact is that Cooldog should do whatever he wants, but probably shouldn't use his protect unless he's thinking like a vig. Controlling him or basing the next lynch on results that are unpredictable are both bad ideas. Lynching cooldog should be based on his scumminess, not the night actions (barring investigations, obviously).
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Misrep much? I mention 5 people in that post. 1 (Enigma) I say is playing badly. 3(Cooldog, you, NS) I suggest are probably scum, though not likely all scum. That's only 3 people. 1 other person mentioned (Wingless) I don't even state a particular opinion on. I am in no way attacking "everyone" by attacking 3 players (the general number of scum in your average 12 man game) and calling 1 player foolish.Moospiker wrote:Exe: I say that you are going after everyone as you give a bad point about all the players mentioned in that post (even the ones that you don't think are scummy) and then have a thorough fail in justifying it well enough.
Also, your "fail in justifying it well enough" argument is crap. You can't just state that something is a certain way and have it be true. My justifications make perfect sense.
Uprising reads as town to me. I don't see any scum motivations in his actions.Note: Weekends are my busiest time. Expect me to not post much from Friday to Sunday.
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Moo either has serious reading comprehension issues, or intentionally misrepped. Take a look at the first quote in his post 325.
You bold the first part of the sentence, and ignore the second part which would've answered your question.Exe wrote:3(Cooldog, you, NS) I suggest are probably scum,though not likely all scum.
In the second thing you quoted, you have shown my reasoning for Cooldog not being scum with NS. Hence, in the first quote I say they arenot likely all scum. Because I suspect that either NS or Cooldog is scum, but not both.
Therefore, clearly nothing has changed, and I don't know how you didn't see the second part of the sentence you bolded. Ignoring it? Probably.
NS still needs to post. His lurking is not helping my suspicions on him.
Tasky, why vote TL? I don't find TL scummy at all.
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Goodposting.Tasky wrote:yeee. we need bigger bandwagons:
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Tasky still reads as town. I don't see scum motivation anywhere.
And at this point, I feel like NS is being deliberately anti-town in order to pull of a "too-obvious to be scum," defense. I just don't buy it. I am still feeling the scum-vibes: this guy needs to be lynched.
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Rofl. Your 31 posts have been 50% fluff/appeal to noobishness/trolling. The remaining 50% was half crap arguments. You haven't done anything pro-town.Nobody Special wrote:31 posts, commentary, and a vote or three.
Besides tunelling me, what have YOU done?
And rofl on the tunnelling. Tunneling = ignoring other players. You notice my case on Moospiker? My case on Cooldog? My reads on all the other players? That's called not tunneling. You're just trying to discredit my case on you.
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Not trying to justify his votes =/= random voting. His playstyle is risky, and it could be argued to be anti-town by some (something which I disagree with). However, he is putting himself in a position that scum wouldn't want: for example, he is late to this wagon without much reasoning. Scum tend to avoid such positions.Zang wrote:I don't see town motivation either and like NS, he hasn't done anything pro town. He just randomly votes for people, if anything he is more anti town. So why do you think that tasky is town while NS is scum?
Like I said; I don't see scum motivation for his actions, and that's what I look for.
You should place your vote on people you find scummy, when you find them scummy. Don't worry about putting people at L-1 or not, scum quickhammering is not actually a legitimate threat, despite popular opinion.Uprising wrote:Is it far too early to put NS at L-1?Note: Weekends are my busiest time. Expect me to not post much from Friday to Sunday.
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I'm retarded. Should've been Physics mafia. Quantum and physics...confusing as hell.Exe wrote:You want to see L-1 votes at work? Look at Quantum Mafia where I replaced in. It works.Note: Weekends are my busiest time. Expect me to not post much from Friday to Sunday.
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So NS basically played like crap because he knew he had a role to protect himself. What a waste of a power role.
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I'm pretty uncertain between Cooldog and Moospiker at this point. Cooldog-town was based on NS-scum. However, Moospiker is pretty much scummy either way.
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Well, I am tired of outing roles at this point. We're at, what, 4 potential power roles now? Chesskid's hinting, Cooldog's vig (calling his role a doctor is just silly), NS as a watcher/tracker, and Moospiker as a tracker/rolecop...someone here needs to die. Chesskid is out -- he's not even scummy. Cooldog's vig is easy to test.
That leaves it to NS vs Moospiker, and I have to say that Moospiker's role sounds like a scum role. That + his actions are pretty damning. I'm keeping my vote where it is at this point.Note: Weekends are my busiest time. Expect me to not post much from Friday to Sunday.
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Yeah, Tasky, the problem is that another wagon is not going to help. There is no alternative to your proposed scenario.
If we wagon someone else, and they are town PR - we will not lynch them, most likely.
If we wagon someone else, and they are town vanilla - you're saying we should lynch them instead. This both reduces the chances of scum hitting a vanilla (and increases chances of hitting a PR) with their kill, as well as pretty much guarantees a townie lynch.
If we wagon someone else, and they are scum - they will claim town PR, and we will be in the same situation as the first one.
See how wagoning another person isn't going to help? When you've gotten as many claims as we have, it's the best idea to lynch the one that is most scummy. Which one do you think that is?Note: Weekends are my busiest time. Expect me to not post much from Friday to Sunday.
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Additionaly: Another possible scenario is technically to have a vanilla townie claim and offer to be lynched, but that is incredibly anti-town for the most obvious reasons.
Long story short: Only a vanilla townie is going to claim vanilla right now, so I do not like the idea of wagoning a fifth player.Note: Weekends are my busiest time. Expect me to not post much from Friday to Sunday.
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Alright, so Occam's Razor says Charnel is at least an equally viable lynch to NS. Time toUnvote.
The difference in Charnel's post has thrown me off, and I'm starting to wonder if Moospiker was the problem, rather than the slot.
However, I'm still not for the case on Uprising. He still reads VI to me.
Doing a reread now, looking for things that I missed.
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Alright, reread stopped short as I started with an NS iso and noticed something huge that doesnotmake sense.
NS's second ability isNS wrote:Nobody Special wrote:Here is my Role PM:
Parama wrote:Nobody Special, you are a.Security Camera Watcher
Each night, you stare at several blurry television screens all night long. Or you just stick to one and hope nothing goes wrong elsewhere.
You have 2 abilities, but you may only use one each night:
1. You may watch one player and see who targets them that night (but not what actions were performed on that player).
2. You may watch all cameras at once, learning every action that is performed that night, but not by who nor on who. However, once you’ve used this action, you will not be able to perform any action the following night.
You win when all threats to the town are eliminated.
Please confirm via PM with a paraphrase of your role's abilities.NOTa track. It's just a "what abilities have been used," checker. This is a HUGE scum beneficial role. Being able to know the roles that were used in the night means knowing if there is a cop, the number of docs, and potentially any other power roles that might exist. I don't see the value of this ability as a town ability.
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On another note:
About the bolded, I have two questions.chesskid3 wrote:I already posted about the misrep the new dude did. That may very well have been an accident, because the rest of his stuff is good. While he still very well may be scum,he is at the very least very willing to bus[/b, so we aren't getting him today.
NS is not today's lynch either. I'm going to reread in a bit
1) How do you know he's "very" willing to bus? I see no evidence one way or the other on this without seeing flips.
2) If you think he's really bussing, then your suspects should be in this group somewhere: Uprising, Nobody Special, Wingless (his top 3 suspects). Any reason for this discrepancy?Note: Weekends are my busiest time. Expect me to not post much from Friday to Sunday.
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It would be smarter (even if they were pro-town) for NS to claim that he used the ability but to NOT claim results. In the event that he is town, why the hell would we have him claim his results, thereby revealing all of the power roles to the scum? That'd be stupid. So regardless of alignment, NS will most likely use the second ability and refuse to give the information, and therefore there won't really be any way to catch him if he is scum.Tasky wrote:Additionally, if NS were scum, they couldn't use the second ability (the one which is the good for scum, after all, what good does a watcher to a scumbag?) since they have to report us their results tomorrow and I think we could catch them if they fakeclaim a result, simply because there seem to be so many town-power roles (and if there are not many power roles, we should avoid to lynch such a strong power role anyway.)Note: Weekends are my busiest time. Expect me to not post much from Friday to Sunday.
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I see. I did indeed misunderstand the point.
Well then your position is that we should lynch Uprising because if NS is scum, we will be able to catch him in a lie sooner or later?
Hmm. There is logic to your position. My only fear is that we will be outing another role if Uprising turns out to be town. Balanced with the life of a potential watcher, or else a confirmed scum. And the fact that I don't think Uprising is likely scum...
Nope, I think I'll keep my vote where it is. I'll keep it on a person I suspect to be scum rather than supporting the wagon of one of my town (albeit VI) reads just on the basis of a claim.Note: Weekends are my busiest time. Expect me to not post much from Friday to Sunday.
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In fact, if NS really is scum, he'll be able to use his 2nd ability, and even if we catch him in a lie afterward, the scum will have hugely valuable information. I don't want to see that happen.
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Yeah, we lose a watcher (I can only assume this is what you mean by "very valuable power role," as I've pointed out why his second ability is primarily anti-town, even if he were to be town). Not the only potentially powerful role we have though, and probably won't be the last powerful possible-town role to come up before the game is over.Tasky wrote:
yeah, but don't forget the converse of your agument: if NS is really town, we will lose a very valuable power role.Exe wrote:In fact, if NS really is scum, he'll be able to use his 2nd ability, and even if we catch him in a lie afterward, the scum will have hugely valuable information. I don't want to see that happen.
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Sorry, classes have been nuts lately. Let's see here.
Your case on TL is actually decent, but I hadn't gotten a strong scum-vibe from his actions myself yet. I am still favoring NS at the moment. I'd like to see how TL responds.
It seems like pretty much no one is going to post before deadline, and I'm obviously not in favor of a no-lynch, D1 no-lynch pretty much fucks the town. So if the TL wagon gets to L-1 before deadline, I'll hammer.Note: Weekends are my busiest time. Expect me to not post much from Friday to Sunday.
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Prod recieved. Halloween n classes have been/continue to be nuts.
I'll hammer to avoid a no-lynch, but not right now. I'm going to re-ISO a few players before this day is finished while we still have time.Note: Weekends are my busiest time. Expect me to not post much from Friday to Sunday.
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Alright, popping in for a quickie.
Welcome to the game lrd.
A few questions I'd like answered:
@Chesskid: Why is Uprising so strongly scum for you when NS is 100% without a doubt VI to you?
Also, your analysis is a vote analysis with zero certainty on any of the reads. Vote analyses are for after a flip. Not to mention many of the conclusions you draw from the wagon make no sense.
Third: I notice that you seem to be spending a LOT of time commenting on me without actually ever pointing out a read of me other than gut. Any reason you're so obsessed with me?
@TL: In the past few days as your lynch has been hanging at L-1, do you still feel the same way about your scumreads? This answer is important to me.
@Charnel: You've suggested that the TL wagon is (essentially) an attempt by someone to save someone else, if I understand correctly. So tell us who you think the two someones are.
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This is the context for my question, as it came right before my post.Charnel wrote:You do realize you are continiously convincing yourself that you are right, do you?
anyway, what I argued was that not hammering isn't weird. That happened before. There was only one wagon that really lingered long at L-1, well after it became clear that it failed: yours. The wagon on me only disappeared (after it became clear that it failed), when you pushed the TL case. Before that, I had 4 votes. Baseless ones, votes that weren't doing a thing. Which is my point again here: the TL wagon lost momentum. Valid arguments have been brought up that it shouldn't succeed. In general, an Uprising lynch is preferred by more players. Still the TL wagon is therewhen it basically failed already. It shouldn't become the lynch, seen the support the Uprising case has. But still it is there: who is keeping the wagon there, and why? Who benefits?
It is NS's strategy (and I know I'm tunneling here), but I don't know who is using it. Someone is trying to push this lynch through because of a deadline, or because somebody thinks he has to hammer because nothing else can happen. The same happened on you, and on me: people were waiting to get the lynch through not because of valid reasons, but because "it should be done".Note: Weekends are my busiest time. Expect me to not post much from Friday to Sunday.
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Also:
Charnel, since you clearly did not understand my question. I am askingwho(what player) the TL wagon is saving, andwho(again, player) is the one attempting to do the saving?
Example: Do you think Chesskid is pushing TL in order to save NS? Do you think Cooldog is just using Chesskid's case on TL to save Uprising?
These are just examples, so please tell me what you actually think rather than just the theory you believe in.Note: Weekends are my busiest time. Expect me to not post much from Friday to Sunday.
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Alright, enough faffing about. I've heard pretty much every possible thing there is to hear from everyone. Tomorrow should be a guaranteed scum-lynch, if today isn't.
And I'm not going to lynch Uprising. He reads VI to me.
So that leaves TL. Not a strong read, but he doesn't read heavily town to me either, so better than a no-lynch.
Tomorrow, let's not leave the day to crappy deadline lynches, shall we?
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