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Vote: Jason

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I think VP over reacted to Quilford's town read of me. KK kinda latched on there as well but not as strongly. That wagon was pretty bad.

Jason's xvart vote was terrible but his posting after that feels more townish to me, so we'll see where that goes.

Vi's pressure on Lew is good, Xvart's deflection back to Quilford is not.

Vote: Xvart

Not quite ready to place Lew at L-1 at this point.

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You're really that gullible, Sotty? since when?

lol You can stop this right now.

Well when I read what he said about my vote I thought it was pretty weak and silly really. If anything I think it was his way of agreeing with my gut vibes on Jason's first post. What I don't see is how quickly you build the bridge from silly to scummy. Quliford wasn't trying to say I'm confirmed town or anything, and it's not like it's a read that's locked in. From what I have seen of Quliford he does this kinda thing, it's a null tell. But you were all over it like it was a massive thing. I don't see it. I think you blew it up.

Jason, I feel you over justified a throw away random vote, just twinged my gut which is why I voted you. I like to figure you out ASAP so I know if we can team up to destroy the world or not.

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Buddying how? Quilscum/metown?

Only scum are gonna have town reads at that point in the game because they know who the town is.

This isn't strictly true. The reads just won't be very strong.

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Well, I'm operating under the premise that whoever has Roxie can vote in secret since no one has fessed up to having that pet. If it's a public vote, then clearly what I said is moot. If no one comes forward to claim Roxie, then I think it's worth being cautious around.

I feel funny about this post. It reads like passive aggressive rolefishing to me. I'm not ok with someone going 'I have Roxie and my pet can vote', particularly since if Roxie is in the votecount, we should be able to see where Roxie's vote is.

So you are happy there is a potential unclaimed vote out there? You realize it doesn't matter that we can see this vote if we don't know who is using it and why.

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So let me get this straight, you're voting Quilford because he didn't further elaborate on his read of me, yes?

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It was page one of the game. What more could

"Sotty reads town Vote: The same person she is voting"

mean other than Quilford also agreed with my initial gut scum read of Jason?

Expecting him to have a whole slew of reasons for an early game read outside this one thing, is pretty freaking mind blowing to me at this point.

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Well you were trying to goad/bully me initially. So I do agree with that comment.

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So your vote on Jason here was not RVS but a "gut scum read"? I know gut reads are by definition hard to explain, but I have a hard time swallowing that you had a gut scum read on anyone based on one purely RVS post.

Yup I had a gut scum read off one post. Gulp it down.

Again, I don't really care about Quilford's vote. It is the lack of explanation when the explanation was supposedly so simple, plus the fact that anyone could have any sort of read on Jason based on his first post. Trying to explain that post as having any affiliation to alignment is ridiculous, and in this context, scummy.

So... I'm scummy for finding Jason's first post in this game scummy? Your logic is getting really poor here. Every single post has a bearing on a players alignment. Also why didn't you pick on this apparently scummy move from me when I first mentioned it?

Amrun's post is ugh, I'm not seeing xvart town or glowball town for that matter. She seems very skittish which is giving me some light scum reads.

The point was to look town.
More specifically to be transparent about my reactions to THE UNIVERSE.

inb4towniesdon'tneedtobeworriedaboutlookingtown

Why are you still voting Reck Llama?

Also Vi is always one looking for a prompt lynch Lew, it's not scummy to me. Do you have any other scum reads? You seem to be whining a lot instead of actually scum hunting.

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Vi is scum because she was pushing you?

I don't get it.

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You're really reaching xvart.

How many posts have to happen before people are allowed for form reads?

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I have less issue with Lew's claim than I do with his actual behavior. He keeps saying the case on him is built on nothing and yet his vote on Vi seems completely out of spite rather than anything else. I don't know why Lew was asking for another dog claim when we had one early in the day, one he singled out and talked directly down to.

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If we outlaw guns, then only criminals will have vigs.
Or something.
Basically if we say NEVAR LYNCH A VIG D1 vig instantly becomes the best D1 claim for scum because making D1 scumlynch impossible slants gameodds SIGNIFICANTLY in scum's favor.
And then there's the whole 'he changed his claim' thing.
I haven't actually read yet though. So I'll be doing that soon.

Yo Amrun. How about we lynch Llama instead of Jason?

Lewarcher also has done surprisingly minimal scumhunting for somebody under so much pressure and interacting significantly with the game.
Sometimes being under attack kind of freezes up scumhunting and engages defense-mode, I guess.

Please direct me to the scum hunting you have done in this thread. All I have seen is you set up spec'ing and promising to read. The game isn't even that long and you seem to be up to date.

lewarcher as some kind of "dog that hates cats SK" is starting to look more and more plausible. Get rid of all the cats in the game and achieve third party wincon.

Hehe, D1 SK speculation is such an awesome scumtell.
May actually be warranted here though since that's kinda a good point.
What kind of setup with an SK could make sense? 1 v 4 v 11? Sounds painful for town but I suppose this is likely a PR-loaded game.

Are you kidding me with this?

Vote: Llama

Delayed reads are delayed, doesn't make me feel any better about your start in this game.

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Excellent.

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Llama's vote has been almost as useless as he has this whole game.

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Oh dear...

Any role that claims to be able to kill another player can be generally referred to as a vig. Yes he hasn't claimed that he is a straight up vig, but to say he is a strange kinda role cop is just all sorts of wrong.

Role cops don't kill people.

Vigs kill people.

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Multiple animals is a sticker, but pets other than cats or dogs would just result in nothing happening surely?

I still think the biggest thing is that he asked for

another

dog claim when we already had one.

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I'm still not understanding why you want to give him a night of mafia-talking.

1) He posted something suspicious and got called on it.
2) He flustered under questioning and tried to mountanize something minor as a desperate distraction.
3) Made a false claim.
4) OMGUSed his main accuser as scum (and no one else)
5) Changed his claim.
6) Changed flavor of claim to match details that didn't make sense.
7) Avoided answering direct questions about his claim that didn't make sense.
8) Heavily pushing a "just let me live one night" plan when his role clearly isn't helpful enough to warrant that plan even if his claim wasn't crap to begin with.

How are you *that* blind to his scumminess?

This is probably the most compelling case on why we should lynch Lew, his behavior leading up to and after the claim is just terrible. Making excuses to keep him alive "just in case" seem poor when Lew himself isn't willing to actually do anything to help the town.

Yes, this is an intent to hammer.

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I also hate that the last page or so has been heavy in the set up spec. I feel Lew is totally distracting us all from scum hunting and instead we'll bicker about "optimal strategies".

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But now I'm actually uncomfortable lynching him. .______________.

Why?

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SOTTY HELP

I think we need to hear from Lew. I understand where you are coming from because that was my initial reaction to the quote about killing cats. The more I read the more I could see it as a slip from Lew where he forgot the flavor and made a quick post without checking. I don't think it is overly damming as some people do though.

Still you are over defending him a bit here, even if I think you are coming from a good place. I really want to see what Lew has to say about it all and I feel like you are giving him ammo.

And I'm not losing my scum vibes from Llama at all.

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Huh....

No announcement?

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Hammer is in hand.

BUT... I kinda wanna see if Lew comes back and even tries to defend himself with half the intensity Amrun did.

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Llama, without referring to the role claim, do you think Lew is scum?

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Are you willing to hammer him?

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This is ridiculous. Why are you not answering any of my questions?

I'm being trolled, right?

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lol, dis game.

Jason, you are the only person on glowball while there is three of us on Llama. If you would lynch any of your top three why are you being useless?

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Vote: Llamarble

Yup.

Untrod Tripod is also a good vote for doing nothing but speculate about Lew's claim yesterday.

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Where was that criticism yesterday? Oh, you had to wait until after the flip for it to become a bad thing. Spare me this opportunistic bs.

I re-read some pieces. I had little no idea who you thought was scum, still don't.

Fill me in?

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Where was that criticism yesterday? Oh, you had to wait until after the flip for it to become a bad thing. Spare me this opportunistic bs.

I re-read some pieces. I had little no idea who you thought was scum, still don't.

Fill me in?

Your response is a non sequitar. You didn't call me on role speculation while we were talking about it, you waited until after the flip. That's opportunistic. It seems like you only thought it was an issue when he flipped town.

No.

I called everyone on role/set up spec while it went down if you remember. After the flip I tried to figure out what info it gave me with how people were reacting, I looked at your ISO and saw that you only started pushing on Lew after his claim and then seemed overly focused on the claim itself. I find that scummy.

So I'll ask you again. Who is scum?

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Llama is already so much better today. I like his VP pressure a lot.

Unvote

Exactly, JasonT you are looking for reasons to add to both of us being scum. It's confirmation bias.

Talk me thought what you mean when you say "confirmation bias".

thats how you look for scum, you make connections between people.

When you've had a scum flip sure. You're missing a step here.

Vi and Quil are town. Amrun as well. This is good.

Not sure who I like for scum the most right now. I need to do more re-reading.

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Jason, Amrun, and CES are all very content to let a scummy player with a Vig claim, no matter how limited; do whatever he wants tonight. Noted. It's quite likely one of these players is scum.

What happened to this Ghostlin?

I was actually feeling iffy on Jason, but further reading has him leaning town for me, just townWRONG. The only real twitch I got was him listing a 3rd party in the big catch up post of 426. I would like him to look into Ghostlin and explain the gut scum read though.

The main downside to claiming Census Taker results is probably having to claim Census Taker, so yeah.

Not sure who I like for scum the most right now.

VP

Alright. Who else?

Vote: VP

The way he started this game gave me scum vibes. His whole interaction with Quilford over a early town read feels really fake. I also don't like how he belittles the points Llama brought up against him. He took a similar shot at me early day one by calling me gullible.

UT's first reaction to me mentioning his name today felt really town. But then he continued to dodge posting reads. I really don't like that.

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hahahahahaha, I avoided a Sotty question as well, good to know you're paying attention >_>

You...answered my question. Or are you telling me you fed me a line of crap?

I still think it's the case, and Quilford's census results back this up; scum would be looking for the third party (particularly if they think it's an SK) and would be happy for the easy town cred. I'm leaning towards Jason due to his glowball clusterbomb where he tries to declare her scum with another player.

Okay but I don't get your point. Weren't you the one talking about LewSK yesterday? How would the scum have known there was an SK on day one? If we are to believe Quilford's result, which I do, a four man scum team seems reasonable in a 16 player game give or take powers.

If I was to choose another? CES. Depending on how you read it, the fake governor didn't really do anything for Town last night, it changed no one's mind, and would be wonderful real estate to prove how townie he was today. In fact, and I'll doublecheck the thread, I call him out for the gambit and he's not answered. He's been mute most of day two.

Okay, so why are you voting for Llama, a player who wasn't on this list of “there is scum here”?

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To be fair, when I hear 3rd party I assume SK until proven otherwise. I wouldn't consider that any kind of point.

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Overall VP is poking at logic-holy-things instead of at scummy-things.

This pretty much sums up my feelings on VP.

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Overall VP is poking at logic-holy-things instead of at scummy-things.

This pretty much sums up my feelings on VP.

You said this about me in DDD's game too where I was legitimately scumhunting (and successfully I might add). I think it's a pretty bunk accusation.

umm, you were scum in that game.

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I also disagree you were scum hunting when you killed Sottyrulez in that game. But I'm not going to bicker with you about that here, it's more of a pet peeve of mine when scum or in your case the SK, are peeved they were caught out even though they were scum after all.

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VP I don't care how many scum you caught, the fact is you were scum which means you were playing differently to when you are town. Trying to discount my point because you caught some scum doesn't work. It still fits

your

scum meta which was my point.

I don't think it is a bad case, but it's not a super strong one. Magic mafia and Pie mark two (maybe the later of SA III, but not as much) are all examples of VPscum latching onto things that aren't scummy and NOTEVERLETTINGGO. It's like you need to find something to attack so it looks like you are doing something. As scum you tend to blow things out of proportion, like you did here with Quilford's early town read of me.

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Sotty, let me answer your question with a question: what do you believe is the most likely third party role in this game, plus or minus powers?

I think I have answered this already, a serial killer. Just because that's the most common/coolest 3rd party role.

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Debonair Danny DiPietro's case on Untrod Tripod is insane. Though I do agree with glowball in that I can sorta wrap my head around the concept, but to make a case like that this early in the game is ludicrous. Plus his vague hintings at potential "other reasons" means that he's not seriously looking to lynch Untrod Tripod, he's just looking busy for the cameras.

The thing is, Triple D hasn't

made

a UT case. He was just commenting on me finding him scummy and then people kept poking at his reasoning. Case suggests he's trying to lynch UT which isn't actually happening.

I'm slightly tempted by a possible Ghostlin vote, I haven't liked much of what he has done today. But I think an xvart one would be better.

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UT, is Triple D scum?

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Jason - I don't know what your actual position on lewarcher is since you vacillate throughout that post. Is he town or scum?

I don't get why you think Ghostlin is scum either, can I get the sparknotes version of that?

Neither on instinct, I believe him to be 3rd party but not worth the lynch. We can cut a head of scum and weaken them, rather than lynch a role that can end up killing itself in the night.

Jason, why did you think Lew was 3rd party over mafia?

Also can you elaborate on your Ghostlin read? I'm interested.

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Xvart, I see what you are driving it RE: Llama/Glow/Jason, but what do you think about Amrun and VP's heated back and forth earlier today? At the time neither of them were voting for the other just like Jason and Glow. Is the difference just that you have scum reads on one set of players and not on the others?

Jason needs to get in here and do something. This lurking is making me uneasy and I have a few outstanding questions to him.

Ghostlin, I still don't really know why you are voting for Llama over one of Amrun/Jason/CES who you said very likely contained one scum. I asked you this before but you danced around the question. I would think Lew's town flip would have made this even stronger for you.

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Alright, I guess my 3rd party views on Lew where more because of suggestion from others saying we should lynch etc right away 3rd party. It got me thinking he was 3rd party or at least I did believe he was in anti-town role, just not scum.

I agree he had things to answer, and can understand the push for his lynch however Ghost pushing lets lynch 3rd party now! was off.

Show your working.

Ghostlin, what's your case on Llama? Bullets points will be fine.

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Xvart, I see what you are driving it RE: Llama/Glow/Jason, but what do you think about Amrun and VP's heated back and forth earlier today? At the time neither of them were voting for the other just like Jason and Glow. Is the difference just that you have scum reads on one set of players and not on the others?

Honestly I haven't thought too much about it but I would say I picked up on what I did because of my D1 suspect pool and I think it was a little more obvious from what I recall because jason explicitly said "these two dudes are scum" and voted one and started arguing with the other. I don't recall either VP or Amrun saying at the start of their exchange that the other was scum but I could be wrong.

Well the whole point of the Amrun/VP exchange was that Amrun agreed with Llama and stated VP was scummy.

I think you are tunneling super hard here in that you are finding any reason you can to call Jason and Glow scum together. Jason didn't vote one and then hunt down the other, he voted Llama, further pushed him on replies and it wasn't until Glow showed up with this unhelpful post did the argument start.

To be blunt, I don't get your point at all and I don't see how it is different from what happened between Amrun and VP. It feels like fake scum hunting, picking and preening "facts" that best help your already formed premise.

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Post 753 reasons Ghostlin's Llama vote well enough for me. Although I don't agree that everything he has listed is scummy, (number two for example) but there are other people I would much rather we lynch instead of Ghost. (VP/Llama/Xvart/Glow)

I'm struggling a little because a lot of my scum reads suspect each other. I don't know if that is some kind of major ploy or if I'm just in the wrong ball park or what. It's making me generally uneasy.

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I'd actually rather lynch Jason before Ghostlin at this point.

But behind all those others.

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And furthermore, I find it especially interesting that you are going to all this effort to undermine my scum read of jason when two posts later you even say that you would rather lynch jason over ghostlin. Are you jason's buddy, too? Does jason have a sweet scum PR that you want to save? It seems to fit with the pattern of you jumping in on D1 when I was talking about jason being scum then.

Again, you are missing the point. I have no issue with you finding Jason or Glow scummy the way you are trying to build a case is extremely poor. A pattern for you this game, one that doesn't fit with townXvart. Yes, I saw what you were driving at but it wasn't until I took a closer look at the whole Jason/Llama/Glow exchange did I realize how badly you were misrepping what went down. It doesn't matter that I have varying scum reads on all three of those players, a shit case is a shit case and makes me really want to lynch you.

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I actually would not be averse to trading a Ghostlin wagon for a Llamarble or glowball wagon.

No chance of an Xvart wagon?

If not, I'd join you on a Llama wagon.

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Vote: Llama

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We need to make this game a double lyncher just to get though all these people that need the noose.

I'm not protecting Jason as evidence my questioning of him and willingness to lynch him. Xvart is just interested in getting him lynch any which way as demonstrated by his ridiculous case. I'm interested in finding scum. That's the huge difference between us here.

Vi isn't scum. It's that simple.

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^ Reasons why I shouldn't post right after waking up. Ah you get the jist anyway.

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I tracked Reck to VPB last night.

Why Reck?

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Unvote

for the moment. I really want to believe this claim.

Llama, examples of games you have been in where Reck has fooled you?

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Looking though Reck's ISO, a VP target from him isn't out of the question.

I don't really like a Triple D vote. I had a gut town read on him earlier, well up until he called Jason a bandwagoner.

Xvart/VP/Glow people that I would lynch today.

Vote:Xvart

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And boy was that a flashback when Sotty and VPB were going at each other on D1) and I was hoping for a chance to replace in.

I hope it wasn't as bad as Magician mafia

Welcome saulres, glad to have you aboard. Now we can actually get some content out of a mostly content-less slot.

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And?

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I agree with them.

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Last time I was paying attention to this game, I was under the impression you thought he was p. town overall. How willing are you to lynch him?

Because I said as much. It boils down to him lurking it makes me very uneasy. I feel like he is coasting.

Wait...so now you're bashing xvart for trying to get him lynched?

Nope, that's not why I'm bashing Xvart.

you're either okay with lynching Jason or you're not. I don't know how relevant xvart's reasoning, good or bad, should be to your willingness to move in that direction necessarily.

So just because I have a scum read on someone that means I have to agree with any and all cases made up against this person? Err no, I don't think so VP. Xvart's case on Jason is absolute tosh are you going to disagree?

This puts Xvart at a higher lynch propriety than Jason. Now with Xvart proclaiming I am Jason's partner I feel like he's laying in the ground work for setting me up down the road. Shame it won't shake out for him that way.

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It was just the fact he made a 3rd party section in his reads on day one,

before

we had Quilford's results. I always get a slight twitch when people start throwing out 3rd party. On day one there is no reason you should be looking for 3rd parties.

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Well at the time of that post there was disagreement on lewarcher's alignment, and plenty of people were thinking that lew might have been a 3rd party. Jason had lew under that section, which was called "Leaning scum/Scummy/3rd party". So it's really null.

Perhaps, I just don't like it. But it didn't stop me from reading him as town at the time.

I have played lots and lots of games (and lots and lots....) with Jason and I'm normally pretty good at reading him. Lately he has become aware of the tells he drops which means he can abuse his meta. I really don't like his lurking in this game which is making me nervous. That said, I haven't really seen anyone put forward a Jason case other than say he is scummy, which is an easy thing to do because he's that kinda player and can be easily taken advantage of.

At this point I want to lynch Jason just to see what he flips because I am not feeling very confident on my read of him right now. I realize that is a terrible and selfish reason for wanting to lynch someone when there are so many better options. AKA Xvart and VP. Maaaaybe Glow. But mostly Xvart and VP.

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It was just the fact he made a 3rd party section in his reads on day one,

before

we had Quilford's results. I always get a slight twitch when people start throwing out 3rd party. On day one there is no reason you should be looking for 3rd parties.

Actually, Sotty. I was not the one throwing out 3rd party. It had been discussed many times before I even gave my reads I believe.

Yeah...

Why aren't you more awesome in this game though? I wanted to team up and everything.

Who are your scum reads outside Glow? What is your opinion of Xvart's case on you?

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Well I am willing to team with you Vi. I just think we can do better than Triple D

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What do you think of the rest of the reads I put out some time ago? Off, on, way out there, etc.?

I like this read post the best. Only I would swap Triple D and Ghostlin with VP and Xvart.

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I just really want to lynch VP or Xvart more than anything.

I also just noticed what you did with Jason's SN when I went back and looked at your reads again.

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Oh it wasn't on purpose? I thought the whole 1984 thing was a reference to him being lynch bait approved by Big Brother.

And the question of why I won't vote Triple D? I did have a gut town read of him day one early day two, he's falling as the day goes on but I just think there are better lynches. If for some reason we can't lynch my top two I am willing to follow you down the rabbit hole for the simple fact of being pretty sure you're not mafia and not having a strong argument against hanging Triple D.

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ITT, I read too much into Vi's cleaver sense of humor

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You're right. I'm laying the groundwork for back to back scum lynches. But it's funny you say I'm laying groundwork to get a lynch later on because my observation is the same about you. You think jason and I are both scum but you are wanting to lynch someone already on the wagon of your less priority scum lynch. If I was scum and I was lynched, you would only have one less person to help you lynch your second scum read (jason) tomorrow. And since you haven't drawn any connections between jason and I (at least that I recall) I don't see the logic behind that since you think we are independently scummy in your mind. But I'll make you a deal. We both agree that jason is scum. You help me lynch him today and then you and I can go toe to toe tomorrow on who is his likely partner.

Umm... Jason isn't my second scum read. Are you even reading what I post? He's like 4th at best.

Also I don't scum hunt connections until there has been at least one scum flip. You know, common sense and all that.

If Sotty joins this tasty wagon, the target of which she has repeatedly cast suspicion about but failed to vote

His vote's currently on glowball, isn't it?

Her vote is on Xvart You know, the wagon you claimed wasn't viable

I'd like Amrun to weigh in on Glow. She claimed to be able to read her well, I'd like her thoughts.

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I recall quite well actually. Don't really understand not voting Ghostlin considering...

Well you could try convincing us with a case.

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I meant second tier suspect, despite all your commentary on jason.

I don't see how that works in context.

You're right. I'm laying the groundwork for back to back scum lynches. But it's funny you say I'm laying groundwork to get a lynch later on because my observation is the same about you. You think jason and I are both scum but you are wanting to lynch someone already on the wagon of your less priority scum lynch. If I was scum and I was lynched, you would only have one less person to help you lynch your second scum read (jason) tomorrow. And since you haven't drawn any connections between jason and I (at least that I recall) I don't see the logic behind that since you think we are independently scummy in your mind. But I'll make you a deal. We both agree that jason is scum. You help me lynch him today and then you and I can go toe to toe tomorrow on who is his likely partner.

"All of my commentary" on Jason. Never mind the fact I have probably played more games with him than all of the rest of this player list combined. Which is saying something considering some people here.

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Oh this sucks. Suppose I better read to see what happened to my wagon.

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I expected more posts I guess.

Would still love to see what the case on Ghostlin is...

This.

I recall quite well actually. Don't really understand not voting Ghostlin considering...

Well you could try convincing us with a case.

seem to be doing just fine on my current course of action. You got a problem with the Ghostlin wagon?

Yup. The problem is I don't think he is scum. Also your vote has no backing to it that I see. I gave you a chance to correct that and you didn't.

Unvote, Vote: Jason

I hope you're happy Xvart.

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Jason you're wasting time with this argument when you should be catching up with the game.

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Eh. I still think there are better lynches, yes.

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Good lord. That's it?

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I was commenting on your play these last few days actually.

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So if I am 4th at best... WHY are you voting me?

Deadline.

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Xvart/VP/Glow.

Your lurking puts you over Ghostlin for a comprise vote. Seeing as you two are the only current viable wagons I moved onto you. If you had been active you could have placed your vote on Xvart and we would have had five votes there. So much for him not being viable.

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Sotty, you're really doing shit all right now, so it's pretty hypocritical for you to sit there and rip into jason for a less than impressive catchup.

All I've seen you do the past few days is complain about Ghostlin getting lynched

, while having very little reason to think 'other lynches are better' as far as I can tell. I find it pretty unrealistic that you see his play as that townie.

This hasn't happened. I'm not stopping the Ghostlin lynch, I'm not defending the cases. I asked for clarification and people gave it. It's not a stellar case in my opinion but it's not terrible either. I just prefer a Jason compromise over a Ghostlin one.

I'd hammer Ghostlin in a deadline situation if we needed it.

[Sotty7]

Sotty, you're really doing shit all right now, so it's pretty hypocritical for you to sit there and rip into jason for a less than impressive catchup.

All I've seen you do the past few days is complain about Ghostlin getting lynched

, while having very little reason to think 'other lynches are better' as far as I can tell. I find it pretty unrealistic that you see his play as that townie.

This hasn't happened. I'm not stopping the Ghostlin lynch, I'm not defending the cases. I asked for clarification and people gave it. It's not a stellar case in my opinion but it's not terrible either. I just prefer a Jason compromise over a Ghostlin one.

I'd hammer Ghostlin in a deadline situation if we needed it.

Quite disagree, you've just been passive aggressively saying other people are scummier and blah blah, but you're not really doing anything to rally people to your cause if that's truly your belief. You complaining at Jason for making useless comments is being just as useless given the approaching deadline. If you feel strongly that xvart is scum, why are you not trumpeting that lynch from the rooftops to make it happen? You've been taking pot shots at me, but at least I'm here making a lynch happen on someone who I think is scummy. All I'm saying is that it looks like quite a lot of affectation from you.

lol [/VP impression]

Other people

are

scummier and I

did

rally people to my Xvart cause that eventually collapsed. Am I supposed to sit around with my thumb up my butt and whine about a wagon that clearly isn't going anywhere. Oooor am I going to plunk my vote down on one of the two viable wagons in the face of a deadline that happened to occur around a holiday weekend?

You're making a issue out of nothing here. I took my shot with Xvart and it fell though, now I'm pushing my compromise lynch while you whine that I'm not doing nothing? Does not compute.

If this is your passive aggressive way of getting me to vote Ghostlin, it's not working. You would have had more luck if you had come right out and just asked me, at least Xvart had the balls to do that.

[Sotty7]

Unvote

I will be very surprised if Jason is scum now. I'm just not feeling it at all now. Tone of posts, whatever.

the competing wagon is me???? LOL.

This made me laugh in real life.

[Sotty7]

Is it L-1?

[Sotty7]

lol


...Being you is fun sometimes VP But I'm still reading what I missed. Kinda want a claim too. Tell me why I shouldn't wait for that at least?

[Sotty7]

VP playing the victim pretty much makes this game a must read. I love it.

[Sotty7]

So I'm gonna make a turkey and cheese sandwich for lunch and after I devour it's yumminess I will hammer. I feel waiting for Ghostlin to claim is just delaying the inevitable anyway. So this is more if anyone else has anything to say kinda warning.

[Sotty7]

I can't believe that just happened.

[Sotty7]

I think I love you Tierce.