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xvart, I'd rather Tasky took a look at your translation, but I think it's not quite right. Specifically, "nothing to say" is Google Translate's way of saying "null tell".
And I think that's essentially what chesskid is saying.
"No, that is not what I said.
I said it was a null tell.
In reality, if there are three dead scum, it is unlikely that one of the remaining two post restrictions is scum."
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I'm not liking xvart's play today at all. He's voting chesskid for no reason other than statistics instead of actually scumhunting. He is being almost deliberately obtuse about BE, he is rolefishing, he is abusing google translate to misrep someone I have a town read on, he didn't manage to reread the thread even given a night (possibly WIFOM, but suggests he had other stuff to do at night maybe?), and the slot he replaced into didn't post anything day 1 (hypocrisy, your name is smargaret, but I'm off the V/LA now).
Based on who was on the wagon yesterday and how it was being pushed, I have a town read on chesskid. He's an easy lynch and a bus just doesn't make sense to me. I'm also not really a fan of Twomz or Tasky, and I think there's a replacement still who has yet to say anything.
If BE is scum, xvart is scum. If BE is town, xvart is probably town.-
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Tasky seems to be flailing about for any lynch that isn't BE right now.
At this point, BE is the best lynch. There are two outcomes: BE is scum. This is obviously good. BE is town. BE is vanilla town (per claim), so we haven't mislynched another power role. The wagon on BE will provide a lot of material for analysis tomorrow. We'll get rid of a scummy player who would be serious trouble in LyLo, so he doesn't make a bad mislynch either.
Even if Tasky has done something to ensure that BE will die tonight and BE is scum, we are so far ahead of the scum that we can afford to lose the opportunity. Seriously, what is the downside to lynching BE?-
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I'd like to hear thoughts on xvart or esp. Tasky seems town after yesterday (scum would have jumped on the BE wagon instead of pushing us to wait and see if he survived the night), and there's nothing in manho's iso. I'm going over him too, and the same reason that had me suspecting BE yesterday applies to him today, but BE was town so I'm not sure how valid that is. I don't really see anything other than active lurking for esp.-
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Huh. Upon rereading, xvart has the defense of BE, which gives him town points, and some rolefishing/pointless post restriction discussion/my own private reason which give him scum points. Leaning scum, but probably not a good choice for today.
EBWOP: The last post was goodposting. Read changes to null.-
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xvart, I was posting the read of you I'd mentioned in my response to LLD's list of scumspects. See the preview edit - I didn't see your post until later.
Also, Parama has no town meta. Parama plays the same whether he's town or scum. The fact that he's bringing up his meta is concerning, though, because everything I've heard about how meta arguments are terrible has come from one source and that's Parama.-
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Is my paraphrase correct?
Calling an argument town v town is an anti-town statement
LLD is obvtown
Manho's posting up until post 828 is frothy (?) and that's manho being manho, it's a nulltell. Jumping on the easy lynch for it, however, is a scumtell.
Lol, ninja'd. This is a tricky one and I'd especially like Tasky's version of the last paragraph.-
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My interpretation of his post was that you do a lot of talking about the case on BE without actually making a case. Posts like "I'll post tomorrow," "I'll let other head do it," and "Go find it yourself" make you look scummy when they are disproportionate to the "BE is scum because X, Y, and Z" posts.The Stove wrote:I've given my reasoning for wanting BE (among others) to be in the graveyard pile.
BTW, there's a rather core fallacy to his argument. It's not necessary to post an exhaustive case on someone in order to vote them. For example:
Toon Fighter never appears in your iso before this. And your TF never appeared afterwards either, even though you even promised one.Lady LambdaDelta wrote:Well... that's nice to see! No deaths!
Vote: Toon Fighter
My votes gonna hang out right here for now. I want to do a read of Reckamonic and xvrt, and I'll see if I can get a block post consisting of the cases against those 2, aswell as TF.
amirite?
Also, just because LLD posted a vote without a case doesn't mean it's less scummy for you to do it.
UNVOTE: manho
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Fate did have a new read. He says Parama is scum.
I would much rather see Parama investigated than lynched, especially since we have other scummy people about today. I'm not getting the Espeonage wagon - I don't want a wall post, but is there anything other than his resemblance to Nobody Special that has Espeonage down as scum?-
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Fate, I think you're just incapable of having a townread on me.
Chesskid saying flipped town would seem less scummy if I had less of a general scumvibe coming from Chesskid. Also, TF is a memorable dayvig for flipping town (and the whole self-voting thing), and it looked a lot to me like TF was filler in chesskid's list.-
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No, I have to vote for who I think is scum. If that person doesn't happen to be a main wagon, that doesn't change my read.Fate wrote:I think you're incapable of being productive as town.
You need to VOTE main wagons or make a case good enough so that it BECOMES a main wagon.
This "herpa derpa chess isn't payin attention" isn't good enough.
Sorry for not being a sheep, but I'm not going to vote someone when I don't have a scumread on them when we're in no danger of no-lynch.-
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Eh, I'm not sure I buy Parama's logic for why Charlie must be town, but I'm more sure Tasky is scum.
Fate, all you've done since your catch-up post is complain about people not wagonning - admittedly I'm not the all-knowing Mafia God you are, but what you're doing feels an awful lot like rolefishing.
EBWOP: Parama, if you think Twomz is the dayvig (which is what I assume you mean by sk), he's shot scum for us. Still think he should die?
Also, where's Nacho? I know he was signed onto MS earlier tonight.-
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It's not just Tasky that you want outed, though, Fate. You want claims from every person that you consider scummy - and heaven help the poor soul who dares to disagree with you. Witness the explosion in your two (EBWOP: 3) most recent posts.
Why are you afraid of someone questioning your motivations? I didn't say it was scummy because I wasn't certain that it was scummy rolefishing. It was rolefishing, though, and that plus your OMGUS - which you practically admit it is - really makes me wonder about the towniness of your motivations.
Now, I'm going to go reread the game and read some isos. I hope to be able to post a list like Antihero wants before going V/LA (and that vote on Tasky was mostly to see what Fate would do, so UNVOTE: Tasky). I'll certainly manage to come up with my top choice for scum by then.