Open 290 - Double Day (Game Over)

[silverbullet999]

VOTE: Nobody Special
You stayed! good man!

[silverbullet999]

VOTE: bhvoigt
!

[silverbullet999]

Hiraki, you are a jerk

[silverbullet999]

I'm not sure if the right word is "too good" for either category

[silverbullet999]

singer, what's the oldest scumtell in the book?

[silverbullet999]

soo hiraki.. you'll be more or less sitting in the back and watching ?

hmmmmm

VOTE: Hiraki

[silverbullet999]

-Hiraki
no assumption had

Carry on children.

implies you are some father/mother watching his/her children.
Actually not watching, more or less noticed something with his/her children made a comment about it (scolding your children i guess?) and then said ok children, carry on!

[silverbullet999]

-Hiraki
you just mind fucked me... hope you had a condom, cause my mind is dirty! hawhaw!

ummm... mouse i'd assume is bvoigt
elephant... isss... ummm... no idea
I didn't say you were fence sitting... I said you implied were gonna sit back and watch, ala not do anything, ala lurk, fence sitting would more or less be you talking yet not stating any opinions of any nature. now whose making the assumptions? ba bam!

as for the last sentence.. well there's the mind screw... and I dunno what it means.

[silverbullet999]

fence sitting =/= lurking

[silverbullet999]

Alts are cool cause then you can just post like this!

*hopes the next user posts all this to cause massive amounts of confusion*

[silverbullet999]

Oh meransiel, you are no fun

[silverbullet999]

so.......

[silverbullet999]

So you're afraid I'm going to lurk.

Yes I fear that without you, the holy hiraki, to lead us, we will be lost in darkness.

[silverbullet999]

Nacho, do you have some sort of post-restriction that we for w/e reason don't know about?

Make another One Lynch post if yes.

[silverbullet999]

*forehead slam*

You said technically both yes and no.

sooo which is it... or would you like to explain your madness?

[silverbullet999]

[silverbullet999]

Nacho's groups are people who are lurking?

[silverbullet999]

Fur, why the blow up on post 96?

[silverbullet999]

-Fur

someone changed my fucking name in a quote, that is bullshit

I still don't see why the blow up. Yes confid accidentally/purposefully 'misquoted you' in stating that parama stated what you said. However it's not even like Parama is in this game so it's not like there's some super secret motive or plan (that I can see) for confid to purposefully do such a thing.

Would you be offended if I had the above and below quote quoted as fur said instead of your full 'name'?

So you are admitting to completely misrepresenting someone's word who had their vote on you? Cool story bro

How did he misrepresent your word... please expand on this.

P-Edit
-singer
ehhh let me just dig a lil bit more

[silverbullet999]

-Fur

Silver_bullet, answer this before I answer you, are you done defending confidanon/attacking his attackers?

This is a sly double sworded question. I find you suspicious for your what I would deem overreaction. But now this question if answered implies I'm fully defending confid and more generally i am or was attacking his attackers. I don't like this one bit.

Now please answer my question posted to you.

VOTE: Furcolow

[silverbullet999]

-Pim

-Silver needs to explain why Furc's 'overreaction' is suspicious to him.

Please see post 112.

[silverbullet999]

-Fur

You are doing that
I don't mind your vote on me, it furthers your chainsaw defense of him

So because I find your reaction to confid's mistake weird as hell, I'm attacking all his attackers and trying like no mercy to show he's town. Right... someone's stretching shit and it sure as hell stinks.

Also HOW is my question double sided. AND EVEN IF IT WAS THEN WHY DID YOU BOTHER ANSWERING IT.. YOU LIE SIR

? I don't give a fuck if there was a motive, it's something you just don't do. You don't misrepresent someone as someone else to make your response look different. It's improper. Why are you even focusing on this as a case of an overreaction? All you said is "you blew up" and then you defend confidanon, which I'm sure you're doing; you're chainsaw defending him, and you recently furthered it by voting one of his attackers (me)

All he did was say that Parama said exactly what you said. How the hell does the response become any different. You over reacted and went straight to the mod about this (something I think a scumbag would be more inclined to do if they feel they can pull a mod action from it which would obviously more than likely benefit scum). I have only been defending confid with his quote. It's a small ass mistake and your the one getting all fired up about it. It's not like he quoted you as saying something you didn't, it's not like he quoted you or the mod saying stuff from a pm or anything of that sort. All he did was mislabel you as parama, a player who is NOT EVEN IN THIS GAME. I don't see how you can even claim i'm defending him like all tomorrow and attacking his attackers (unless you claim to be the only attacker). You are being very far stretched and saying full blown lies.

I think we found our day 0.5 lynch.

[silverbullet999]

-Pim

But then I wonder, what's the reason for Furc-scum to overreact on it?

You really should start reading my posts...

I'm feeling less lazy today so I'll quote it in my most recent post.

You over reacted and went straight to the mod about this (something I think a scumbag would be more inclined to do if they feel they can pull a mod action from it which would obviously more than likely benefit scum).

[silverbullet999]

ehm... wha?

[silverbullet999]

You asked a new question in 162... you asked where the motivation is for fur scum.

If you bothered reading post 145 then you'd see I had already stated it thus you wouldn't have had a need to ask the question.

The question you posted in 124... you asked why I found the over reaction suspicious.

I pointed you to post 112 where he stated he was misrepresented and claimed that the misnaming was complete bullshit.

Please read posts.

[silverbullet999]

-Fur

Silverbullet, I had a huge response typed out for you, and I am honestly glad that my computer died. Your play is offensive, and YOU are the one out of line here. This issue was between ConfidAnon and myself, and I am not going to respond to you whatsoever in this thread anymore if I can help it. Good day to you, sir.

Please state where I have been offensive to you. I apologize in advance however I don't recall doing any sort of namecalling or well really anything of the sort thus I'd like to know where it is.

[silverbullet999]

-Fur
So.. your willingly just going to ignore me. Without actually stating specifics why I've even been offensive. This heavily comes off as "running away". If it was curses I apologize (though you were no saint in that department either). If you continue to refuse me information i'm going to be deadlocked on you as scum. If your town you have nothing to hide... you have something to hide?

[silverbullet999]

Alright well it looks like fur isn't going to respond

Because of his posts and actions and I am calling for his lynch for day 0.5

I'll post a nice o wall later today (or tomorrow latest) with the case but simply put, fur has lied, exaggerated, acted offended and pissed, and now apparently has "calmed down" in order to control himself (I wouldn't be surprised if his whole big post was really a farce or that he second guessed himself with his big post and decided not to post as it wouldn't match up correctly and more evidence would be presented or something of the sort).

[silverbullet999]

even fur's recent posts/ refusal to state exactly what he found offensive/ still unanswered questions posted to him that he now has an excuse to not answer?

[silverbullet999]

Ok here's the wall... as to why I strongly believe fur to be scum... though it probably won't be all that big.
(At Finish) Holy Shit... wow... I think this is my biggest post of all time? Regardless... you should read it.

(Bolded are direct quotes from fur's posts with the exception of () (these are comments by me if any))

*Ahem*

It all started with Confid's misquote of fur with fur basically blowing up in post 96 and also asking the mod about it.
This heavily struck me as curious because to me, it really didn't seem like a big deal... Parama isn't in this game, and the quote stayed the same (it's not like it was a selective quote or was edited). Thus I ask him why he reacted like he did in post 102.

In post 108 he replies stating "

someone changed my fucking name in a quote, that is bullshit

". In the same post what also heavily catches my eye is his response to Confid admitting the mistake. The reply is "

So you are admitting to completely misrepresenting someone's word who had their vote on you? Cool story bro

". Now his reply to me still confused me as to why he was so angry about it. And I tell him this in post 112 because again, it's not like confid changed the actual quote. This also heightens my interest because he dead on claims that Confid "

completely misrepresented someone's (someone being him) word who had their vote on you

". I ask him to expand on the reasoning behind such a claim because frankly I don't see it.

In post 121 he responds to me with his own question. That being "

You tell me Silver_bullet, answer this before I answer you, are you done defending confidanon/attacking his attackers

? This question frankly alarms me because I consider it a double sworded question (whether I reply yes or no, I "claim" that I am/was defending confidanon/attacking his attackers.) and I don't find this true (as I'm not defending Confid's other actions nor am I attacking any of his other attackers) Thus he earns my vote and I state this and vote him in post 122 and I ask him to answer my question posted to him.

In post 141 he makes two responses to me. The first is in reply to post 122. He states "

You are doing that. I don't mind your vote on me, it furthers your chainsaw defense of him

. "The you are doing that" leads me to believe that he's stating that my question in post 112 is a double sworded question. Which is a broken claim since he answers it in his second reply.

The second reply is to post 112 (where I asked him to expand on how his word was misrepresented) "

? I don't give a fuck if there was a motive, it's something you just don't do. You don't misrepresent someone as someone else to make your response look different. It's improper. Why are you even focusing on this as a case of an overreaction? All you said is "you blew up" and then you defend confidanon, which I'm sure you're doing; you're chainsaw defending him, and you recently furthered it by voting one of his attackers (me)

His answer, completely ignores my question because he evades stating how the quote become misrepresented or made the response look different. He simply restates that it did and it was fucked up. He then continues to claim I'm just defending confidanon, and etc.

In post 145 I respond first to the first part. I comment on how his idea of a chainsaw defense is simply put... an exaggeration that I find scummy. I also ask how my question was double sworded and how if it was (as he said it was) why did he even bother answering it. In his second part I respond stating I still don't see where the response becomes different and I really start to think this kid is scum making a desperate move to get mod action going to get day 0.5 done (he is aggressive enough and seems to be enough of a loose cannon / power hungry to win that I can see him trying to pull such a tactic... especially since he STILL has not given any actual reason or evidence as to how the response became different)

In post 172 we have the power outage story (maybe true maybe not) where he had a nice big wall for me but lost it thus he decides i'm being way too offensive and i'm way out of line. Direct quote "

Silverbullet, I had a huge response typed out for you, and I am honestly glad that my computer died. Your play is offensive, and YOU are the one out of line here. This issue was between ConfidAnon and myself, and I am not going to respond to you whatsoever in this thread anymore if I can help it. Good day to you, sir.

He also claims that I should have stayed out of it (never a good sign) since the argument should have been between just him and Confid. He then states he is going to basically ignore me for the rest of the game.

First Off. I'll be the first to admit that I can be an asshole and go a little crazy... most of the time I do it intentionally in search of a reaction and apologize after or at the end of game. I have not done this intentionally here not have I meant to be offensive.

He also responds to my response to Pim "

I've read your posts, and not only are they bad, they are honestly offensive.

" Which is humorous in 2 ways. A. he's offending me B. He's butting in between a discussion... wait didn't he state that I shouldn't have done the same thing between him and confid?...

Anyway I respond in post 173 apologizing for any offense given and asking where specifically I offended him. His response in post 174 "

Just your general behavior/tone/wordchoice in and of itself. I don't want to delve into it and start a pissing contest, just know I'm not going to really respond to you a lot, and if I do, like this, it will be very concise.

" He doesn't want to give specific examples where I offended him.. probably because there were none. He's more or less making an excuse to not respond to any pressure I give him.

And basically that's it. I make one more post in 175 that he has yet to answer and will assume he will ignore.

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TL:DR: This is my first legit wall in quite awhile.. I'd urge you to read the whole thing but simply put.. Fur makes accusations to Confid that he cannot back up. He get's scared when I call him out on it and says I'm chainsaw defending Confid and attacking all his attackers. He continuously ignores my key question as to how Confid's mistake = a changed response. He then asks me a double sworded question that I again call him out on. He claims I did the same yet still attempts to answer (without actually answering) the double sworded question. I call him out on this and the lie that my question was a double sworded question. He then says I'm offensive yet refuses to list specific things that offended him. He also proceeds to offend me. He then states that he's going to basically ignore me.

This just screams SCUM. We have Double Days and Day 0.5 NEEDS to end with Fur dead.

I'm just gonna go sit in a corner now while this is completely ignored... -_-

[silverbullet999]

-Confid
It's his claims (how your typo somehow changes his actual response for instance) and refusal to actually explain these claims when asked that has me feel that he was more or less A. trying for mod action (something I feel scum would be more inclined to do) B. trying to justify his attack on you by being over dramatic C. trying to get me to back off with shouts of chainsaw defense and that I'm attacking all your attackers and then lastly D. Acting like I've offended him heavily yet can't even quote specific examples and uses this reasoning to justify why he will no longer respond to any further questions I have.

As I said it really just screams scum to me cause it seems like he's trying to hide something with his refusal to actually state any reasonings or justifications.

[silverbullet999]

I don't get why you guys aren't fully seeing what I'm seeing... is fur annoying? yeah but the point is his actual actions. He hasn't and I bet will never explain how a simple misquote changes the meaning of the quote. He really reminds me of enigma (but not nearly as good/evil as him). He is acting over emotional now and my actions are affecting him (just look at his quotes below..) but the start of his emotion comes randomly. Again he has stated he's offended by me yet refuses to even hint where the offense was given (he only gave a very general excuse). I'll try to move on to someone else but I obviously really want fur lynched... sooner vs later (Day 0.5 preferably but no later than Day 1... or I will headdesk myself to death).

-Fur

SilverBullet you make me want to beat you. You need to lay off me, this is ridiculous, your play is terrible.

Fur, you are being a hypocrite, though I haven't the faintest clue as to how I offended you and you won't state what it is, I am holding off any insults. Your quote is obviously offensive to me. I'm going to ask you what you asked of me.

it is certainly better than SilverBullet posting a wall about someone who has already promised to ignore them and not respond to them, but hey, it saves me from having to read it. The thing about it is I don't really believe scum would do that, and town can definitely make a bad case on town a lot more easily, so I guess the fact he did that makes me lean town on him a little, even if I would be completely fine with lynching him because I simply don't want to read his posting or respond to him.

You won't respond to this but how do you know the case is bad if you didn't read it? This is seriously such a crappy excuse to not respond at all. Your last sentence is completely anti-town to say the least since you just admitted that you would be absolutely fine with lynching someone that you feel is a townie.

[frustration] WHY DOES NOONE ELSE FIND THIS SUSPICIOUS GAHHH [/frustration]

Ninja:
-Hiraki
I hate you... -_-

[silverbullet999]

Scum...day?!

Been a year since he first created his account

[silverbullet999]

hiraki's flip flops disturb me slightly

[silverbullet999]

-Fur
You were the one who said you'd stop responding to my posts...

wanna actually follow your word or did you forget?

[silverbullet999]

[silverbullet999]

Ah-hah.. hah... you must be so fun to hang with in real life...

[silverbullet999]

Have you ever had an awkward moment... just to see how feels?

[silverbullet999]

-Sing

Can you guys, like, not have your pissing contest here when there are some people actually trying to catch up in the game?

I more or less see it as I got him but since I've currently failed to get a lynch on him, he's more or less boasting of the accomplishment since he knows i'm right yet he's so 'good' that he's still seen as town... and thus he taunts.

[silverbullet999]

To expand on the above as a last ditch effort for now.

Alright... I dug stuff from an old game up, look at the argument between me and engima... the pissing contest there doesn't even compare to what's supposedly a pissing contest here.

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 50&t=15219
(Summary: I call out enigma as scum and catch a blatent lie, me and enigma argue while also throwing insults at each other, town basically ignores it throwing it as ATE, I die that night, enigma lives to end game thanks to a great move by his partner and wins the game for scum).

A similar thing has happened here. I've made a huge case on fur, and it's failed completely in it's task at getting fur lynched. It's made everyone throw him as null or even town. Obviously fur scum (being the loose cannon he is... (ala arrogant)) is happy about this since he sees a townie completely failing to get a lynch on him. This get's him overconfident (because at first he was actually scared as to what people would say and started playing the, "you have emotionally scarred me! you have crossed the line! I am going to ignore you now!" card in an effort to derail me).

Obviously if I crossed the line at any point in this game... he would not logically want to provoke me (as this would obviously lead me to "crossing the line" again). Yet what does he do... I make a post in 244 about hiraki... and he himself makes a reply in an attempt to provoke me once more. This guy is obviously lying...

[silverbullet999]

Lol hiraki is failing, I think he's mixing up players in games.

[silverbullet999]

are you a fast processor or slow processor?

[silverbullet999]

-Hiraki

I need to re-read this game. I'll post the next time I get better reads on everyone.

I'm confused, you seemed to have reads of most people at one point...

1)Number 58: Null
2)Confid: Leaning scum
3)TwistedSpoon: Null, but I haven't really checked TS out yet. He's next on my list.
4)bviogot: Leaning Town
5)Klazam: Eh. Leaning scum. I won't say VI yet.
6)Furclow: Town
7)singersinger: After TS
8)Meran: Town
9)silverbullet: VI
10)Nacho: Leaning Town
11)DrBokChoy: Leaning Scum
12)Apokotalpytica(Butchered that): Leaning scum
13)Pim: Eh. Town

So... what happened?

[silverbullet999]

Well you saying you need to get better reads seems to imply that your initial reads were not very good reads or that you believed something to be wrong with those reads... thus not consistent.

No?

[silverbullet999]

eh mayhaps

[silverbullet999]

Players who have really died:
Nacho,
sing (though obviously now V/LA)
Confid
Number58?
Pim

Above players... let's undie and post some yes?

(Especially you nacho, I see you lurking and this isn't like you from previous games)

P-Edit

Disregard Nacho, though i'm holding soon to be within the next 3 days...

[silverbullet999]

seeing how he changed my time limit from 3 days to just today... I don't really see the annoyance in it.

[silverbullet999]

Nacho.....


Politicians aren't cool...

[silverbullet999]

Nacho died again with a false promise...
confid... where are you...
and pim... is getting replaced?

I'm really not digging nacho's false promise D:<

[silverbullet999]

Ok it's been nearly 3 days which was the limit I set...

[silverbullet999]

*note to self*

catch up post, begin on page 14ish

[silverbullet999]

written as I read

-Fur

I'd like to see Confid/silver/singer/pim/nacho give reasoning for not being on the top wagons

At the risk of being hated, you are still my number 1.

-Singer

Back; catching up; see you soon. <3

What happened with this? You didn't make a post...

Hi pod... or drbokchv... though not actually dr..

Hi my catchup post..

Nacho's probably town... least for now.

I don't see the fur lynch happening, and he's won some slight town points.
thus i'll move it to one of the bigger wagons... and my pick is...

VOTE: meransiel

[silverbullet999]

^

THE CALLOUT

^

[silverbullet999]

Also going to catch up tonight... this week has not been fun.

[silverbullet999]

-pod

what won him these slight town points? you don't specify in your post, and the top of your post has him listed as your #1 suspicion and best vote. both of which seem to change over the course of the post.

I typed it out while I caught up... pretty sure I mentioned that

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-Pod

i checked and i checked again, and you did not. can you quote where? if unable to do that, answer my question in your next post.

... really now how the hell are you missing it

written as I read

It's the first thing that's in that post
It's right above where I say
-Fur
The same exact post that your question relates to...
Please look again and be astonished that you can now see what you believed not to be there...
(Post 392 in case you forget)

[silverbullet999]

Actually i'm even a bit more disturbed because hell in that SAME EXACT post I say hello to my own catchup post...

[silverbullet999]

-pod

i know you were typing as you read, but there was nothing to support furc getting sudden town points in your catchup post.

The posts between my catchup post and that specific post where I read fur's posts and questionings

[silverbullet999]

well technically page 14 i think.. whatever I stated in the reminder to self must catch up at some page

[silverbullet999]

VOTE: meran

Hammered.

[silverbullet999]

hiraki.. before the forum get's locked... how do you know that he'll flip town...

[silverbullet999]

o yeah it's double... well eh...

what makes you 100% sure your town that makes him town?

i'm almost tempted to believe your parenthesis...

[silverbullet999]

i'm going to assume caps is sarcasm...

sooo

i don't believe you stating your reads.. and you making one comment.. qualifies as saying WHY he's town.

except for this one.

(lololol actuzlly i kno becuz im scum and i kno hes not scum111!1111!11!!)

[silverbullet999]

I ask for explanation and I get none...

hiraki you are getting looked at heavily day 1....

[silverbullet999]

oh damn it mod with your votecount >:(

and yes i know I didn't actually hammer... that was the point.

wanted mer to react... though interesting reactions were had nonetheless

[silverbullet999]

-pod
you do realize most of the time someone catches it right away...

also deadline isn't til the 7th... whatchu talkin bout

[silverbullet999]

The deadline is APRIL 7th

-Hiraki

Silver. Why didn't you question that Pod was so sure of Meranscum?

I would hardly say pod saying "meran is scum" really means I AM DEAD CERTAIN THAT THIS SCUMBAG IS SCUM... especially on day 1...

[silverbullet999]

-Hiraki

But you obviously didn't think that of me if I had barely any proof.

P.E.

Feeling=/=Being.

This is worded weirdly...
anyway, i'll try to interpret it correctly with a response.

When I fake hammered you said this

meran is going to flip town.
When I ask you why you say this
you say cause you are 100% sure he is going to flip town.
Then you joke that you are scum and that's why you know he's going to flip town.

Then you claim that you said why already
then you post where you said why
which consist of your reads and a one line sentence of a reply to meran that i don't see the significance of.

finally you try to push my suspicion/questioning of you onto pod (whom i'm also not fully liking as well as twisted atm) by using the opposite argument (I say he's town, pod says he's scum, you questioned me, why not him?)

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Silver. Your constant push on me is really giving me the wrong tingle.

So you don't like being pressured, noted

Just because you believe they had no significance, doesn't mean that I haven't said anything.

derp... you said you had reasons as to why.. you have stated a glamorous total of NONE

Also, nice question dodge.

Right cause your post had a question mark or had any resemblance of a question not of a reply.

[silverbullet999]

-hiraki

Depends on the kind of pressure really. ;D

ok, i admit i laughed... : P

But seriously. Your last bundle of posts have been on me or Pod. That's what I'm getting at.

I sort of disagree, my last bundle of posts have primarily been on you (the only thing i've said with pod is me replying to him about deadline and such).
However regardless... why are you concerned that i'm currently focusing on you? (Cause i'm the pro scum hunter and yous be afraid imma out you ? )

You're as derpy as usual. You believe what you want, I'll believe what 's there.

Tell me what is there. Let me see this world through your eyes hiraki...

This one's my fault. Mixed you up with Furclow for a moment. Apologies.

I believe you, and you are forgiven.

[silverbullet999]

-Fur

@Silver, why so quick to forgive? I feel you are possibly barking up the RIGHT tree for once.

Only thing I'm forgiving hiraki of is his apology about the question dodging.

[silverbullet999]

-Hiraki

Pro-Scum hunters don't focus on one person. You've heard about tunneling right? I feel there is a very bad vibe to your push.

You know.. this would be perfectly fine... if you mentioned it before when I was tunneling on furc (or are we really going to be so quick to forget that?)... using this excuse with yourself though now all of a sudden? hhmmmmmmmm.

Yeah...no. I've already told you what is there, and I'm confident your beliefs will not change, therefore, I believe there's no point.

YEAH let's assume that there's no point... why? cause... you are an ass

However, Hero did the same thing, so I guess I'm obligated to. Oh well.

proof you are an ass

[silverbullet999]

-hiraki
seriously? remember when I scumhunted furc.. made a big wall, called for his lynch... etc etc. Was I scumhunting him and several others at that time? The answer is no bud.

I couldn't give 2 damns about what you think.

This is a really shitty defense for a townie because obviously you'd care what i think to see the motivation behind it and thus read me better. This is furthermore actually completely hypocritical to you saying I'm getting a bad vibe from you since that statement in itself states that you don't like what i'm thinking and doing.

[silverbullet999]

I agree with the apok wagon and pods case but I'm going to hold off for a bit.

Hiraki.. (heh this is gonna be funny) I'm throwing you as a vi... an arrogant one at that... (least for now)

If you want me to respond to 517 tell me but I'm sort of "done" with you for now so I myself have no more further reasons to pursue you.

[silverbullet999]

Silver. Push it in and I will rage on you and all of your posts.

I take it you don't want me to respond to 517 then.

[silverbullet999]

How is making sure you don't want me to respond to 517... pursuing you further...
no need to get angry hiraki, if you want to think me as scum you go ahead but don't let anger cloud your judgement either way.

[silverbullet999]

Silver. I'm ceasing communications. After this period. That one. Right there.

I feel like this happened before... in this game... o wait.. it did

In that case you are also going to ignore what I state below and I suggest you do if you are going to get further dramatic about it
Either Hiraki is an over arrogant (feelings hurt cause he was wrong) village idiot, or this is one whole big gambit. I am not fully sure if he would be ballsy enough to even attempt such a gambit and think he more or less truly believed meran to be town thus making him instant town.
However furc your post of the definite tell (which even hiraki admits) does shed some potential light. Does meran fos anyone else? (I'm lazy and don't feel like looking atm but will if noone feels like doing so).
-Lastly Hiraki's whole change in attitude this game... especially end game... idk it feels genuine in a way but not fully.
-He calls me a dick for fake hammering
-rants about meran town
-starts to try to deflect me on to pod since i didn't ask about pod.
-gets further annoyed by me pushing him and believes me to have scum intent on pushing him
-then states i'm tunneling him and not being a pro-scum hunter
-claims meran is town some more
-then claims more than my push on him feels scummy
-549 is his rage post... (yup he's allowed to call me an idiot but when the table turns? nope)
-551 i'm now opportunistic scum apparently
-and his latest post he feels that the lynch will def be apok or him and regardless he wants me dead cause i'm def scum now.

eh I could see him being either and trying this as a gambit.
Actually hiraki I hope you are reading this and that you answer the following question even though you are prob going to use the excuse that you are no longer communicating
---
-Hiraki
What's the scum motivation in my push on you during the last hours of Day 0.5?

[silverbullet999]

Apok's at L-1 ladies and gents

I sort of don't see the rush but eh

[silverbullet999]

im still waiting for a response from hiraki.

[silverbullet999]

VOTE: hiraki

[silverbullet999]

I think pod's vost shouldn't count... cause it wasn't... formatted correctly... ?

[silverbullet999]

VOTE: starbuck

obviously mod was angry and that's why she picked pod

[silverbullet999]

That's my gif!

[silverbullet999]

damnnn cmon that was obviously just a joke...

UNVOTE:

[silverbullet999]

give me a bit to reread, need to refresh my memory of this game.

also I am a joker, else I wouldn't have posted a joke! (oh snap)


alright serious time next post I swear.

[silverbullet999]

Hiraki, where's your case, political promises I hate.

[silverbullet999]

-Twisted
Touche

VOTE: Hero

[silverbullet999]

If I'm scum, then yes, I should have a hidden blade up my sleeve. However, there's no hidden blade. There's a motherfucking shotgun.

Erm... scum would holster a hidden weapon you say... you are holstering a hidden weapon... ummm

?

[silverbullet999]

Yeah I'm getting really slow getting back into this...

so simply hiraki thinks twisted is scum, twisted thinks hiraki is scum,

I highly doubt they are both scum.

(note to self) read the cases (/note to self)

[silverbullet999]

sooo... what's the status on those replacements?

[silverbullet999]

Well.. I've finished my one game... and i'm disappointed...

anyway i'll concentrate on this quite a bit.

[silverbullet999]

I'M ACTUALLY CRYING NOW.

Pic or gtfo.

[silverbullet999]

@mod: Is there a possible chance for an extension on deadline (I realize we aren't even close to it but yeah...)?

Nacho needs to stop lurkin...

[silverbullet999]

Good news regarding replacements. Stay tuned.

[silverbullet999]

And they're off

it's Twisted Spoon who takes an early lead, but then hiraki comes from nowhere, they're neck and neck and OHHH HERO Runs up from the pack it's twisted hero, hero twisted.. hiraki is falling slightly behind ohhh this is a good race folks.

[silverbullet999]

VOTE: L to the L to the D or simply... LLD

[silverbullet999]

People who need rope: Furc, Silverbullet, Number58

Why number58?

[silverbullet999]

You: VOTE:LLD
Me: On what grounds?
You: -ignores question, continues to give no reasons- WHY YOU SUSPECTIN' #58?

Wrong.. I'll correct this

You: VOTE:LLD
Me: No reasons?
Me: Silver, Furc, and Number58 need to die
You: -ignores question, continues to give no reasons- WHY YOU SUSPECTIN' #58?

And you didn't say anything about number58 til just now and immediately saying he should die... found it interesting

[silverbullet999]

You've made a ton of contentless posts lately. Why?

I don't really have the will to read the back and fourth between hiraki and twisted at this point and they both read to me as town. Joining furc in voting was for seeing lld's reaction... which I did.

[silverbullet999]

Why would i point out to you that i wanna see what your reaction is before you've actually reacted...
Seeing how freaked out you are by two votes (furc's I can understand to a point, mine eh not so much) and how you immediately claim AH-HA these two must be scum! ... well I do find it very interesting.

Hiraki you forget this is double day...

Ninja:
I'm SV now? sweet...

[silverbullet999]

-LLD

This is the same point you just brought up.

It was refuted.

Expand... what same point did I bring up?

[silverbullet999]

Thus, scum would be HAPPY to jump on my wagon under the guise of "following the policy lynch".

So in that case... when did I state this?

[silverbullet999]

wow...

so...

anyone who currently votes you.. or is already voting you... is scum... by that logic... yes?

[silverbullet999]

(Except perhaps for the one calling said wave)

[silverbullet999]

-Hiraki

Expand please... how am I doing what you are claiming..

she literally just said anyone who joins the wave in voting her is scum...
where before she literally said I must be scum because i joined the wagon under the guise that I was following the policy lynch...

[silverbullet999]

You'll notice that my first reaction was to ASK FOR A REASON.

WRONG
your first reaction was simply stating "No Reason?" and then further state "to give me rope as well as furc and number58" (who in all your posts before you had literally stated Nothing about him.)

I notice this and further pursue said reason and you give me a reason which i give my thoughts on, shortly after you don't respond to that thus I reveal it being a reaction test... how quick you are to immediately call someone scum (though hilariously you take it back for now on furc) disturbs me.

You then state that me revealing that I wanted your reaction was bullshit and i'm scum... which I question because why the fuck would I want to reveal that I'm looking for your reaction when I was still seeking it.. then you say it was refuted and I ask you to expand.. then you say it's refuted because scum would be happy to hop on a policy lynch under the guise of "following the policy lynch", I ask for where I state this and you then say Oh nope, all you need to do is hop on and ride the proverbial wave. Thus the main reason why i'm scum is because I voted you cause you are paranoid as hell about your wagon...

...

don't see how this is hard to see but ah well..

[silverbullet999]

Notice that I didn't move my vote onto you until you finally gave your shitty reason.

Actually you moved your vote when you magically though furc was an idiot.

"No Reason?" Implies that I want you to give one.

That alone? yes..
Saying afterwards that I should die before I respond... more or less implies you don't give a shit.

[silverbullet999]

I really am done arguing with you.

You are backpedaling now.

I have shown why you are scum.

[silverbullet999]

I'm goin off for awhile, gonna say this though.. @ all if you think i'm scum, vote me, if i'm lynched, i'm lynched. If I flip town (which I will) you

need

to lynch LLD cause 1. If she's somehow town... she's literally terribad and will drive this town to shit. 2. she's more than likely scum.

[silverbullet999]

Oh jesus, a catfight on mafiascum... hot?

-LLD

Appeal to Authority.

Expand, what the hell do you mean by this.

Hiraki should be voting for SV

WHY DO YOU KEEP CALLING ME SV!?!?!?

NS only ever posts when he's town. Always always always.

False...

I ask for a reason behind his vote 3 times.

Bullshit 2 times (only if you really want to call that first time an actual asking for a reason)

Further, his reactions to my posts are just attempt at slandering my logic.

When I point out his scummy moves and flaws, he attempts to backpedal by retroactively modifying his case.

Show me where the hell i'm doing either of these. Especially backpedalling show me quotes you *kitten*


If I wasn't afraid of being force replaced by a certain someone i'd rage at you right about now... *post filled with words and the word kitten posted repeatedly* (my biggest pet peeve on here is over arrogance... and jesus I thought enigma was bad... but you take the cake... and then some)

-Hiraki
Why are you so intent on getting behind LLD so hard?

This post raises alarms

Even if you are town, you realize that we won't lynch LLD, based off this reasoning right?
You're scummy. LLD found you at fault, convinced us.

LLD literally has drawn the me as super scum to you when just a day before most if not all of you thought I was town... further more doesn't me getting lynched and flipping town completely prove my point as to LLD be completely hazardous for this town regardless?

[silverbullet999]

-Hiraki

No, you being lynched just proves that you're scummy. Unless everyone here is blind sheep, LLD can't randomly force everyone to go on her lynch. When you are lynched, it will just prove that LLD has valid proof, and you are scummy. That's it.

Bullshit, one, you handily forget there's 2 scum left... thus this doesn't validate her case at all.
Two, this sorta feels like a scum slip since you just admitted that when I'm lynched... It'll show i'm scummy and that's it...

Also, that hardcore misrep isn't amazing either.

Where did this occur, give me fucking quotes rather than just regurgitating accusations.

You also missed the innuendo.. you suck.

[silverbullet999]

-THE KITTEN LLD

Got you~!

No you did not you stupid kitten kitten

Prove your point about me being hazardous?

THIS YOU *kitten*... I'm a townie... you've literally built up a case on bullshit and REFUSE TO SHOW ACTUAL EVIDENCE OF JUST ABOUT ANYTHING.

This sounds like a Policy lynch to me.

At this point seeing what you've caused I want you dead, regardless if it has me dieing first or not. You are a horrible addition for this town (unless you are scum) upon which you are a gift, I told you I don't give a shit if I'm dead first but if/when I flip town I want you dead right after so this bs doesn't happen to another townie and you drive the town to literal destruction with your overconfiden arrogant kitten.

And remember what I said about scum hopping in my wagon under the guise of a PL?

I HOPPED ON FOR YOUR REACTION NOW THAT I'VE SEEN HOW MUCH OF A STU.. KITTEN KITTEN KITTEN ARROGANT KITTEN KITTEN KITTEN YOU ARE I WANT YOU DEAD.

Yep~

NO YOU KITTEN

ONE QUOTE IS NOT A CASE GIVE ME MORE YOU KITTEN KITTEN!

Opportunistic Vote
No Logical Basis for Vote
When pressed, gave "reaction testing" as his reason for vote.
Misrep
Appeal to Authority
Lying (LAL)
Supporting a Policy Lynch on page 31.

SHOW ME THIS MISREP. WHERE DID YOUR ACCUSATION OF BACKPEDDELING GO. HOW IS IT AN APPEAL TO AUTHORITY... SHOW ME ALL OF THIS YOU KITTEN.

-Hiraki

This is assuming if you're town, obviously. I was in your mindset for a moment.

Bullshit, if your in my mindset then your agreeing with me, even if your assuming im town then obviously you see the destruction and chaos that LLD is causing and that there's a big fucking problem with all of this.

[silverbullet999]

-LLD

Being called Kitten isn't an insult, since Kitten is one of my better friends ^-^

Good because that's why i am using the word kitten instead of getting horribly offensive.

This is the appeal to authority.

Now expand on this, I've never heard of this before so explain, I see the quote more or less being an appeal to martyrdom if anything... but explain what an appeal to authority is and why it is what it is in that quote.

Here's the misrep

How is it a misrep when you legitimately said that anyone who hops on the proverbial wave (wagon) on you is scum? That concludes that anyone who currently votes you or is voting you is scum

Proof

Thus, scum would be HAPPY to jump on my wagon under the guise of "following the policy lynch".

You don't need to state it. All you need is to jump on, and ride the proverbial wave.

-Hiraki

How is LLD a horrible addition? How is she overconfident?

For the first part.. have you read any of my posts?
For the second part... have you read any of her posts? (Especially the beginning ones)

So...you want a good scumhunter dead?

Talking about misreps... -_-

She's said all of this, if not most of it in her posts. And I am 100% sure that's correct.

Ok one simple question... show me where she's shown my backpedaling.

Who is all of us btw?

What you talking about

Why did you ignore your section in 872?

[silverbullet999]

Toog... are we really gonna forget the fake hammer I performed...

At least one scum is on my wagon and LLD needs to die when I flip town.

[silverbullet999]

-LLD

Your entire case is now Ad Hom based upon my ability as a player.

Why are you so afraid to attempt to prove me wrong with evidence... why do you not supply explanations... why are you constantly quoting tells without providing any proof whatsoever, nor explanation, whenever I ask you to provide me evidence?

[silverbullet999]

-Hiraki
If you try to answer a question directed at LLD ONE more time I WILL go APE SHIT on you...
Your quote wall is completely ignoring my response to it..

No, in fact I'm still ignoring you.

This is fiction else you would have stfu and stopped quoting shit and pretending to build a further bs case on me and stopped defending LLD.

That doesn't make you town or scum. It just gives information. Sure, you could consider it a pro-town move, but right now you look horrible.

It has everything to do with what Toog said, especially since he's basing this on old days thus far and not current from what I got... Stop trying to discredit me when it has literally nothing to do with you.
Furthermore...

Also, I'm going to label Toog as town for the appeal. I couldn't see Silver trying to get a scumbuddy to help him.

How is Toog helping me?

You're not reading/caring about LLD's posts and it's quite apparent.

FURTHER BULLSHIT ELSE I WOULDN'T BE QUOTING HER POSTS AND ASKING ABOUT THEM

Lastly ... ANSWER THIS NOW BECAUSE OF ALL THE THINGS YOU LOVED READING IN THAT POST YOU DECIDED TO IGNORE THIS...

Ok one simple question... show me where she's shown my backpedaling.

I WONDER WHY THAT IS

[silverbullet999]

-Hiraki

Really? No, I thought I would've just modkilled you at this point. Because I can do that.

What's the point of this?

Yes, but again, you're basing one action to be your poster when you already have 100 bad things.

Stop misrepping me.. He hasn't considered the "100 bad things"
Let's requote what your ignoring... BOLD for emphasis

It has everything to do with what Toog said,

especially since he's basing this on old days thus far and not current from what I got...

Stop trying to discredit me when it has literally nothing to do with you.

But you're obviously missing the point and forgetting the one before it on almost every occasion.

Simply.. no

While LLD doesn't give any concrete answers in a post, the answer can be easily seen in your post, #811.

and before...

She's said all of this, if not most of it in her posts. And I am 100% sure that's correct.

Backpedal much?

That's how LLD works by now, if you haven't noticed.

Btw., why are you only caring about Backpedaling and not the other parts of the list? Y'know, you usually want to take everything out, rather than one little tiny thing.

and If you haven't notice I have a problem with that mentality
I'm not only caring about the backpedaling and if you read what I post... which you have... I care about everything else and am refuting them... though you continously try to regurgitate the same excuses to defend her.

Why are you defending points that LLD brought up... why aren't you bringing up points of your own... why are you fully leeching from LLD's case and why are you trying so desperately to discredit me on things that are directed towards others...?

[silverbullet999]

You're missing the point too many times for me to give an effort at this.

... What magical point have i missed hiraki...

[silverbullet999]

-Hiraki

To put it simply, I'm done arguing with you, because your posts are becoming less and less about the game, and more and more about LLD's reasonings suck

Where have I simply said... LLD'S reasonings suck suck suck suck suck... because they suck!

Answer: I haven't. I've asked time and again for evidence of said claims and your pissed because i haven't been lynched yet and am showing how hypocritical and evasive you've become...

-LLd
I'm also loving your constant ignoring of my questions.. Wonderful and constant ranting of LYNCH SILVER ALREADY

-Twisted
List of reads (I don't have any confident town reads... sing and others defending me could easily be scum buddying with me... I do feel at least one scum is on my wagon though (or at least will be))

Number58 - neutral, he's been dead for awhile...
ConfidAnon Toogeloo - neutral, I want to know if his reads change as he continues to read the game
Twistedspoon - neutral, you could be either scum playing it safe or townie legitimately looking for more information
Hiraki - scum, he's ignoring the contradictions that he himself states and i bring up and is literally parroting lld
Nobody Special - slight town, he's acting like he normally does... nothing strong though on him either way
boberz HackerHuck Lady Lambdadelta - slight scum, I hate her attitude simply put and her failure to address my issues and just more or less chants lynch this obv scum... annoys me to say the least... regardless needs to die next because she (as stated before) is gonna be shitty for this town.
silverbullet999 - martyring VT...
bvoigt - neutral, not digging his unexplained vote
Nachomamma8 - neutral, he hasn't done anything scummy this game.. but hasn't done much for town either.. stated he'd possibly take over this thread but hasn't done an action since
Furcolow - slight town, he's earned town points after our argument and though crazy I sort of like him
singersigner - neutral, basically could be buddying scum or a townie with actual sense but if I had to say one way or another I'd say slight town.
Pim Hero764 - neutral, dead man that hasn't said much
Klazam - neutral, another dead man that's being replace by kublai who has yet to comment

[silverbullet999]

-Twisted
After a game I was in called There Will Be Bloodshed
stating a strong town read would more or less probably be hazardous and risk confirmation bias.

[silverbullet999]

-Hiraki

Considering I was in that game, no.

Then why was pine alive for the whole game... cause oh yeah mastin shouted Townie Townie to his dying breath..

stop being an idiot... stop trying to discredit me...

[silverbullet999]

-LLD
Just curious... how are you so certain... like.. it seems 100% certain... i'm scum? If you aren't actually scum... the real scum have got to be having one hell of a laugh from this...

[silverbullet999]

Also 924 is idiotic in and of itself... for one i'm going to flip town thus singer is going to win town points that I'm not fully sure she deserves...
Also... you really gotta read the end of day 0.5... hiraki defended meran and flat out stated he's town like no tomorrow and what did meran flip?

Good job catching up..

[silverbullet999]

-LLD
Yay you successfully ignore

how

are you so certain

by just simply stating "silver you are scum"
and completely ignore

Also 924 is idiotic in and of itself... for one i'm going to flip town thus singer is going to win town points that I'm not fully sure she deserves...
Also... you really gotta read the end of day 0.5... hiraki defended meran and flat out stated he's town like no tomorrow and what did meran flip?

[sarcasim]You are literally my favorite player of all time...[/sarcasim]

Preview
-Singer

Gee thanks, Silver, lol.

There will be blood literally mindscrewed me and I can't be sure of anyone anymore... sowwi? <3

[silverbullet999]

Are you fucking kidding me?

How many times do I have to show you my case on you?

How. Many. Times.

I QUESTIONED YOUR KITTEN CASE AND YOU REFUSE TO KITTEN ANSWER THOSE KITTEN QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE REPEATEDLY ASKED YOU TO ANSWER... YOU KITTEN KITT!

[silverbullet999]

AND YAY FOR FURTHER COMPLETELY IGNORING MY SECOND POINT... OMFG

[silverbullet999]

-LLD
YOU ARE SO FULL OF KITTEN KITT YOU KITT.

YOU ARE STILL IGNORING THE KITTEN SECOND POINT, ARE YOU EVEN READING IT!?

ONE EXAMPLE EASILY.. SHOW ME WHERE YOU KITTEN SHOWN WHERE THE KITTEN I HAVE KITTEN BACKPEDALED

PREVIEW EDIT:
POST 887 YOUR SECTION
POST 872 YOUR SECTION

(OBVIOUSLY SOME BITS REPEAT AND SOME YOU DID ANSWER... NOW ANSWER THE KITTEN REST AND IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHICH PARTS I'LL GLADLY GET SPECIFIC)

[silverbullet999]

YOU HAVEN'T PROVIDED ANY DEFENSE FOR YOUR MISREP OR YOUR LYING ABOUT YOUR REASONING BEHIND YOUR VOTE.

ARE YOU KITTEN BLIND!?!?!?!?!?

How is it a misrep when you legitimately said that anyone who hops on the proverbial wave (wagon) on you is scum? That concludes that anyone who currently votes you or is voting you is scum

Proof LLD said
Thus, scum would be HAPPY to jump on my wagon under the guise of "following the policy lynch".

You don't need to state it. All you need is to jump on, and ride the proverbial wave.

I TOLD YOU MY REASON FOR THE VOTE, IT WAS REACTION... LIKE I'VE DONE FOR QUITE A BIT OF THIS GAME... YOU DON'T WANT TO BELIEVE IT FOR WHATEVER KITTEN REASON

But I'll oblige and show you your backpedaling.

NO YOU KITTEN SHOW ME WHERE YOU SHOWED THAT I WAS BACKPEDALING BECAUSE YOU STATED YOU'VE DONE ALL OF THIS ALREADY WHEN YOU OBVIOUSLY KITTEN HAVENT

[silverbullet999]

AND YOU ARE STILL IGNORING THE VERY IMPORTANT SECOND POINT I BROUGHT UP... DO YOU THINK I'M LIEING ABOUT PAST EVENTS!?

LOUD NOISES

[silverbullet999]

post 994... you ignore me further YAY least you now unintentially admit that you NEVER stated this before even though you claimed you have...

But you NEVER POSTED WHAT YOUR OPINION OF THE REACTION YOU GOT WAS

False

I stated this way back when

WRONG
your first reaction was simply stating "No Reason?" and then further state "to give me rope as well as furc and number58" (who in all your posts before you had literally stated Nothing about him.)

I notice this and further pursue said reason and you give me a reason which i give my thoughts on, shortly after you don't respond to that thus I reveal it being a reaction test...

how quick you are to immediately call someone scum (though hilariously you take it back for now on furc) disturbs me.

You then state that me revealing that I wanted your reaction was bullshit and i'm scum... which I question because why the fuck would I want to reveal that I'm looking for your reaction when I was still seeking it.. then you say it was refuted and I ask you to expand.. then you say it's refuted because scum would be happy to hop on a policy lynch under the guise of "following the policy lynch", I ask for where I state this and you then say Oh nope, all you need to do is hop on and ride the proverbial wave. Thus the main reason why i'm scum is because I voted you cause you are paranoid as hell about your wagon...

bold for emphasis

There's a reason I'm not discussing that second point with you.
I'm not going to base my own reads off of your biased opinions.
This is about YOU being scum. Not about deflecting attention to Hiraki.
Which BTW, is super scummy. You're trying ot deflect attention off you and onto Hiraki. Scum maneuver.

FALSE.. misrep now? You are really getting desperate... Im pointing out the complete hypocrisy you have when calling out singer for chainsaw defending when hiraki did the SAME EXACT thing and WE KNOW that meran ended up being scum... HOW is that a biased opinion from stating fact.. do you want me to quote where hiraki repeatedly says this?

And you know what? From now on my response to you yelling at me to show you things you have done is going to be met with "Read my ISO. Read my posts."

I'd prefer you say "I'm full of kitt and am an utter arrogant kitten."

[silverbullet999]

-LLD

how quick you are to immediately call someone scum

is

NEVER POSTED WHAT YOUR OPINION OF THE REACTION YOU GOT WAS

Learn to read yourself you kitten...

Can i start cursing.. I got to call enigma a dickhead for quite awhile and I want to say so much more to lld...

[silverbullet999]

-LLd
Also yay to admitting your full fledged hypocrisy and complete and utter arrogance and misrep.

And then you posted..and didn't give a reason.

It's almost like what i quoted answers all these questions... wait wait.. the magic is...

your first reaction was simply stating "No Reason?" and then further state "to give me rope as well as furc and number58" (who in all your posts before you had literally stated Nothing about him.) I notice this and further pursue said reason and you give me a reason which i give my thoughts on, shortly after you don't respond to that thus I reveal it being a reaction test...

[silverbullet999]

No, more like you panic and throw out the only excuse you can.

Are you just going to say that i was "panicky" or actually try show that my posts seemed panicky?

Preview:
LLD's post there is just all sorts of bad...

let's get specific with it...

Then why aren't you voting Hiraki?

If he's such obv scum... why are you pushing my lynch over his?

This is just bad... you are literally trying to make it seem like singer said hiraki is scum from this when she obviously didn't ... you are twisting her words... she stated that from your own reasoning you are taking an incredibly hypocritical stance... (deflection. check)

(Also loving that you will respond to this when someone else brings the same point up)

In anycase, I'll consider Hiraki scum if Silver flips scum.

How does considering hiraki scum have anything to do with my flip from the above scenario...

But I don't see Hiraki!scum busing Silver!scum when scum already is down a member.

Again how does this relate at all?

(further deflection. check)

[silverbullet999]

Yo... don't get offensive.. i've held my tongue and you can sure as hell hold yours.

[silverbullet999]

Pressure is too much for ya... noted...

[silverbullet999]

I love how scum literally tries to discredit evidence by calling me an idiot...

Warning, lld be offensive one more time and prepare to be offended

[silverbullet999]

Oh PLEASE. I'm just tired of listening to your repetitive questions that I have answered SO many times before.

What in 957 is a repetitive question...

Bring it hun~

awww baby it'll be brought in one way or another...


this game is so full of irony... but its ok...

[silverbullet999]

in b4 hiraki quotes something i posted to lld, comments on it and further defends lld...

[silverbullet999]

Hiraki... you just stated what calc (mastin) stated in game when pine was being wagoned... that post literally stopped the wagon on pine and got confirmation bias on him practically... and he ended up being scum... what point are you trying to prove?

[silverbullet999]

-Hiraki
If I had said Kublai is a super strong town read for me... and i'd be heavily surprised if he's scum... and I get lynched flip town... your more inclined to believe it and leave him be... I don't want that.. nor do i have a super strong town read on anyone..

I never called LLD kitten.. i replace curse words with kitten or kitt...

What was LLD's supposed typo btw?

Learn to read

Is LLD seriously making that argument.. @977 and i'm also utterly surprised she didn't say the same to me.. but oh wait she's not reading so I guess I shouldn't be surprised...

Preview

NS, how about some reasons for your vote?

LOL IRONY

[silverbullet999]

-Bvoi

but I also have a scum read on Silver.

Can I ask you to expand on this? if your simply gonna state cause your scum and an idiot then nevermind...

-LLD

How is it irony? I told you I would be checking everyone on my wagon for reasoning.

You... seriously don't see the irony? read my iso.

[silverbullet999]

-Hiraki
Same to you... double actually... it's not hard to look one page back and read her post...

[silverbullet999]

-bvoi
yay! now i'm going to attempt to reply and hopefully we can debate about the reasoning
Flailing is opinion based not really sure how to argue that so I won't try... however

I also like Toogeloo's reasoning in #879.

I must retort with

Toog... are we really gonna forget the fake hammer I performed...

as Toog says in 879

It looks like he basically said, "Well I tried to save my scum buddy, but I need to look like I was part of this lynch to gain more town cred."

If thats the case, whats the motivation of the fake hammer

Thus I ask you to expand on your view of this on what I would consider a discrepancy...

[silverbullet999]

-Hiraki

Going back to the fake hammer is backpedaling btw.

Backpedaling.. from what exactly...

Who's scum Silver?

Read my iso


I like LLD's system

[silverbullet999]

-Bvoi

And your interactions during the rest of the day, which are more difficult to fake, do seem scummy.

May I ask you to expand on this?

-Hiraki
had you even taken the initiative to even glance at my iso you'd easily see it...

Number58 - neutral, he's been dead for awhile...
ConfidAnon Toogeloo - neutral, I want to know if his reads change as he continues to read the game
Twistedspoon - neutral, you could be either scum playing it safe or townie legitimately looking for more information
Hiraki - scum, he's ignoring the contradictions that he himself states and i bring up and is literally parroting lld
Nobody Special - slight town, he's acting like he normally does... nothing strong though on him either way
boberz HackerHuck Lady Lambdadelta - slight scum, I hate her attitude simply put and her failure to address my issues and just more or less chants lynch this obv scum... annoys me to say the least... regardless needs to die next because she (as stated before) is gonna be shitty for this town.
silverbullet999 - martyring VT...
bvoigt - neutral, not digging his unexplained vote
Nachomamma8 - neutral, he hasn't done anything scummy this game.. but hasn't done much for town either.. stated he'd possibly take over this thread but hasn't done an action since
Furcolow - slight town, he's earned town points after our argument and though crazy I sort of like him
singersigner - neutral, basically could be buddying scum or a townie with actual sense but if I had to say one way or another I'd say slight town.
Pim Hero764 - neutral, dead man that hasn't said much
Klazam - neutral, another dead man that's being replace by kublai who has yet to comment

[silverbullet999]

EBWOP
Also glad you didn't specify what I was backpedaling from.. hip hip... hurray!

[silverbullet999]

-Hiraki

Taken what you've said in some posts as well, do you see a problem here?

Like with the number of scum reads you have?

You mean me being treated similarly by you and/or LDD? no I don't see the problem

I have two scum reads in that iso... you as scum and LDD as slight scum... (and whaddya know.. there's 2 scum left...) even if I had more or less scum reads what would be the problem with this?

-LLD

No, I want your reasoning.

Oh my god this game.

THIS. GAME.

[silverbullet999]

EBWOP
Also glad you didn't specify what I was backpedaling from.. hip hip... hurray!

Still holding true woot!

[silverbullet999]

Number58 -

neutral

, he's been dead for awhile...
ConfidAnon Toogeloo -

neutral

, I want to know if his reads change as he continues to read the game
Twistedspoon -

neutral

, you could be either scum playing it safe or townie legitimately looking for more information
Hiraki -

scum

, he's ignoring the contradictions that he himself states and i bring up and is literally parroting lld
Nobody Special -

slight town

, he's acting like he normally does... nothing strong though on him either way
boberz HackerHuck Lady Lambdadelta -

slight scum

, I hate her attitude simply put and her failure to address my issues and just more or less chants lynch this obv scum... annoys me to say the least... regardless needs to die next because she (as stated before) is gonna be shitty for this town.
silverbullet999 -

martyring VT

...
bvoigt -

neutral

, not digging his unexplained vote
Nachomamma8 -

neutral

, he hasn't done anything scummy this game.. but hasn't done much for town either.. stated he'd possibly take over this thread but hasn't done an action since
Furcolow -

slight town

, he's earned town points after our argument and though crazy I sort of like him
singersigner -

neutral

, basically could be buddying scum or a townie with actual sense but if I had to say one way or another I'd say slight town.
Pim Hero764 -

neutral

, dead man that hasn't said much
Klazam -

neutral

, another dead man that's being replace by kublai who has yet to comment

I count 2... so... whom else am I calling scum? Quotes would help but it seems you don't want to feel bothered. Also again what's the problem at having more than two scum reads?

And yes, I did read your ISO. You do it directly, and indirectly.

Then if you read it.. you shouldn't have a problem quickly locating it and quoting it.

Also glad you Still didn't specify what I was backpedaling from..

[silverbullet999]

-Hiraki

And yes I did.

Ctrl f back, nope no match found in your posts...

I shouldn't but it's 11:20

You should since you said

I've read your ISO, and I want you to see your own fault.

-LDD

The bolded line reads like you think I am town, but are lynching me on policy.

No, learn to read, read my posts, read my iso.

[silverbullet999]

The bolded line reads like

you

think I am town, but are lynching me on policy.

... idiot

[silverbullet999]

then 1012 should say
The bolded line reads like

Silver

think

s

I am town, but

is

lynching me on policy.

Your ignorance... humors me.

Also I feel like you've mentioned this before... o... you did.

[silverbullet999]

JUST DIE IN A FUCKING FIRE, SO I DON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH YOUR INCOMPETENT ASS ANY MORE.

Isn't the fact that you are dealing with me and failed at getting a quick lynch of me.. more or less showing i'm competent?

[silverbullet999]

twat.

Gonna ask again that you cool it with this

Why would town ever want to quick lynch?

They wouldn't

More misrepresentation.

Mmmmm

People who need rope: Furc, Silverbullet, Number58

too lazy to get more but you get the point.

[silverbullet999]

too lazy to get more but you get the point.

[silverbullet999]

Now stop comparing sick sizes and help me lynch this scum, Kay~?

If you are literally going to make me go through your whole iso i'm gonna call you a c.

[silverbullet999]

You're stretching SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo badly.

[silverbullet999]

Alright I'm done clogging this thread with you

However... ATE so hard.

[silverbullet999]

ebwop:

Alright I'm done clogging this thread with you *for now*

[silverbullet999]

-Tooge
Any change in your other reads?

[silverbullet999]

Ya know what.. an eye for an eye.. if your getting personal.. so will i.

Spoiler: Silver's OffTopic Rage

Spoiler: Lambda's OffTopic Rage
I see you've postponed your retirement.

You really shouldn't do that. The faster you leave, the better this site gets.

You're useless and all you do is try and piss people off. You don't scumhunt, and you don't help town. All you do is fuck about and be an asshole.

Go the fuck away. I don't want to deal with your shit anymore.

You do realize HOW HYPOCRITICAL you are right? The worst i've recieved this game basically is hiraki saying i'm annoying. Singer has told you of how she doesn't like you being insulting and I've warned you a few times now. You however get extremely personal and insulting and when I give you just a little bit of your own medicine you cry like a fucking bitch. If you are somehow a townie in this game you are the ABSOLUTE WORST FUCKING PLAYER I HAVE EVER FUCKING MET. You are Literally the Biggest OverConfident Arrogant Fucking Cunt that I have ever had to deal with. You Literally have just about screamed this whole game that I'm scum and when I've asked you time and again for reasons you say FUCK OFF YOUR AN IDIOT AND YOUR SCUM Like an arrogant piece of shit. I can't wait for me to prove how wrong you are and show you how much of a stupid fucking arrogant asshole you really are. Whoever suggested you replace in this game should be shot and the day you leave this forum is a day that should be sketched into history and celebrated yearly.

Now go make me a sandwich and stop bitching and moaning like a fucking typical sorority slutbag.

/rant

[silverbullet999]

-Bvoi

This is also true.

...

I just noticed something, BTW...before this, you were calling Nacho out for not delivering content. Why did you change your mind?

I called him out in post 338, afterwards he delievered his case on meran etc...

---

Lol at being called it, apparently i'm a creature from the black lagoon.

#1043 does make me want to prove you so incredibly wrong though... anyone wanna work a deal... I'll gladly self vote at this point if it's guaranteed you make LLD the second lynch if I flip town.

[silverbullet999]

SB: In your 872 you state you are a townie, what is the point in even saying that in this setup?

To prove the point as to why she's hazardous...

anyone wanna work a deal... I'll gladly self vote at this point if it's guaranteed you make LLD the second lynch if I flip town.

Still holds true

[silverbullet999]

Let me say that again. It's playing against your win condition to advocate your own lynch. Regardless of alignment, besides survivor.

Incorrect to martyr oneself as town (especially VT) to get a scum (or someone who is horrible for this town if previous is somehow not true) lynched the next day is playing FOR your win condition.

[silverbullet999]

*twiddles thumbs*

[silverbullet999]

-Tooge
question
What happened with this

I'm heading to bed. Will post reasonings and interpretations in the morning.

Also

Twistedspoon would be my third guess for scum based on the last few pages, some of his posts just don't sound right. Nobody else really sticks out to me.

unvote; vote: Twistedspoon 'kay.

Eh?

-LLD

And I'm actually going to apologize to this game for being a raging bitch.
I'm just gonna try and be more diplomatic about it and not blow up on the thread again.

UNVOTE:
If your holding true to this then you may become useful. I apologize for my insults to you too if you are being truthful.

VOTE: Hiraki

[silverbullet999]

-Hiraki

Where are those contradictions?

Seriously? reread my posts... and then your responses where you more or less just call me an idiot and obvious scum... then I further claim bullshit and you more or less ignore it.

[silverbullet999]

-Hiraki
I'll get to you eventually

-LLD

I don't like this SS lynch without a Silver flip...

How does my flip affect SS's lynch?

[silverbullet999]

-LLD
... if I flip scum you made your feelings apparent...
now if I flip town what happens... that is what I wanted to know...

-Hiraki

You can't make a decent case on me, so don't bother.

First your asking for it... now you don't want me to bother... which is it... and why are you switching your mind about it.

[silverbullet999]

YOU'RE NOT EVEN VOTING ME ANYMORE,

I am... you should rea... ummmm nevermind ...

[silverbullet999]

-Hiraki

IF YOU WANT OTHER HUMANS OR USERS TO VOTE YOU, YOU SHOULD MAKE A CONVINCING CASE ON ME.

wait, what? Convincing case on you = I want others to vote... me?

[silverbullet999]

-Hiraki

YOU GET MY FUCKING POINT.

So is that an admittance of a typo... or a slip?

Slip explanation
(wifom warning)
*delves into Hiraki's mind... a scary place indeed*
" I'll demand silver's case on me, and when he presents it, it will surely suck and I will laugh, claim it all lies/stretches/bullshit and whatnot, and then counter to attempt to get the wagon back on to silver. Thus all he needs to do is make a "convincing case" on me and I'll get people to vote him. "
*exits Hiraki's mind, slightly scarred*
(/wifom warning)

[silverbullet999]

-Hiraki

If you wanted people to get off your wagon you should defend yourself of why they're going to join your wagon. Not point out your pro-town actions. Makes me think more about Silverscum.

I'm going to kick you in the face if you 1. really think I gave up, 2. pointed out pro-town actions in general... I BROUGHT THAT UP SPECIFICALLY TO TOOG YET YOU ALL BUTTED IN... AND THEN BVOI USED TOOG'S REASONS MORE OR LESS TO HOP ON MY WAGON.

[silverbullet999]

-Hiraki

THIS VOTE ISN'T MOVING NOW, AND I WILL BE COMPLETELY SURPRISED IF YOU'RE SCUM.

You really have the most interesting 'typos'...

-LLD

-LLD
... if I flip scum you made your feelings apparent...
now if I flip town what happens... that is what I wanted to know...

*ahem*.... *ahem*

-Singer

Who's flip do you think will bring the town the MOST information, super scummy or not?

Twisted / Hiraki for the moment.

[silverbullet999]

-LLD
IN RELATION TO SINGER

[silverbullet999]

-LLD

Ongoing game that just ended.

May I see the link to this game?

[silverbullet999]

I feel like I'm seeing slight similarities between that linked game and here with these interactions with number58...

Number58 you come back.. right now!

[silverbullet999]

-NS
Why'd you make the switch to my wagon. Details please

[silverbullet999]

-singer

Mod, I'll be V/LA from 4/28-5-1.

I'll be back later tonight with some thoughts before I'm gone.

Where are these thoughts...

[silverbullet999]

-Hiraki
@1298 <3

-Singer
... Well think them alreadyyyyy

[silverbullet999]

VOTE: NobodySpecial

[silverbullet999]

twisted has posted lots in other games but not here...

VOTE: twisted

That's L-1

I'd like to NOT see a hammer until may3rd...

Nobody, where are youuu

[silverbullet999]

-Dearest Nobody...

-NS
Why'd you make the switch to my wagon. Details please

------
This is not the Town Nobody that I know and love... not that I don't love Nobody <3... but still...

[silverbullet999]

@mod: Can we get prods on the players who haven't posted in awhile, one of them includes Nacho? Danke Schen

[silverbullet999]

*hesitantly asks*
-LLD

I still don't like the TS wagon TBH.

Could you expand on this with reasons if you don't mind?

[silverbullet999]

-Nobody Special

Okay, so silverbullet has chosen not to answer my question about waiting until May 3. I still don't get why he'd want to wait -- last minute lynches are usually less than desirable, and can be screwed up more often than not. Smells like scum tying to engineer a no-lynch. Or trying to steer suspicion off a buddy. Even though it may be a buddy he's bussing. Scum get desperate near deadline sometimes, and this could be what we're seeing.

Are... are you serious? and that was a legitimate question? and speaking of unanswered questions... for the THIRD time now

-NS
Why'd you make the switch to my wagon. Details please

-----
Also I OBJECT
There's no point in rushing and I'd like to see Twisted say last words.. I'm figuring that's twisted didn't just want to say, does nacho think i'm town? There seems like a point should be had in it.

[silverbullet999]

-Nobody
Problem...

And I am not going to give you details. I read that bullshit 40-page argument between you and LLD once, and that was twice too many. Suffice to say, you came out losing that one.

First read you did apparently had me winning, second read you did apparently had me losing, what caused the switch.

I'd rather hammer now. But I'll give him a day. Just for you.

You will hammer no earlier than May 02 5:31 pm Mafia time.

[silverbullet999]

LLD hammered 5 minutes before my deadline.. she's scum.

No but really

VOTE: Nobody Special

[silverbullet999]

*sees hiraki's case*



... though I still like NS first...

-Nacho
Who you want lynched?

[silverbullet999]

Nacho's lack of response is reminding me of a certain twisted person...

But Nobody... is.... Nobody...

grrr

[silverbullet999]

finee nobody next morning if nacho's not scum

VOTE: Nacho cheese

[silverbullet999]

Nacho picks his man, then he dies, then (if nacho flips town) the man he picks dies, then we go from there.

*stares at watch*

[silverbullet999]

Hah, VICTORY

I actually enjoyed this game for the most part. I'd actually gladly play with you all again (though i'm sure the same is not felt in reversed for some )