Mini 708 - Cheat Mafia (GAME OVER)

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Vote GhostWriter

for not posting yet.

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@animo: The only reason Nat claimed is because she claimed miller. This might have caused problems later on when cops start investigating.

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@Electra: If someone said they were a death miller, I wouldn't believe them for a second. Not only is the role extremely rare, people don't usually know about it.

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EBWOP:

Mod: Prod Mana_Ku. She hasn't posted yet.

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@Electra: One can claim death miller but not be death miller (In my experience of reading old games when I'm bored, I've read 55 or so games with only 1 death miller being real (Happy Tree Friends))

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I didn't mention DH because he wasn't even nessecarily sure he was a miller in he first place.

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Why do you want to know how many answers I have? How will that help you?

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Vote GW

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Vote GW

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If DH claims I'd also like to hear the flavor for his millerness. I have to agree that having a benefit on the test of 'not being a miller' is not likely. I'm maybe thinking though that some benefits are tailor-made to certain roles though (for example a mafia goon might gain cop or NK immunity, while a doc may get an ability to protect more people at once or something like that).

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How does that make you be a 'bad kid' though?

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@Dattebayo: What I mean is what makes you look like you'd try to take us out? Did you shoplift, are a maniac etc?

Which question are you meaning for me to answer?

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My answer to it back then was why do you want to know?

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I feel that it's practically telling the anti-town forces how good you might possibly be, which is not a good thing in my mind.

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@DH: Why would you say you're a miller, then when we point it out you take it all back?

Vote Der Hammer

@DGB Acing the test only gives you extra abilities, you still need to look for scum.

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@Mod: You counted me for voting Ghostwriter, and DGB isn't even in the votecount.

Thanks, Fixed.

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...damn.

Why are you worrying about not hammering Der Hammer?

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malthusis wrote:
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...damn.


Why are you worrying about not hammering Der Hammer?

I'm not entirely sure I want to go to night yet.

Then why did you hammer him?

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On a side note, I still can't believe that Der Hammer said he was a miller when he wasn't.

Even if we all agree about who we want to lynch, we should at least talk about all the other possibilities as well.

Mod: Please prod everyone who hasn't posted today (aka. sirdanilot, vismaior, and ghostwriter).

Okay, thanks.

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I've just thought, that maybe, because of my role, I will get Jester. DO NOT lynch me.

This, more then anything, convinces me that you are not town. If you were Jester, you would have done anything to get lynched right off the bat (A good example of this is MSIII (ongoing)). Also, you would probably know you were a Jester right off the start, instead of thinking 'hmm, maybe I'm a Jester?'

Vote Animopherv1

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Mod, we need some major prods so we can get this lynch through.

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Axel, you do know that with Electra's vote that's a lynch, right?

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Who would that be?

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I got two different answers to 7.

One I got by peeking on Dattebayo's test.
The other was given to me by Xtomx.

Someone lied to Xtomx.

It could be possible that someone lied to Dattebayo as well.

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Mod: Can you please prod Axelrod and Dattebayo as well as replace Ghostwriter and Electra (since this will be there 3rd prod)

Got it.

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I have a crucial piece of evidence that fits this all together: I cheated off of DGB's test the first day, so I saw his answer for #7, which matches the answer given to me by Nat when I traded answers with him. This also fits in with the theory of sirdanilot's suspicions, so this gives me enough reasons to

Vote Natirasha

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Finally, a question to malthy: did you lie to me that first day? I traded your answer to DGB(really, I believe that , so viola.

No. I would put in more right now, but the fact that only half the people here are talking makes me want to wait to see what they have to say first.

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Occham's Razor dictates that the simplest idea must be true. This means that instead of having all sorts of assumptions, you use the simplest truth (ie. Nat is scum).

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Just waiting for lurkers to chime in with their views.

Mass replacements and general inactivity. A player who isn't there can't place a vote on Natirasha.

QFT

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@Jahudo: Which post are you quoting? 298 or 290? 299 was Nat's post and I can't really tell which one you are referring to.

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1st of all Jahudo, I would agree with everyone else that the best time to claim miller is Day 1. However, I would still like to see Nat answer our questions. (He seems to have slipped away).

@Malt's

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: Would an explanation (partial or full) help the town here? How much to catch scum?

An explanation of what? This is an extremely vague question.

I would like to know how you got which questions were right or not back when none of us did. Also, another question: Did you cheat off of Animopherv1 N1? Also, why the flip on the answers-

Master Ruck wrote:
it seems like he's trying to make two correct answers look wrong and prevent town from getting powers.
Thinking about it more, the answers should be right. The two confirmed town having 1 or 2 of these answers (armix and animorph) make me think that something happened on my side to prevent the answers from going through.

-when someone proves it wrong?

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sirdanilot wrote:
Guess what jahudo, you can't know if your answers where right or wrong. Before you call me a pot calling the kettle black (or how did it go), yes I said that 1B is right, but that's just what I think it is. Sorry for that.
Yeah I was reading things wrong in my role pm.

I'm really, really annoyed about people not reading things correctly right now. If there's anything else you haven't read properly, please say it now.

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Mod:Prod Natirasha please

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Last post is Mon Jan, 2009 8:09 pm

*twiddles thumbs* Where did everyone go?

Mod: Massprod please, I don't really want this game to be abandoned.

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Okay, I'll help you out here.

I traded an answer to Nat first day. When Night came I cheated off of DGB and found not only a few answers (as well as #7) but my own as well (I'm not revealing it).

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N1.

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Okay, I'll help you out here.

I traded an answer to Nat first day. When Night came I cheated off of DGB and found not only a few answers (as well as #7) but my own as well (I'm not revealing it).

Still not seeing it.

/obviously dense

/facepalm I can't explain it you any simpler then that. Could someone else put it in clearer words?

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@UROE: You won't have a single clue what is happening until you read it all. P.S: It's only 15 pages, it shouldn't be hard.

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No, 7 is a lie. I'm confirming it /facepalm.

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EBWOP: As, in, #7 that Nat gave was wrong.

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3rd /facepalm WE'VE JUST DISSCUSSED THIS ON PAGE 12 ALREADY!!! Has everyone forgot about this game?

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People:

Master Ruck - Dattebayo seemed pretty scummy to me, but I'm not sure on this, don't have a good read on Ruck yet, I will probably re-read him soon.
Jahudo - My #1 pick for town at the moment.
sirdanilot - Pretty scummy, not much reason to re-read though, I think s/he has had some pro-town posts and ideas, but not sure about the total of all of his/her posts.
DrippingGoofball - Seems town, not really done anything big that makes me think that he would be scum, but I never seem to get a good read on DGB (Reading games, I think this is the first game where DGB and I have both been playing at the same time.).
UnofficialRulerOfEveryone - Town, obv.
GhostWriter - Not got a good read on GW, I will probably re-read him soon.
malthusis - Fairly pro-town, not much reason for me to be suspicious of him right now.
Axelrod - My top pick for scum, I will re-read him soon.

For people you put as scummy/pro-town could you put reasons why?

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For the record, did anyone cheat off Nat day 1? Was it successful?

I swear someone said they had (I haven't re-read lately) but I didn't cheat off Nat.

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Sorry. I had it in my head that today was the 24th so I thought you had been gone for 4 days. GW still needs a prod though. We also need to stop faffing about with matters that bring the game to a complete halt if one person doesn't say anything. We have 9 days until deadline, so we need to start scum hunting again. My vote is staying on Jahudo for now, but I'll do a brief reread soon and see if anything changes.

The point though, Ruck, is that nothing's going to change unless some miarcle is going to happen. I know this is not fair UROE, but I still want to lynch Nat right now. I'm not moving my vote right now. I can't seem to find any case that's more scummy then nat's. My vote stands.

Mod: Maybe we should have a massprod to get things going?

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Mod: can you use the almighty prodstick to get this through?

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Why do you want me dead so bad, malthusis?

You have really given me no alternatives to look at. I've been waiting for you to give me some other meaningful case to look at (and provide evidence), but you've sort of been procrastinating on it and I haven't seen much out of you. If you give me a good case to look at, I'll happily back off. Otherwise, I really don't see much evidence to convict you for Nat's crimes.

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I didn't see that one coming..........

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I really felt I would've won this had I not been killed by the Mafia (Arrgh)