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[ZZZX]

VOTE: bbmola

Hey hey, been a while

Why did you roll scum this game?

[ZZZX]

Hey everyone, looking forward to this game

I'm just disproving the greeting the game tell don't mind me

No RVS vote?

VOTE: furtiveglance

[ZZZX]

Hey everyone, looking forward to this game

I'm just disproving the greeting the game tell don't mind me

No RVS vote?

VOTE: furtiveglance

You found the other gamestart tell that I am living disproof of.

Its less of a tell and more of a... boring decision. But sure.

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You guys should read all 1100 chapters of One Piece, it is good

To be honest I wana jump on Psyc but I have a better idea

Bbmolla probably right

VOTE: Flavor

I trust Flavor, so I will sheep him

Baa

VOTE: Flavor

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not willing to vote Flavor Leaf yet as we need some more discussion

also flavor leaf self-voted for some arcane reason

Arcane is another very good show on Netflix that I highly recommend. Characters from the League of Legends universe in a great multi pov story

I play league (yes I am that broken), but I haven't watched arcane yet. Probably should watch it.

I still don't like Psych too much

And that is true, quoting sometimes does weird things

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Apologies, I got a bit busier than I expected. Catching up now in a few minutes.

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Thirty pages... Ok it might take a bit longer than planned, I will try to not spam an entire page with notes

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Pages ¬10:

Not much which is interesting actually, I think that Flavor is lean town, in a sense. Temporal feels a bit weird with the reads, even though his reads mostly as similar to mine Psyco feels very weird, but I am not sure if he is not town, or if that shis meta, I need to see his other games. Reading on, I can spam more to satisfy you Jack soon, I am taking this game in short bursts lol.

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Can you guys not post an entire page while I am trying to catch up xD

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Page 13, I give up on reading the moment I saw 1 more page pop in

I will iso one player or two now (except the big 3 with 5000 posts)

who should I iso first? Taking suggestions

[ZZZX]

22 pages overnight??? y'all are crazy I'm not reading any of that

If you ISO everyone but FL/TL/JV, it cuts out a lot. Then just ISO the three of them together.

Good idea as well actually

[ZZZX]

I feel I’ve used a similar reasoning to that before this game, if not multiple times, but yeah, i don’t see that post as a slip.

Looks more like a discrediting technique.

Oops

I am honestly more used to seeing you with that avatar haha.

Also I would like to iso you but you probably have a billion posts and you are probably town so I can't give a shit to do so right now

[ZZZX]

Page 13, I give up on reading the moment I saw 1 more page pop in

I will iso one player or two now (except the big 3 with 5000 posts)

who should I iso first? Taking suggestions

Shrek and iavh

Sure, give me a few

[ZZZX]

VOTE: Random Nurse

didnt even THANK me when i signed up for this game when it really needed players what the hey hey is up with that

Listen—I was on a mission.

No time for pleasantries along the way.

But yeah thanks for coming. I was the first to /in and got tired of waiting for months and months.

this is what i wanted btw

nurse town

Might be a meta read? No clue. But it felt forced

Was going to RVS BBmolla- do you remember me? I recall you back in the day lol

But

Holy fuck Psyche. That’s too much lol.

VOTE: Psyche

more people need to talk about this because this low effort opener transitioning into an immediate switch onto another big wagon is a bad look

I felt that he is really sticking to one guy there, his previous posts looked at him, and this felt very nitpicky with how 'serious' his tone seemd

another lead rist, this one was formed by skimming ISOs:

[Town]

Shrek - Very good town momentum
Klazam - Excellent posts after the two opening posts
Merlyn - Somewhat townie posts
JacksonVirgo - Good at pushing
BBmolla - Really hasty claim that is unlikely to be scum
Naerys - Towny vibes, I think
ZZZX - Somewhat towny vibes
Random Nurse - Slightly towny vibes
camelCasedSnivy - hard to sort, very weak townlean
the worst - lorem ipsum
davesaz - good at blending in
Save The Dragons - hard null
shaddowez - lack of content
Anyone not specifically listed - hard null due to lack of content
Flavor Leaf - impossible to sort
iamveryhappy - what
Hu Tao- eh idk, hard to sort but weak scumlean
biancospino - very performative
furtiveglance - still scummy vibes here
Psyche - gonna go back to my gut feeling of Psyche being scum, the posts don't have town mindset anymore

[Scum]

why is zzzx so high, his iso is like flat nothing and he was part of the sheep group on the FL wagon

obviously its a goated list because i'm top but you and i have like barely interacted TL

I mean, I have some bias obv since he is mentioning me, but my iso at that point was completely barren, bar a joke vote on FL, that he is saying is a sheep group (Well, I did sheep FL), and it feels.. off? Like he is trying to get some 'reads' out just because, not because he has a read on mind. but maybe I am just having too much bias

[town]
BBmolla - i dont think theyve acted the most townie out of EVERYONE but they claimed and the rest is more a gut read
JV - similar lines of thought to me which is always a good thing, and i dont think scum would willingly get into a kerfuffle over an easily avoidable argument d1
ducky - 434 443 and 457 are a very good line of thought in particular which is enough to move it from lean to read. also hi do you remember me from survivor legendary

[townlean]
RN - i mean he thanked me. what more do you want (mostly just gut read)
TL - confused townie probably. i initially thought they were someone who wasnt earnestly trying to sort but the whole fight earlier changed my view
naerys - early game good vibes ig. i liked 173 but i need to see more from both her and merlyn
merlyn - basically same, drives discussion in a positive direction
STD - not anything solid but i agree with the reads they posted
flavor - i SR their wagon more than i TR them. LHF

[null]
david - no content but i like the impression of iavh dislike the impression of flavor
bianco - appeared early and had some decent posts then disappeared
hard null - anyone here i forgot or didnt mention
furtive - had an early wagon and kind of disappeared, hasn't been driving any real discussion

[conditional scum/mild scumlean]
psyche - like... the least likely to be scum out of my SRs, but klaz voting him and then immediately jumping off to sheep the next big wagon was weird
hu tao - basically my zzzx read but has slightly more content
zzzx - has a nothing ISO and sheeped onto FL


[scum]
klaz - bad opening and i don't really see what redeemed them so much as much as other people apparently do.
iavh - weird opening into disappearing when confronted

"i SR their wagon more than i TR them."

on what green earth does this mean i sr FLAVOR more than i tr him

i SR hu tao, zzzx and klazam, all of whom were sheeping the flavor wagon

Well, look up, at least I feel a bit better because his arguement is basically 'voted FL' which makes no sense.

813 is actually really thoughtful from klazam. i might have been tunneled on that in retrospect

VOTE: IAVH

i dont like the immediate BBmolla wagon but i must not be seeing what everyone else is in 847

What are your thoughts on camel

very low substance and kinda low post count so i can’t really form an opinion on them yet. i don’t like the immediate jump to BBmolla compared to their delayed reactions to other game phenomenae, it feels a little like a ‘gotcha’ to me. low end of null

And here is why it clicks to me, his opinion here is a 'no opinion', although its a fully matching read as the 3 he read as scum (he jumped on a wagon, and low content), but not much else.

Leaning scum here, if he or camel flip scum, the other is very likely scum.

[ZZZX]

Page 13, I give up on reading the moment I saw 1 more page pop in

I will iso one player or two now (except the big 3 with 5000 posts)

who should I iso first? Taking suggestions

Shrek and iavh

Sure, give me a few

tbh I have nothing in my iso lol
I got bonked on the head and have been posting sporadically, that's all you need to know

Well he, indeed, had nothing in his iso

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Page 13, I give up on reading the moment I saw 1 more page pop in

I will iso one player or two now (except the big 3 with 5000 posts)

who should I iso first? Taking suggestions

ISO me

VOTE: Jackson

I am not voting you because you are scum

I am voting you because I feel upset looking at your votes count

Actually thou, let me park my vote somewhere, since I just read shrek,

VOTE: Shrek

I will most likely move it as soon as I find a better place to put it, but lets say that this works for now. I am too tired to keep going

[ZZZX]

Page 13, I give up on reading the moment I saw 1 more page pop in

I will iso one player or two now (except the big 3 with 5000 posts)

who should I iso first? Taking suggestions

Shrek and iavh

Sure, give me a few

tbh I have nothing in my iso lol
I got bonked on the head and have been posting sporadically, that's all you need to know

Well he, indeed, had nothing in his iso

Curious exchange, i might be seeing stuff that isnt here but something feels off

It is more curious you found it curious

I was told to iso him, he said he had nothing in his iso, and his 5 posts indeed, were nothing.

[ZZZX]

Iso-ing Naerys because why not

UNVOTE: Shrek
VOTE: Klazam

Just a naked vote?

Alright, so I'm at work again and will post as able soon.

Also, I'm 2-Shot Bulletproof (don't b*tch to me).

Awaiting to see how Scum respond to the news.

Bulletproof again? Lel

Just commenting on it on the side, and nothing actually?

Well the few posts of his seem lack content, feels like he pops with "look i am still here" and disappears again

It... really feels thats what you are doing as well, in fact out of your posts I didn't find much content either, and this last post felt like 'here is something I will comment on but clearly I didnt read the last page'. Lazy town or just scum not wanting to really bother?

Lean scum for now, and I am also happy to move my vote here for now

VOTE: Naerys

That last post reaaally pinged my attention

[ZZZX]

Just ISO'd bbmolla, nothing really worth noting. his push on FL seems fair, I personally think FL seems more townish, but to be honest its a purely gut read, and I am more suspect of people hard town reading him already at that point.

[ZZZX]

Page 13, I give up on reading the moment I saw 1 more page pop in

I will iso one player or two now (except the big 3 with 5000 posts)

who should I iso first? Taking suggestions

Shrek and iavh

Sure, give me a few

tbh I have nothing in my iso lol
I got bonked on the head and have been posting sporadically, that's all you need to know

Well he, indeed, had nothing in his iso

Curious exchange, i might be seeing stuff that isnt here but something feels off

It is more curious you found it curious

I was told to iso him, he said he had nothing in his iso, and his 5 posts indeed, were nothing.

Is furtive your scum buddy?

I am not sure which I am more curious about,

How you've come to that conclusion,

Or how my reply to iavh is the post you quote to post that

I like it either way, I think my vote is in a good spot for now indeed

[ZZZX]

You know, I almost felt bad for spamming, then i saw I have 20 posts compared to the 200+ a few people have, maybe I am simply

not

spamming hard enough.

[ZZZX]

UNVOTE: Klazam
VOTE: ZZZX

Bit touchy at a slight nudging, dont you think?

I didn't vote you for nudging me, Shrek did it harder and more clearly

I am voting you because you are pretending to be having content, calling people for doing that, then ignoring it when you get called out.

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But sure, you can call it an OMGUS indirectly, I dig it

[ZZZX]

I am not pretending having content,LOL, i literally said that i believe one scum is on FL wagon. And voting is great tool of getting reactions

Fine, let me correct myself:

I am voting you because it

feels

like you are 'pretending' to have content.

Better?

[ZZZX]

Feel free to check my other games, i will never be capable of elaborate posts with insane length, but i am expressing my thoughts even if the cost is being suspected of being scum.

Sure, I will take a look in a few days.

Also, this wagon probably have a better chance of having something come out of it since many fans are around, so I will jump back

VOTE: Shrek

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i feel it has no merit other than 'hard to read' and 'flavor fever'

Its a mix of, people who know you well wouldn't blindly town-read you on the beginning, as its very NAI in general, and I feel he gut-read it to be scum, so I feel its fair (read: Not necessarily a scum trying to force a vote or a push) move.

[ZZZX]

i feel it has no merit other than 'hard to read' and 'flavor fever'

Its a mix of, people who know you well wouldn't blindly town-read you on the beginning, as its very NAI in general, and I feel he gut-read it to be scum, so I feel its fair (read: Not necessarily a scum trying to force a vote or a push) move.

i think it's just super easy and a coast tactic

I mean, to be fair, that is true.

I just think its NAI

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how exactly is Shrek scum?!

880 feels like a thoughtful post to me

you can have thoughtful posts as scum. when im scum, im more thoughtful.

it's more agenda based and where they chose to push that has me feeling they were scum, and the types of reads they were having.

Also an overall reminder, while

yes

, Scum won't hunt as much, this is multi-ball iirc, which means that scum can scum-hunt without faking it, since there is an entire faction out there

[ZZZX]

i feel it has no merit other than 'hard to read' and 'flavor fever'

Its a mix of, people who know you well wouldn't blindly town-read you on the beginning, as its very NAI in general, and I feel he gut-read it to be scum, so I feel its fair (read: Not necessarily a scum trying to force a vote or a push) move.

i think it's just super easy and a coast tactic

I mean, to be fair, that is true.

I just think its NAI

sure, but being NAI too much is AI as the game goes on.

So I dont really like that defense from you, but it's noted.

I mean, I agree normally, but I wouldn't say its AI for his early votes/etc.

But fair.

To be fair this game exploded with content, I went away for one day and it went from 6 pages to 40.

And I am actually curious about you saying I am defending BB, I am starting to suspect you a bit, because you asked me about the reasoning, and I merely answered and explained my reasoning You being very critical of that is making me curious. Especially when my read was a basically 'null, and I have nothing standing out'

Talk to me, so I can actually read you

p-edit, Would Town you try to make a mountain out of nothing? I might need to ISO you actually

but there are like a few hundred posts in there

bah

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in fact, I don't think I've gotten free town read at all this game.

The town reads I've gotten, I've earned through interacting with players and showing my thought process on different slots throughout the day.

In addition to this, I already had ZZZx in my lower tiers of reads, and weakening my spot makes a lot of sense from a scum ZZZx pov.

Ok, If you know me, you know there is one thing I scum hunt with, and one thing I hate more than everything,

Bullshit.

And this post, smells very very badly of that.

I don't particularly care if you scum read me or not, but if you are town, then show me your thought process here, or I am starting to believe this is indeed scum Flavor.

[ZZZX]

which means that scum can scum-hunt without faking it, since there is an entire faction out there

this is also a crutch as the game goes on too, because it's easy to look for one faction, but when they have to start analyzing which faction, scum can get caught up in pretty easily. And I think this is pretty easy to place as it goes on with some flips.

While this is true, I also see this as an easy reason to deny players from getting town read who are scum hunting.

In addition, I don't necessarily believe the idea that scum wont hunt as much, and I don't really get what prompted that idea.

I feel you're reaching and trying to defend BBm, but I don't get how that applies to it. I feel like you're trying to pocket them

Ok to be honest at this point it sounds like I might fart and you would say I am doing it to defend BBM and pocket them when I mentioned them in one post initially calling them null

Ok, I don't even know if this is scum Flavor, sounds too dumb to be true.

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And instead of interacting with that post, and replying to anything of merit with it, you just quoted it and said it reeked of BS.

So explain, ZZZx, what is the bs part about it?

I never mentioned weakening the read on you, or to be fair, the read on you at all (outside of saying his vote in the RVS stage was fair), and then you started going very defensive, saying how you built any positive reads by yourself, and how I am pushing that down, as scum-me would do.

Yet I didn't.

Either quote where I said that, or show how you came to that conclusion, or the other logical conclusion is that you are bullshitting a read to scum-read me because I could read you, or some other reason.

To be honest I don't even know a good reason scum you would push for that now

[ZZZX]

in fact, I don't think I've gotten free town read at all this game.

The town reads I've gotten, I've earned through interacting with players and showing my thought process on different slots throughout the day.

In addition to this, I already had ZZZx in my lower tiers of reads, and weakening my spot makes a lot of sense from a scum ZZZx pov.

Ok, If you know me, you know there is one thing I scum hunt with, and one thing I hate more than everything,

Bullshit.

And this post, smells very very badly of that.

I don't particularly care if you scum read me or not, but if you are town, then show me your thought process here, or I am starting to believe this is indeed scum Flavor.

like this all just looks like false bravado.

I have been showing thought process.

It does look like you care if you are scum read.

And it looks like youre trying to threaten now because I'm putting pressure on you.

I have put my point, very,

VERY

clearly.

And you keep evading it, and talking about false bravado, when you know me and how I play, in an attempt to discredit me.

I am

not

afraid, good pal I am more than happy to have more pressure on me to move the game along, and to find the scum, and I am beginning to suspect I might. Because your blind insistence here just makes no sense otherwise.

VOTE: Flavor

p-edit I will reply in a seperate post

[ZZZX]

Explain the BS about it.

And instead of interacting with that post, and replying to anything of merit with it, you just quoted it and said it reeked of BS.

So explain, ZZZx, what is the bs part about it?

I never mentioned weakening the read on you, or to be fair, the read on you at all (outside of saying his vote in the RVS stage was fair), and then you started going very defensive, saying how you built any positive reads by yourself, and how I am pushing that down, as scum-me would do.

Yet I didn't.

Either quote where I said that, or show how you came to that conclusion, or the other logical conclusion is that you are bullshitting a read to scum-read me because I could read you, or some other reason.

To be honest I don't even know a good reason scum you would push for that now

[ZZZX]

which means that scum can scum-hunt without faking it, since there is an entire faction out there

this is also a crutch as the game goes on too, because it's easy to look for one faction, but when they have to start analyzing which faction, scum can get caught up in pretty easily. And I think this is pretty easy to place as it goes on with some flips.

While this is true, I also see this as an easy reason to deny players from getting town read who are scum hunting.

In addition, I don't necessarily believe the idea that scum wont hunt as much, and I don't really get what prompted that idea.

I feel you're reaching and trying to defend BBm, but I don't get how that applies to it. I feel like you're trying to pocket them

Ok to be honest

at this point

it sounds like I might fart and you would say I am doing it to defend BBM and pocket them when I mentioned them in one post initially calling them null

Ok, I don't even know if this is scum Flavor, sounds too dumb to be true.

what do you mean 'at this point'? I only started pressuring you like on this page, and you're acting like it's been nonstop.

This is part of the game to pressure people, and you immediately start going to discredit attempts. Why am I supposed to see that as townie? Explain.

There is a difference between Town pressuring, and someone trying to find an excuse to 'pressure' someone, which is full of bullshit, that's all

I do not care how you see me, I am currently engaging with you to read you.

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it looks like you're trying to stop any analysis on the BBm from happening. It's one thing to defend, but I think you're protecting them, and it has scum potential from you who wants a possible unaligned scum or BBm to keep pressure on me that way.

Explain how I got to this conclusion?

It's really not that deep, ZZZx, lol.

It looks like you're trying to stop any analysis on BBm from happening. That is the thesis and the conclusion.

The posts you made leading up to that are the ones that lead me to that.

I don't know what you're expecting/trying to get from that.

If you think this is cap, idk what to tell you.

i think it's incredibly valid and genuine line of questioning, you just look upset that you could possibly get slightly questioned.

I wasn't even saying you were hard scum or anything, I don't really get like more than 60% confidence on any reads on Day 1 ever, yet you're acting like I called you lock scum for possibly questioning you could be scum.

Everyone here could be scum, it's Day 1, and I've town read scum hard on Day 1 before even, why should you get some free pass for questioning?

Ok, let me take this veeery slowly because I am getting a little annoyed.

You say:

'The posts you made leading up to that are the ones that lead me to that.'

Quote those posts.

And show me.

Because 'those posts' do not FUCKING exist.

Its not even about whos town or mafia at this point, let me ISO myself, because I am starting to have doubts if I have fucking dementia lol

[ZZZX]

Explain the BS about it.

And instead of interacting with that post, and replying to anything of merit with it, you just quoted it and said it reeked of BS.

So explain, ZZZx, what is the bs part about it?

I never mentioned weakening the read on you, or to be fair, the read on you at all (outside of saying his vote in the RVS stage was fair), and then you started going very defensive, saying how you built any positive reads by yourself, and how I am pushing that down, as scum-me would do.

Yet I didn't.

Either quote where I said that, or show how you came to that conclusion, or the other logical conclusion is that you are bullshitting a read to scum-read me because I could read you, or some other reason.

To be honest I don't even know a good reason scum you would push for that now

Why would you mention weakening the read on you?

It's a by action thing.

Which is 100% valid.

You just seem like you haven't developed the skill to accept any type of pressure on you.

It's annoyingly a common thing.

Its because its what you mentioned in your post, Lol.

And yes, I am indeed not the best in-life in general when pressure is on me,

however,

I do not think that is the case here

And I do not see why it is 'annoying', if you are town scum-hunting, you should more

happy

that I am exposing myself more. No?

[ZZZX]

Like sorry, this is on you. Everything is there, and my thoughts and reads are completely valid.

You seem to get way too worked up over 1 person questioning your line of thought.

I have made it clear all game I do not think BBm is townie. They could be town sure, but I do not agree they are town, so you overreacting to me questioning why I don't like your town read or NAI push on BBm and how it's enabling them to keep doing it, I don't see what part of that you don't understand.

So if you wanna continue, so be it.

Your logic is flawed.

No, I am annoyed that you have constructed every post I did into me defending, enabling BBM, when out of many random posts I did, It was one of the reads, with ONE line of text explaining that I find it null.

If you told me you hated me reading him null, sure, I'd be like, I disagree, but fair.

But me reading him null is

defending him?

Me replying to your question regarding why he is null, (or why I think his vote was fair, in other words, null and not scum-indicative) is defending him, and my posts have showed that, despite you refusing to quote and show me how?

Lets be real here for a moment.

To be honest I dont know if you are scum or not, I will jump back to the wagon which matters more right now
VOTE: shrek

[ZZZX]

I think you just derp tunneled really

To be fair, its two-sided, but I agree. Maybe I will re-read my own posts and yours tomorrow morning, I am getting tired.

As for the emotions part, I like to play with my emotions running, people speak out when emotions are involved, people show ideas, thoughts, and information they wouldn't otherwise, Reads can be faked, and so can emotions to be fair, but its easier to find someone faking those.

Purely logical play is boring, doesn't work as well for scum hunting, and just repeating, but is simply not fun

[ZZZX]

It also looks like you have a huge tendency to assume and project, and yet you still need things to be exactly concise and perfect, and that's just not my vibe.

I'm going to question people. I'm going to pressure people. I'll pressure people I'm town because it's important to reconsider over time and look at things from different perspectives.

Post game, i'll be validated anyways.

I will assume and project, and I will be clear it is so, but if I ever say something concise, I expect to have a concise reason and showing for it.

I never told you to not question or pressure people, me included. I don't see how you came to that conclusion? Or do you not like me questioning your questioning?

[ZZZX]

Anyway, I will be off in a minutes, its getting late, I am getting tired, and my bed is calling out to me

[ZZZX]

Like sorry, this is on you. Everything is there, and my thoughts and reads are completely valid.

You seem to get way too worked up over 1 person questioning your line of thought.

I have made it clear all game I do not think BBm is townie. They could be town sure, but I do not agree they are town, so you overreacting to me questioning why I don't like your town read or NAI push on BBm and how it's enabling them to keep doing it, I don't see what part of that you don't understand.

So if you wanna continue, so be it.

Your logic is flawed.

No, I am annoyed that you have constructed every post I did into me defending, enabling BBM, when out of many random posts I did, It was one of the reads, with ONE line of text explaining that I find it null.

If you told me you hated me reading him null, sure, I'd be like, I disagree, but fair.

But me reading him null is

defending him?

Me replying to your question regarding why he is null, (or why I think his vote was fair, in other words, null and not scum-indicative) is defending him, and my posts have showed that, despite you refusing to quote and show me how?

Lets be real here for a moment.

To be honest I dont know if you are scum or not, I will jump back to the wagon which matters more right now
VOTE: shrek

I didn't construct every post you did, I constructed the posts we were LITERALLY talking about BBM over it too, which you were.

That's not even up for debate. You didn't agree with my scum read, and you tried to push them as NAI.

That is 100% you defending them and advocating for them against my scum read.

There were like 2 or 3 posts that I quoted we were talking about it.

Idgaf about town or scum reads. It's the energy or momentum behind it.

Fact of the matter is, you NAI/Null pushed my scum possibility of BBM. I'm not even saying BBm is always scum here. But I don't agree with the enabling of letting them coast for doing very little but derp tunnel.

So yes, you were defending them against my possible scum push. That is an absolute fact. I don't care at all if you weren't calling them town.

It is specifically the NAI/Null push of it that I see as defending them against me that I didn't like.

I don't even know what your reads up, my posts clearly mentioned I am ISOing a few people, I have no idea what the game state is, because somehow 35 pages came whiel I was away, and I made that clear.

And somehow me coming to a slightly different conclusion than you was defending him.

Yea. No.

Anyway, we can argue about that forever, BBmola is someone I have no read on, he can be town, scum, a jester for all I care, that's not a hill I am dying on

You

however are acting weird here with the read and reaction, and I think the whole argument makes no sense and is unfounded.

that

is a hill I am willing to die on.

It is not about someone voting me, or pushing me, its because I completely disagree and do not comprehend the logic, that's all

But I will sleep now, so good night and talk to you later

[ZZZX]

I think you need to reanalyze it all, ZZZx, and realize why I think you were defending them with the Null/NAI post.

You do not have to town read push someone to be possibly defending them.

You were actively discrediting my push by pushing a NAI/Null read to nullify my reasonings for why I would have them as possible scum.

That IS defending them.

And if you can't see that, it is on you at this point.

replying to the p-edit since I saw it, I can get the logic behind it a bit more, but reality is this:

I don't do my reads caring about what others reads are, If I think someone is town, null, scum, I will say it, and if someone spins it as me defending them by showing what I think, that's on them and not me, Especially when its a read I am not even aware off because I made it very clear I didnt catch up to the game.


Thats all

[ZZZX]

ZZZ and happy both voting Shrek here on P38 is an awful look. I don't even remotely understand why they're scummy and the wagon is being jumped on like there's free money on his slot

Fine, another p-edit

Did nothing in my ISO read click? Or do you disagree with my read in it?

To be fair its a light wagon since I have nothing else better to do, and its good to push for information anyway

[ZZZX]

I will be VLA for the next two days, three potentially, will still try to skim and keep up. Probably will do so tomorrow morning..

I am extremely swamped with work, brother coming to visit me tomorrow, and a few more things so I will not have as much time to argue with Flavor (or do much else) those few days

[ZZZX]

I go VLA for two days and there is a big wagon on my head, and 87 pages. Smh

And I barely read this page and people are still talking about the BBmolla read

For shame people

Anyway i am going to work now. Maybe after work ill skim the last 10 pages and aee what's up

[ZZZX]

Skimmed the last 10 pages,

I have nothing to say really, No votes here are founded, at best its Flavor's bs, where he very gently decided to slowly lean to it, but sure. And people who had a "strong/decent town read on me flipflopping now that a wagon is forming, yes I am looking at you for example Temporal. And Honestly? I am not gonna even bother defending myself because there is nothing to defend myself on.

Temporal is scum,
Flavor is scum,

Random nurse is prob town
furtive is prob town

No strong reads other than that

I am vanilla

VOTE: ZZZX

Lets get this moving

Elim me, and when I flip town elim Flavor, and if anyone seems very opportunistic after this post on it, elim them after I flip town and Flavor flips scum, cus they can just be the other faction.

Lets go

EDIT: Holy. Bad habits die hard, almost submitted with a few... L words in here.

[ZZZX]

is it common for people to believe that these "last will and testament" posts are ever influential after the player making them dies

Well, whether people follow it or not, I like to believe I did my due diligence, such as that if the game is lost because everyone sheeped those who I said are mafia, I can have that bit of self satisfaction that I

told you so

[ZZZX]

...

VOTE: ZZZX

Do you think ZZZX's post is scummy despite the self-vote?

The self-vote makes that post unsortable imo

To me when a player self-votes it's usually Scum doing this. Town has no valid reason for self-voting. Scum does.

Sue me

It is a NAI, at most a meta read for specific players, but I mean, go for it.

[ZZZX]

Is it common for someone to just be almost entirely negative throughout the entire game?

How so?

[ZZZX]

is it common for people to believe that these "last will and testament" posts are ever influential after the player making them dies

Well, whether people follow it or not, I like to believe I did my due diligence, such as that if the game is lost because everyone sheeped those who I said are mafia, I can have that bit of self satisfaction that I

told you so

i don't know how you can think you did your due diligence while going out of your way to facilitate a supposed mislim
even re: self-satisfaction, can't imagine that your self satisfaction in this scenario would not be better maximized if you were limmed with your vote actually on scum
but all this is beside the question of whether you're actually town i guess
zzzzzzz

Look, I am not great at defending myself,

especially

if there is nothing to defend myself from, and knowing that I have no influence over the game, I do this when it needs to be done.

Either I:

a- Survive

b- I get Elim'd, and maybe it changes one person's mind when they see me flip town, to start voting one of the people I said to vote. That one vote is one more than none.

I am not the best at scum hunting, nor am I the best at just manipulation or whatnot, What I

am

good at, is taking a shot, gambiting it all, and enjoying the showing

[ZZZX]

is it common for people to believe that these "last will and testament" posts are ever influential after the player making them dies

Well, whether people follow it or not, I like to believe I did my due diligence, such as that if the game is lost because everyone sheeped those who I said are mafia, I can have that bit of self satisfaction that I

told you so

What do you think of hu tao

I can't remember, let me ISO them real fast

[ZZZX]

iamveryhappy (6): Shrek, furtiveglance, JacksonVirgo, Flavor Leaf, TemporalLich, pisskop
ZZZX (5): Save the Dragons, Naerys, Cat Scratch Fever, the worst, Hu Tao

here's the thing, i like STD going here, Naerys makes sense based on them wanting to go on early Flavor voters, the other 3 look like they're taking advantage of that and have higher equity of trying to save Iamvh.

I don't think all 3 are scum, but I could see Hu Tao as one scum, and then CSF or the W as another trying to save partner iamvh.

In a game this size, is it optimal to try and save your partner early? Seems not worth being tied to them. I could be wrong though, my first game of this size

Yeah. It's worth remembering as well that scum can be voting the other scumteam.

WAIT THERE ARE TWO SCUM TEAMS IN THIS......OMG This game just became so much more interesting to me.

This message is interesting, but other than that, I don't have any hard feelings about Hu Tao, nothing of interest there, If I had a gun on my head and had to pick, I'd say its more likely to be town, but its basically null

[ZZZX]

VOTE: zzzx

E-2 now, let's get a flip

In a bit of a rush are we?

[ZZZX]

small dig into zzzx's meta around self-votes indicates plenty readiness to self-vote as town based on similar reasoning to the above, but also as scum presumably to deny information. so in isolation the self vote is NAI. coooool

Ah, so he does this as either alignment?

Debating if I should call his bluff and vote him.

In fact, I will.

VOTE: ZZZX

Not often, nor common. But I am willing to pull the trigger regardless. I hate clear meta tells or people who make it easy, I find it anti-fun.

So yes, self voting is NAI

Just be sure to take responsibility, because I know there is a 75% chance that people I put the ight on (cough cough Flavor) will just go like "Oh no! Anyway" and try to reason why information from a confirmed flipped town has no value. Been there, seen it

[ZZZX]

Hammer me, Elim Flavor tomorrow, and once he flips scum, Elim the people trying to speed run the wagon

My self vote isn't moving. Try me

[ZZZX]

im obv town even if you flip town, and in the dead thread, you'll see that.

Sure you are

[ZZZX]

I love you are already backpeddling lightly Flavor.

What are you waiting for? Hammer me, Elim Flavor tomorrow, lets get on with it

I am here for like 5 more minutes, then I have to leave back for work.

p-edit: Yea, "information", I am happy to get lim'd here, but lets not bullshit eachothers here with "information" when no information is there

[ZZZX]

Yes, Mr. I am not scum because people dont follow me unless I am scum.

Ironic isnt it.

[ZZZX]

I love you are already backpeddling lightly Flavor.

What are you waiting for? Hammer me, Elim Flavor tomorrow, lets get on with it

I am here for like 5 more minutes, then I have to leave back for work.

p-edit: Yea, "information", I am happy to get lim'd here, but lets not bullshit eachothers here with "information" when no information is there

there's plenty of information.

Well, indeed there is information about who I suspect are scum, which will be the only confirmed-town reads once I am out.

[ZZZX]

i had already been talking like that about your slot miles before you got wagoned like that.

I wasn't even the one starting your wagon, I just sheeped onto you.

I spent a lot of this day pushing the wagon against you in IAVH, and TL, and spent very little time pushing you, so youre just salty right now

The fact you sheeped into it, and been dancing around it is exactly why i think you are scum.

[ZZZX]

Anyway, no point wasting more of my time here, either hammer it or move along, call it false bravado, call it whatever, if I come back after work 5-6 hours later and see us still at this standstill I'd be disappointed.

Catch ya'll later.

And sure, your posts already imply you know I will flip town, funny innit.

Eh, have fun

[ZZZX]

Wow, None hammered and I am back to L-4? Almost tempts me to remove my own vote, which well, I might as well, I presented my head on a plate and it wasn't taken.

UNVOTE:

And yes, a few astitute people might say thats back pedaling, but I believe I have been clear in my goal and purpose, and wanting to survive is NAI I wanted to be elim'd either there and now or not at all, let me see what interesting stuff happened:

ZZX, what's with the certainty on FL?

Also, can more people unvote, I don't want to end the day yet (even though ZZX has kind of sealed their fate with the vanilla claim).

FL went from a strong town read, with a scum read on Flavor, then, while I am on V/LA, magically jumps on my wagon right after Flavor, their entire exchange was also weird when I was having my FL arguement saga

Also, if a vanilla claim si all that's needed to seal someone's fate, well, lets just say that people might be worse at this than I imagined.

Lets keep reading, a lot of exciting posts to comment on

[ZZZX]

UNVOTE:

You got on and off me really quicky, I assume its because of the actual threat to hammer that was told to be written out, interesting I suppose

[ZZZX]

in fact, I don't think I've gotten free town read at all this game.

The town reads I've gotten, I've earned through interacting with players and showing my thought process on different slots throughout the day.

In addition to this, I already had ZZZx in my lower tiers of reads, and weakening my spot makes a lot of sense from a scum ZZZx pov.

Ok, If you know me, you know there is one thing I scum hunt with, and one thing I hate more than everything,

Bullshit.

And this post, smells very very badly of that.

I don't particularly care if you scum read me or not, but if you are town, then show me your thought process here, or I am starting to believe this is indeed scum Flavor.

like this all just looks like false bravado.

I have been showing thought process.

It does look like you care if you are scum read.

And it looks like youre trying to threaten now because I'm putting pressure on you.

I have put my point, very,

VERY

clearly.

And you keep evading it, and talking about false bravado, when you know me and how I play, in an attempt to discredit me.

I am

not

afraid, good pal I am more than happy to have more pressure on me to move the game along, and to find the scum, and I am beginning to suspect I might. Because your blind insistence here just makes no sense otherwise.

VOTE: Flavor

p-edit I will reply in a seperate post

It kind of looks like the mutual scumreads here came about as a result of escalating measures, like reciprocally calling each other more and more scum. Could very well be T/T.

I can buy the early disagreement being a result of escalating measures,

I am not sure if I can buy the fact that now, he says its been the case since earlier, yet if our arguement, u hear him say how he is just pressuring, with no mention of iavh, which only comes out now (somehow)?, Where he earlier ends the arguement not even fully considering me as scum or whatnot, but then 2 days later after I go alone, it magically all turns.

That's why I have a strong read there now.

[ZZZX]

The other reason I want to extend this day is because I want to dump a massive readslist into the thread

Go for it, I bought you more enough with my unvote

[ZZZX]

^ this person is awesome and knows what they're talking about

I read them as town thou, why are they scum?

[ZZZX]

UNVOTE:

You got on and off me really quicky, I assume its because of the actual threat to hammer that was told to be written out, interesting I suppose

Nah lowkey wanted to bait Psyche to vote so i can hammer

I respect that

[ZZZX]

can someone please tell me why i should go on zzzx

Happy Scumday!

Thats the fun part, you

shouldn't

, yet you(or others) might anyway because its the cool thing nowadays

[ZZZX]

wow three votes on cat. idk i found that one meta post re: zzzx pretty telling

I am curious now, wasn't the conclusion that was my meta approach a bit NAI? Or do you see it elsehow?

[ZZZX]

2171 was just boiler plate self voting.

I dont TR the slot, and I mean yeah he was on v/la the last few days, but he wasnt so out there that he couldnt come and give us a speech about bravado.

Well despite popular opinions, I do enjoy not getting blown to pieces, as both alignments

[ZZZX]

As I understand it Scum would vote themselves to deny Town information. They can do it sooner than L-1 if they think their demise is evident.

ZZZX´s demise isnt evident tho. He should try harder to change our minds.

Change your minds

how

?

Half the reason I am self voting, which one of the players here (i forgot) even indirectly showed in my own post NINE YEARS AGO, is that THERE IS NO CASE ON ME. NONE. NADA. Self voting is not logical, but when the entire game is not built on logic anymore, you sometimes have to take action, for better or for worse.

I went through the last few pages until my patience ran out, and I couldn't see anything remotely logical, it is a fake jury where the crime and defence doesn't matter, a theatrical at play, I am not participating in the clownfest, and simply saying,

No.

Unless you have something you want to share as something I should change your mind in, I am not participating in a theatrical with no purpose.

[ZZZX]

I think his townreads were the most meaty part of his ISO

TR on random and furtive

P: It's a joke. But, it is a good question; why do you feel better not voting than voting right now?

I will have to admit my slots content is kinda trash

I am not good in reading large games normally, and less good when I spend half of that arguing with one person who tried to make up shit that I 'did', and the other half busy irl.

shrug

[ZZZX]

VOTE: ZZZX

About this vote:

Just ISO'd bbmolla, nothing really worth noting.

his push on FL seems fair

, I personally think FL seems more townish, but to be honest its a purely gut read, and I am more suspect of people hard town reading him already at that point.

When reading through, this jumped out. BBmolla's "push" on FL is really no more than a policy lim to eliminate the player that is hardest to read. Then when asked what made the push fair, ZZZX says it's fair because it could be a gutread, but it's unclear how that would make it "fair" or even a believable scumread. I also feel like he's hiding behind his BBmolla nullread a little bit to try and handwave away the sloppiness of this statement in 963

I was curious about the start of the wagon, and it is also about the bbmola's null read?

Did I miss something, or have I become inept at mafia in the last 4 years not playing that I do not see what the fuck those people are getting at? Lol

It is a bit ridiculous innit

[ZZZX]

wanna scratch the cat w/me?

Well, I am going through their ISO's right now, I did miss a lot in the game,

but yes, I might be intending to, and maybe you can make my life easier and sell me on it

[ZZZX]

VOTE: ZZZX

About this vote:

Just ISO'd bbmolla, nothing really worth noting.

his push on FL seems fair

, I personally think FL seems more townish, but to be honest its a purely gut read, and I am more suspect of people hard town reading him already at that point.

When reading through, this jumped out. BBmolla's "push" on FL is really no more than a policy lim to eliminate the player that is hardest to read. Then when asked what made the push fair, ZZZX says it's fair because it could be a gutread, but it's unclear how that would make it "fair" or even a believable scumread. I also feel like he's hiding behind his BBmolla nullread a little bit to try and handwave away the sloppiness of this statement in 963

I find it interesting that Cat 'caught up', yet still voted me based on me thinking BBMollas vote in RVS essentially is fine, or the fact that they had someone else as their strongest scum-read but still voted me, interesting but not clear

Zzz typed up a phone post then lost it

I don't think people interrogate their scumreads the same way. However I do think I wouldn't have asked the questions in 1495 or 1501 if JV weren't a scumread

For 1509, the first half of that is stuff that I think JV is doing if they are scum. I can see world's where that's not the case & JV truly mindmelded with flavor a lot, partly because there are a lot of people floating by this game & I wouldn't be super surprised if they flipped scum and the more active folks are town.

I caught up on the game to get baseline reads but forming more accurate reads usually involves seeing people post in real time

This I am curious about, between Cat's first post and this post, I have been on VLA, with no posts in between, in fact if I am not mistake, I went on VLA before their first post in the game, and I opened the context of that post and I didnt see anything, so I am happy to hear Cat's thoughts on this?

[ZZZX]

shyte. sorry

Been there :') I have to re-read each post of mine three times nowadays

And it still slips. Old habits i guess

[ZZZX]

It's a lynch we all can agree on, and if we run up 2 wagons we can force people to take sides.

Cat's reads just seem weird. I'd like to see them get in somebody's face

Have you seen my posts on hu tao

Are they disappearing into the nether bc they won't get traction for some reason

Well, for better or for worse Hu's posts are very... empty. Which makes it hard to either say they are town or not here.

That and people have a more fun and exciting toy to play with that actually squeaks (read: me), and people usually get bored on wagons that get no reactions, I could've probably did nothing and just posted twice or thrice and my wagon would've fizzled, but where is the fun in that?

[ZZZX]

VOTE: ZZZX

About this vote:

Just ISO'd bbmolla, nothing really worth noting.

his push on FL seems fair

, I personally think FL seems more townish, but to be honest its a purely gut read, and I am more suspect of people hard town reading him already at that point.

When reading through, this jumped out. BBmolla's "push" on FL is really no more than a policy lim to eliminate the player that is hardest to read. Then when asked what made the push fair, ZZZX says it's fair because it could be a gutread, but it's unclear how that would make it "fair" or even a believable scumread. I also feel like he's hiding behind his BBmolla nullread a little bit to try and handwave away the sloppiness of this statement in 963

I was curious about the start of the wagon, and it is also about the bbmola's null read?

Did I miss something, or have I become inept at mafia in the last 4 years not playing that I do not see what the fuck those people are getting at? Lol

It is a bit ridiculous innit

Bbmollas push on FL was a kind of policy push to elim the person that is most difficult to read

So when you said that push was fair, it seemed like making things up unless you really think that's fair which I kind of still doubt

I recall I explained that by

fair

, I am indicating that I do not think its a scum-reasoned vote. And I stand by that fact. And it obviously wasn't town-reasoned, and I found it interesting. thus me mentioned in that entire read that it is null (Read: No opinion, Read: Neither Scum nor Town)

Out of everything to say I am making up, I just feel that's like, something so ridiculious insignificant, not even meant to give me any credits (Am I trying to get more town credit by adding those three lines?) And I don't see any intent as scum to explain that. And people somehow get mixed up on how to explain that one line that they made up tens of reason to suspect me for it, I made it up, I am defending bbMolla (somehow?), I am trying to detract from Flavor's reads, and a few others.

[ZZZX]

This I am curious about, between Cat's first post and this post, I have been on VLA, with no posts in between, in fact if I am not mistake, I went on VLA before their first post in the game, and I opened the context of that post and I didnt see anything, so I am happy to hear Cat's thoughts on this?

I voted you because out of my initial scum leans, you already had a wagon on you

You know? Fair enough.

[ZZZX]

shyte. sorry

I just did it earlier this game, and have already had to retype at least two posts.

I

will

be banned for this in a week or two somehow, mark my words, despite my best intentions and attempts. It takes one day where I am more involved in the game and not re-reading my posts as thouroughly (since I usually post stream-of-thoughts)

shrug

[ZZZX]

Spoiler:

quote="Cat Scratch Fever" post_id=13910539 time=1694632082 user_id=33903]
Hu Tao, I think you've been playing up the newbie card a little bit as a reason to hold back. It reminds me of Blood over Utopia where you were in the background because the mechanics confused you

I'm obviously going to be biased but I dislike that vote on me

Hu Tao is scumreading me for a gutread, but felt the need to qualify it by saying they can't explain it 3 times

That reads unnatural to me because gut reads are typically something that can't be explained anyway, so why feel the need to say that 3 times?

This is such an unusual game for me

Blood over utopia has done a number on some of y'all lol

For some reason

, I think you could be scum. It's a gut feeling, your posts don't seem genuine

for some reason

. But

I'm not sure why

VOTE: CatScratchFever

Hu tao is so scummy lmao

Their scumread on me seems like starting from the conclusion and making things up after the fact

This is such an unusual game for me

Blood over utopia has done a number on some of y'all lol

For some reason, I think you could be scum. It's a gut feeling, your posts don't seem genuine for some reason. But I'm not sure why

VOTE: CatScratchFever

Which posts don't seem genuine? The one that was quoted here?

Just a few

Doesn't even bother quoting which ones

Really now

Hu tao is so scummy lmao

Their scumread on me seems like starting from the conclusion and making things up after the fact

Why can't I just be misguided town? The fact that you immediately think I'm scum is what's worse for you.

The reason why is in the second line of my post...

[/spoiler]my posts on Hu tao for easy reading
[/quote]


THanks, I will take a look.

Going out in a bit for dinner with a friend, and will proceed to read further when I am back in 2-3 hours

[ZZZX]

Yea.. sorry pissk, I tried to be sold on CSF because it would definitely make my life easier but I do think they are town.

Back to the drawing board

[ZZZX]

The little bell thing that notifies you when someone quotes your post (like PM notifications but for thread posts)

You can turn it off

I love it sfm

Great feature for sure

Idk why sm1 would turn it off haha

[ZZZX]

Lovely, now we moved from ZZZX is clearly scum to a few people going yeaaaa idk if hes scum but its best so we dont push someone else, might as well give more night actions to the scum instead!

Since when is it better to not push for information during the DAY, when the town has the most power, in a normal which is NOT role madness, and instead go for a mislim for... reasons?

And everyone who is on me went from me being clearly evil, like now how TL is going, to trying to logic around, trying to show why a mislim is still good, its fine really!

Anyone pushing for a lim that is clearly wrong, that they indicate they think is wrong, is either grossly misplaying or scum.

Anyway, I will check some other stuff and then hit the bed, Not much to add, I insist of my previous two reads and the reason is, read the last 2 pages.

[ZZZX]

I still like CSF as a vote but I'm willing to compromise. Anyone else scummy?

I don't see CSF as scum personally, Tried to read anyone's case on them but I don't see it.

[ZZZX]

ZZZX have you played with Flavor Leaf in the past?
If yes, how would you expect him to act differently if he were town here?

I did play significantly with Flavor, but its been years and years ago (5+?)

For one, I know Flavor wouldn't blindly push me on that, also town-Flavor is much less serious, much less uses bullshit about 'if I am scum then people follow me more', and generally is less aggressive and more, well, chaotic. Also town-Flavor has a very good (usually) record on reading me, which failing catastrophically here is another point.

BUT

Its been long enough that my meta read is unreliable, I will be the first to admit

[ZZZX]

ZZZX is 200% trying to discredit their own wagon

we finally have some hope of getting more signal out of this day

I have been very happy to interaction, argue, and answer questions. And yes, I am obvious discrediting my wagon, because it is built on bullshit and lies, and it is my hobby to dismantle those

[ZZZX]

I still like CSF as a vote but I'm willing to compromise. Anyone else scummy?

How do you feel about voting one of {Psyche, iamveryhappy}

iavh is scummy for coasting and blending in and having no meaningful content, while Psyche has been consistently scummy for the whole game

pedit: yeah I don't see how CSF is scum, sorry

I gave up reading Psyche, I need to read their prev games to understand, I have no idea.

I am up for an iavh lim or push to get content out

p-edit, yea what is deepwolf

[ZZZX]

ZZZX is 200% trying to discredit their own wagon

we finally have some hope of getting more signal out of this day

I have been very happy to interaction, argue, and answer questions. And yes, I am obvious discrediting my wagon, because it is built on bullshit and lies, and it is my hobby to dismantle those

how do you feel about voting either Psyche or iavh?

I would rather re-read psyche, look into their meta a bit, and then decide,

Willing to vote iavh

[ZZZX]

Well, I will leave my vote here, and be back in 10-15 minutes

VOTE: iavh

[ZZZX]

ZZZX have you played with Flavor Leaf in the past?
If yes, how would you expect him to act differently if he were town here?

I did play significantly with Flavor, but its been years and years ago (5+?)

For one, I know Flavor wouldn't blindly push me on that, also town-Flavor is much less serious, much less uses bullshit about 'if I am scum then people follow me more', and generally is less aggressive and more, well, chaotic. Also town-Flavor has a very good (usually) record on reading me, which failing catastrophically here is another point.

BUT

Its been long enough that my meta read is unreliable, I will be the first to admit

Do you think that town Flavor would argue that regardless of your alignment, you're the "optimal" flip today?

Honestly? Not a single clue. I would like to argue Town-Flavor wouldn't, but I have no confidence in so, and that would be a lie.

ZZZX have you played with Flavor Leaf in the past?
If yes, how would you expect him to act differently if he were town here?

I did play significantly with Flavor, but its been years and years ago (5+?)

For one, I know Flavor wouldn't blindly push me on that, also town-Flavor is much less serious, much less uses bullshit about 'if I am scum then people follow me more', and generally is less aggressive and more, well, chaotic. Also town-Flavor has a very good (usually) record on reading me, which failing catastrophically here is another point.

BUT

Its been long enough that my meta read is unreliable, I will be the first to admit

the main game i remember with you, that we talked about earlier, was me getting pocketed by ScumYou.

We did play multiple games together, and I played in games hosted by you and verse versa.

That game was just more memorable haha

[ZZZX]

Well, anyone has anything they want to ask me before I hit the bed?

[ZZZX]

Well, anyone has anything they want to ask me before I hit the bed?

Favourite ice cream flavour

Love a good salted Caramel if its proper, otherwise I like snickers or coffee ice cream. I also have a spot for everything mango, including icecream

[ZZZX]

Well, anyone has anything they want to ask me before I hit the bed?

Favourite ice cream flavour

Love a good salted Caramel if its proper, otherwise I like snickers or coffee ice cream. I also have a spot for everything mango, including icecream

not vanilla then

I, indeed, don't enjoy being vanilla in mafia It allows me more space to do dumb plays like this, but its boring otherwise

[ZZZX]

scum want claims

uh they also want mislims?

you have such a basic understanding of scum play if you think scum wanting a Vanilla Town misfade with no other claims in the game is better than scum causing more chaos and getting more claims.

If I were scum, I'd be rolling in this game abusing this playerlist.

Oh, do you mean getting town mislim'd, having 100+ pages which are impossible to read, having most events around a town player that was lim'd, then giving no real info isn't abusing the playerlist and causing chaos?

I mean, you are ambitious, thats somthing

[ZZZX]

Well, I guess nothing interesting is going up, I am hitting the bed now,

Have a good night wonderful people

[ZZZX]

scum want claims

uh they also want mislims?

you have such a basic understanding of scum play if you think scum wanting a Vanilla Town misfade with no other claims in the game is better than scum causing more chaos and getting more claims.

If I were scum, I'd be rolling in this game abusing this playerlist.

Oh, do you mean getting town mislim'd, having 100+ pages which are impossible to read, having most events around a town player that was lim'd, then giving no real info isn't abusing the playerlist and causing chaos?

I mean, you are ambitious, thats somthing

you weren't even the main wagon this day phase, you need to scope out more.

And if you're town, you need to look into my logic more because you're OMGUS tunneled since your bad semantics argument earlier in the game.

I was actively pushing the wagon that your counterwagon got pushed into and fighting for the wagon that wasn't your wagon earlier, but you seem to think you were my main focus, and i really didn't care about your slot the majority of this day phase

I mean, I was at E-1, for a while, and I was at E-3 the moment I went V/LA.

I didn't scum read you for my wagon, Cats was who started my wagon, and they started it for a reason just as dumb, and they would've been an easy way to divert to another wagon or get a free brownie points from a few peeps, but I dont see it f.e.

I saw you as scum, but I will re-read you, and I still stand by my argument yadda yadda but that is a pointless road to go through, that we can talk about post game later if there is ever a need, or ignore it.

But, today, is not the day for that. My bed is calling and I must answer

p-edit: If you are town and you think you are getting good at scum hunting, and I was half of your scum reads...

Well

It might be time to start worrying innit.

But I, at least as of this moment, still don't believe you are.

But I am happy to read up and be proven wrong. Lets see later

[ZZZX]

scum want claims

uh they also want mislims?

you have such a basic understanding of scum play if you think scum wanting a Vanilla Town misfade with no other claims in the game is better than scum causing more chaos and getting more claims.

If I were scum, I'd be rolling in this game abusing this playerlist.

Oh, do you mean getting town mislim'd, having 100+ pages which are impossible to read, having most events around a town player that was lim'd, then giving no real info isn't abusing the playerlist and causing chaos?

I mean, you are ambitious, thats somthing

you weren't even the main wagon this day phase, you need to scope out more.

And if you're town, you need to look into my logic more because you're OMGUS tunneled since your bad semantics argument earlier in the game.

I was actively pushing the wagon that your counterwagon got pushed into and fighting for the wagon that wasn't your wagon earlier, but you seem to think you were my main focus, and i really didn't care about your slot the majority of this day phase

I mean, I was at E-1, for a while, and I was at E-3 the moment I went V/LA.

I didn't scum read you for my wagon, Cats was who started my wagon, and they started it for a reason just as dumb, and they would've been an easy way to divert to another wagon or get a free brownie points from a few peeps, but I dont see it f.e.

I saw you as scum, but I will re-read you, and I still stand by my argument yadda yadda but that is a pointless road to go through, that we can talk about post game later if there is ever a need, or ignore it.

But, today, is not the day for that. My bed is calling and I must answer

p-edit: If you are town and you think you are getting good at scum hunting, and I was half of your scum reads...

Well

It might be time to start worrying innit.

But I, at least as of this moment, still don't believe you are.

But I am happy to read up and be proven wrong. Lets see later

it's day fucking 1 dude, and you've done shit this game.

Get off that self righteous high horse, and that's coming from me.

I have multiple scum reads, so i dont even know where that half of my scum read line coming from.

You have 2 garbo scum reads in obv towns.

Mate, I am just saying this, not even related to the game, but.

Relax

I am not offended, or annoyed, but seriously, chill.

Like, no reason to get insanely angry whenever anyone slightly disagrees with you, or whatever, just take a deep breath, enjoy the wonderful day, and feel free to tell me how much I suck, without getting too worked up

[ZZZX]

scum want claims

uh they also want mislims?

you have such a basic understanding of scum play if you think scum wanting a Vanilla Town misfade with no other claims in the game is better than scum causing more chaos and getting more claims.

If I were scum, I'd be rolling in this game abusing this playerlist.

Oh, do you mean getting town mislim'd, having 100+ pages which are impossible to read, having most events around a town player that was lim'd, then giving no real info isn't abusing the playerlist and causing chaos?

I mean, you are ambitious, thats somthing

you weren't even the main wagon this day phase, you need to scope out more.

And if you're town, you need to look into my logic more because you're OMGUS tunneled since your bad semantics argument earlier in the game.

I was actively pushing the wagon that your counterwagon got pushed into and fighting for the wagon that wasn't your wagon earlier, but you seem to think you were my main focus, and i really didn't care about your slot the majority of this day phase

I mean, I was at E-1, for a while, and I was at E-3 the moment I went V/LA.

I didn't scum read you for my wagon, Cats was who started my wagon, and they started it for a reason just as dumb, and they would've been an easy way to divert to another wagon or get a free brownie points from a few peeps, but I dont see it f.e.

I saw you as scum, but I will re-read you, and I still stand by my argument yadda yadda but that is a pointless road to go through, that we can talk about post game later if there is ever a need, or ignore it.

But, today, is not the day for that. My bed is calling and I must answer

p-edit: If you are town and you think you are getting good at scum hunting, and I was half of your scum reads...

Well

It might be time to start worrying innit.

But I, at least as of this moment, still don't believe you are.

But I am happy to read up and be proven wrong. Lets see later

it's day fucking 1 dude, and you've done shit this game.

Get off that self righteous high horse, and that's coming from me.

I have multiple scum reads, so i dont even know where that half of my scum read line coming from.

You have 2 garbo scum reads in obv towns.

Mate, I am just saying this, not even related to the game, but.

Relax

I am not offended, or annoyed, but seriously, chill.

Like, no reason to get insanely angry whenever anyone slightly disagrees with you, or whatever, just take a deep breath, enjoy the wonderful day, and feel free to tell me how much I suck, without getting too worked up

I'm just aggro commenting in the arena, it's never personal. I'm not actually angry.

If y'all want me to get less aggro, then y'all need to stop poking thorns in my direction.

Dont poke the bear if ya can't handle the leaf.

When I'm actually angry, I will be sure to let y'all know

Well, fair enough, you never really know.

I will be fairly happy to keep poking to bear, Dancing around danger and making bad decisions happen to be some of my biggest hobbies, I recon most people in this game figured out by now

Anyway for real for real this time, Goodnight

[ZZZX]

Then it's fine, but I will be pushing those thorns right back in with 20 times the force.

just the way it works here in the arena.

I'm 1v8ing right now, and still getting the wagon I wanted the most this day phase, so you act like it's not working for some reason?

Ok I lied, I saw a reply and I

had

to see it.

Hey, I had a simple goal, I am a simple and honest man

This game is too active for me to keep up with my busy schedule, and I didnt expect 100+ pages already, but I am somehow semi keeping up, mostly out of survival instincts, and I am more than happy to survive, reach a point where the list is smaller, which is where I excel anyway, and then catch scum.

Also, per your posts I am currently the wagon you wanted the most, but I will give it to you that this is the wagon you wanted the most for a majority of this day phase, so yes, I have to quote one post for funzies, just before I hit the bed

p-edit: Fair enough, been there at some point, but currently been too swamped with work personally (

[ZZZX]

Then it's fine, but I will be pushing those thorns right back in with 20 times the force.

just the way it works here in the arena.

I'm 1v8ing right now, and still getting the wagon I wanted the most this day phase, so you act like it's not working for some reason?

i have zero control in this game, and thats the biggest town Flavor tell in existence.

Scum Flavor games, I am control.

[ZZZX]

ZZZX out, and for now, for real, I am literally instantly turning off my laptop, goodnight!

[ZZZX]

A new day, another 200 pages?

Well, we got crossfire which is good, but we did lose a role blocker.

I will read Klazam later to see if I can figure anything there

[ZZZX]

Cool deaths, now I feel more interested in trying to solve this game.

I wasn't 100% confident but I thought Drew was a bit towny, so it's interesting that he got shot. I wonder if he was shot in an attempt to hit scum, and if so which players would have that sort of read on him.

Klazam will be great to mine for associatives later.

Sadly he barely had 22 posts. Half of which were flipflopping on me lol

[ZZZX]

GG, well done Enchant taking over my slot and carrying it, I had to bail out when I couldn't keep up with the game activity