NY 188: Delicious Mafia II (Post-game chatter)

[ika]

hmmm player base that is mostly unknown to me.........

this should be fun.

[ika]

sala: VI
SW: lleaning scum

[ika]

shinobi is town and text is null-town

[ika]

VOTE: wake

go rvs is over let lynch

[ika]

sala: VI
SW: lleaning scum

shinobi is town and text is null-town

Why to any of these reads?

sala: ongoing and he has some weird perosnal vendetta against me so hes goign to want to attempt a policy on me
SW: entrance
you: dont see scum coming in like that right now
text: the suspicion on you

[ika]

my top

[ika]

now im paranoid of sala

[ika]

.........................

good night im gdonw with this thread probally

[ika]

ok gray is also scum

[ika]

ok gray is also scum

Why?

his continued rvs when there has already been plenty of conten generate to work with

[ika]

text would it help if i said i already knew what lapra role is?

[ika]

How would you know what Lapsa's role is?

simple, its based on how they are playing. you can sometimes tell a lot from a player simpily by reading their post in a certain context

[ika]

And TSO was a Serial Killer. Regardless of alignment, nobody has scared me as much as him. o_o

correction he was an extremly nerfed MM

[ika]

im fine with this turbo lynch as long as we lynch SW or wake next for being obvious scums

[ika]

I didn't realize you were this terrible at reading me ika.

your not doing anything to make me think any diffrent SW

[ika]

I didn't realize you were this terrible at reading me ika.

your not doing anything to make me think any diffrent SW

Oh excuse me, the game's barely begun. You want me to start jumping through hoops? I'm already becoming annoyed at all the garbage scumreads with no reasoning. This kind of shit ruins games for me. I can't even say anything in response to any of it because it's crap or trolling or whatever the fuck it is.

yes i do want you to.

and the funniest thing is your gettting frustrated over nothing. As far as i knwo im the only person who has said such things so you getting frustrated over such simple thing only shows how easy it is to get to you regarless of alignment

[ika]

Sw why not vote him?

[ika]

hmmm i wonder if this could......

nahhhhh

[ika]

like i said hes scum sky.

i mean come on do you not read my posts

[ika]

can we get more votes on wake plz?

[ika]

Ika, its L-1.

Do your thing

A) i was asleep
B) it was not so nice try

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VOTE: wake

sheep me ppl

[ika]

wake is follwoing his scum meta.

[ika]

i also like how silverwolf needs the reason when shes has an fos on wake already doesnt that seem alightly odd

[ika]

i love SW trying to save her scum buddy

[ika]

i love SW trying to save her scum buddy

I thought you were better than this. You make me sad.

Its not sad when you FOS wake and then seem to be defending him now. its acutly quite funny

as for ebign better, i can be but i dont care enough in games

[ika]

whatever SW. keep dodging

[ika]

more votes on wake plz

[ika]

Ika, learn to spell better. Also, your claims against SolverWolf are pretty weak.

no and dont care

[ika]

I hate playing with people like you.

how long have you been playing mafia

Why do you think SW is scum?

meta and how shes going about the gamestate

[ika]

I just noticed creds avi is moving......

cool

[ika]

omg i didnt even noticed that, thats the greatest irony

[ika]

TSO wil you be my in thread mason?

[ika]

yes last game you did the same thing and were yelling ppl were misrepping you and your scum meta when you were scum

[ika]

Yeah I did because pisskop was lying about my meta and being a rude obnoxious jerk to me to try to push me into an emotional state. It's not an alignment tell for me to be bitchy in games.

Skybird has misrepped me twice already when she should know better and I consider that a slight scumtell coming from her.

actualy it is, its just HOW you go about it.

I was watching that game. and you not going a huge OMGUS and rage is what gave pisskop the idea you were scum. i mean iirc there was a game where you were scum that i was modding and you mentioned how you are as scum.

as for sky your not voting her then?

[ika]

cus im voting wake?

[ika]

and read the psot i said its HOW you get frustrated

[ika]

180 you were traitor who didnt know scum mates. thats diffrent form knowing who they are

[ika]

So? 185 was multiball where there was an Sk and another 3 person scumteam. I didn't know who any of them were. I only knew my two scummates. What difference does me knowing or not knowing who the scum are make when it comes to my frustration level in games? That makes zero sense ika.

Cus you have a diffrent set of frustration as town and scum like i have been saying forever

[ika]

Anyway, I still don't get how you are so set on me being scum and yet are still calling for Wake's head.

Why don't you engage him like this?

did i ever say wake was town?

if you were reading me you would see that i think hes also scum

[ika]

Where did I ever say you said Wake was town?

I am reading you. I think you are town because as scum you usually don't give a fuck about the game and here you are putting in an effort to get reads and interact with me.

My question was, why aren't you interacting with Wake since he's the person you are voting for and trying to lynch right now?

cu i dont need to interact with wake to sort him.

also in case you havennot noticed hes not here most of the time

[ika]

The replace probably points to town!SilverWolf.

she has done it as scum in the past but *shrugs*

i should get me town bloc going soon

[ika]

its on the next page the mod says requested

[ika]

i would on normal circumstance agree on SW reaplce out being town but due to the fact she has done it as scum also is why i disagree it should be said shes twon

[ika]

one game is enough to not consider it set.

[ika]

I'm aware, but it's enough to consider the replace inconclusive.

thats what i meant if your responding to me. i think i jsut did wording fails

anyone want to tubo lynch SW so we dont have to get a replcemtn?

[ika]

more votes plz

[ika]

ok so we have singleball with possible sk

hi shniob how are you?

[ika]

Hi ika.

Honestly wake, I know I've had a bit of trouble reading you in the past and I generally don't talk about stuff unless I have a really solid opinion on it, so I was kind of avoiding you for a little bit because I know you tend to fixate on things that I generally ignore for the majority of the game.

If you want to talk about something, talk to me about Quaroath maybe?

what your read on quarth? i wanna talk

[ika]

ok i see why shinobi want to talk about quarth, what you think of him right now?

[ika]

Hi ika.

Honestly wake, I know I've had a bit of trouble reading you in the past and I generally don't talk about stuff unless I have a really solid opinion on it, so I was kind of avoiding you for a little bit because I know you tend to fixate on things that I generally ignore for the majority of the game.

If you want to talk about something, talk to me about Quaroath maybe?

what your read on quarth? i wanna talk

I think he's kinda scummy.
I thought his scumread on Gray was kinda bosh. I commented on it here

What are you thinking?

the thing is i agree on the base/surface level. but his play seems very reckless as a scum. his big OMG YOU CLAIM VT post is what made me put him in a null-scum pile at least

[ika]

shinobi imm board.

what you think of his last post that i commented on?

[ika]

shinobi imm board.

what you think of his last post that i commented on?

What did you mean by reckless for scum, exactly?

him throwing around his vote like its nothing

i mean i would like to see more before i truly decide but for right now

[ika]

ive already gave enough imput on enough of the things.

also most of those question about gamestate are either irrlivent or dont do anyhting productive

[ika]

i would say most if not all have already been asnwered by my iso.

[ika]

i would say most if not all have already been asnwered by my iso.

Just answer the questions.

but toucherig wake for more post count is fun.

[ika]

1)

What do you feel about Lapsa saying SW was confScum? I asked him 'according to what.' What do you think?

dont care

2)

Do you think, since Boons and ika can hammer L-1, that they'd both hammer someone at L-2? I know that question is less pertinent, but I'd like to know what people think on this regardless.

dont care

3)

What do you think of Wolfie's play so far, and what do you think she's capable of?

irreivent

4)

Since you are self-aware of your own play, are you willing to point out any of your alignment-indicative behaviors?

wifom arguments

5)

Do you think we should speedlynch, or take our time? Not asking that we drag it to the last day, but at least use our time somewhat wisely.

dont care

6)

Who do you want to hear more from? Who needs more pressure?

dont care, dont care

7)

On my 441, I don't think players should be implying players are Town based on the assumption the game is singleball. I don't make assumptions: I keep all possibilities in the back of my mind, and play accordingly.

comment not question

8)

What do you think of 442 where I spoke with nosferatu about sheeping?

dont care

there answered for your amusment

pedit: its wake what do you xpect?

[ika]

who said i was apathetic? and who said i wasnt seriously participating?

[ika]

That was actually hilarious.

hi there, how ar eyou

got any town reads that you would liek to share?

[ika]

who said i was apathetic? and who said i wasnt seriously participating?

You can't even (bother to) spell all of the words in your sentences correctly.

and if i linked you all my games you would see i have done that acorss the board

good job on making pointless commentary

[ika]

Ika, I can use a bunch of your posts to "prove" that you don't really care all that much about this game. How about the one where you said "I don't care" or "irrelevant" to a bunch of questions? Oh, and what Nos said.

thats doesnt mean i dont care about the game.

and as i said before my not correcting typing is normal. shall i link you to my past games?

[ika]

1. Skybird - null
2 . T S O - in thread masob
3. Ika - town
4 . Silverwolf - still scum
5. Shinobi - town
6 . Boonskiies - null
7. Wake88 - ignoring
12 . Lapsa - could be scum but role read
13. GrayFoxxxx - VT
15. Quaroath - want more
21. Salamence20 - dunno

everyone else i need to get back to

pedit: ok........ i dont see you advoating a policy lynch on me yet?

[ika]

8. Ozgin - null-town
9. Texcat - town
10. Kop* - never posted?
11. Zebulin* - never posted?
14. Mahonster - wanna say town but meh the naive comment thorws me off
16. Creede73 - funny town
17. Nanite - never posted?
18. Spiffeh - town
19. Nosferatu - porb scum
20. Annadog40 - porb town

there finsihed my read list

[ika]

@ika did you notice that Nanite got replaced by red?

i was coping first post as streamline

mod can you update OP with repalcments?

if thats the case i have to go isoing agin

[ika]

meh red could be scum but im tired its 1 in morn here

[ika]

its a scum tacic used to call a scum buddy scum but be able to lyncha a townie first

[ika]

in ohterwords its a setup to chain lynch ppl

[ika]

its a scum tacic used to call a scum buddy scum but be able to lyncha a townie first

@ika ain't that naive scum tactic?

depends how how naive others are to said tactic

[ika]

its a scum tacic used to call a scum buddy scum but be able to lyncha a townie first

@ika ain't that naive scum tactic?

depends how how naive others are to said tactic

@ika are you naive enough?

depeneds

[ika]

Also, ika's being bad as well. His latest list shows he has me as his main scumread. But he's voting for someone he's ignoring. His not giving a shit is typical for him. More so as scum but not uncommon as town.

your right i am being a badass

[ika]

yawn

[ika]

go a problem with tubo lynching?

[ika]

yay frogger is here.

now i can find someone out real quick

[ika]

SW how come your more calm about it now?

[ika]

i still endorce seed wagons

like this game is stupid slow compared to what i play. try 24-48 hr cycles we can get these pages in that time frame

[ika]

im gonna afk thread untill lynch/crunch time unless forgger or someont piques my intrest

[ika]

i will be around to be an asshole and take pagetops though

pedti damn it

[ika]

SW you pelting back or even havig emoitnal out breaks is not really any better you know?

I mean you should be more like me and just ignore about 90% of the shit ppl even say. you will find it much eaiser if you just dont give a damn

[ika]

pfffff....

[ika]

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

this is boring can we lynch in here {wake, orgins, gray}

come on already this is boring

[ika]

mod internet is wonky v/la

[ika]

damn missed hammer

[ika]

sigh why are we letting scum spew wifom GM already said (who iirc is on NGR) that survivors are not allowed

[ika]

but your not town...

you shoudl realize i have played dozens of games on fourms and thouthands of games online with survivor/neutral claims and how many times it has ended up being a scum fakeclaim.

even if you are suvivor i doubt it cus survivor with no addons is like the dumbest thing ever

[ika]

ok how about we sttle this once and for all

vet/mod, are survivors allowed in normal games at all?

this is the same shit i had in my other game i hosted where ppl sat aroudn dicussing leaving a 3p alive or not

[ika]

vet/mod, under current normal guildlies are survivors allowed in normal games at all?

fixed

pedit leashing is leaving a said player alive for town to use. most times its an sk to be left alive to be used as a vig

[ika]

Just curious why you didn't go for a 2nd investigation, and crumbed a TSO guilty instead?

suboptimal

also if he dies, its very easy for someone to kinda mess up who he did check and what his results are

[ika]

FOUND IT SURVIVOR IS NOT POSSBILE

[ika]

Mechanics which are explicitly Non-Normal include:

Those affecting a role's alignment (no Cults)
Anything which significantly affects the core mechanic of majority/plurality lynches (no Kingmaker, for example)
Anything resolving with a random element
Post Restrictions (other than those included in the ruleset, such as "No quoting your Role PM").
Lying to the players, including False Role Reveals and "Scum Masons"
Night action redirection (no Bus Driver, Lightning Rod, Nexus, or Redirector)
Returning "No Result" to Trackers who do not see their target go anywhere (in favor of "Your target did not visit anyone")

Alignments other than Mafia/Werewolf, Pro-Town, and Serial Killer (

no Survivor

, Lyncher, or Jester).

Hydra accounts
Differing kill flavor for different factions - everyone that dies at night should flip in the same way (e.g., "died during the night" or "was found dead")

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Normal_Game

[ika]

so unless areo somehow bypassed that or NGR overlooked it tso dies today

[ika]

Just curious why you didn't go for a 2nd investigation, and crumbed a TSO guilty instead?

suboptimal

also if he dies, its very easy for someone to kinda mess up who he did check and what his results are

Like I said, he wasn't at risk of dying yet. If he was, he could out his result. If he felt he was townread enough, he could have outed it near day end too. The even night vig is dead, so only scum would kill him tonight. In that event, he could have crumbed his result. There's some pretty obvious ways of crumbing it.

He could still be scum cop. I'm not ruling that out, in which case it's to his benefit to get the result out there ASAP.

doesnt change the endpoint.

if he dies and never outed results we would of never known maybe

but im not here to have this pointless debate about how or when cops need to claim

[ika]

and the last time this argument of "you need em" was in HU2 where 2 poeple argued to town they thrie role was need to for town.

guess what: town won by lynching them

i dont give a damn what you are tso you die

[ika]

GM put you vote back on tso

[ika]

omg i stopped after sk claim

[ika]

full fucking stop we have a damn vig here i am not letting a said sk alive he dies

[ika]

im done with this game untill town decides to be smart and lynch tso

VOTE: tso

pedit: no he dies

[ika]

VOTE: tso

[ika]

check SW

[ika]

my god how hard is it to get a damned scum lynch

SW the reason why i can get ayway with doing nothing is cus i generate enough town cred during a part of the game that people shrug me off. after that if ppl start suspecting me i can easily come in and change it.

like i said check SW

[ika]

Hot damn.

4 town bites the dust already. Wow that's bad.

Does this mean multiball for sure? Sk?

And that neighborhood wipe was possibly a really bad play. I'll look at that later.

Isn't #1968 a classic scum tell?

yes

but we have confirmed scum our cop can find out

[ika]

Isn't #1968 a classic scum tell?

I thought about that, but posted anyway. I am by no means classic on this site.

lol @ people listening to the confirmed not town

Still haven't gotten past this.

if hes sk, we dont really have all that mucht o lose by lsitenign to him, as mafia or scum team yes we should.

thats why im ignoing till flip

[ika]

the fact cop gets town/not town alone should say we have multiball now that i think about it.....

cus it really seems weak to an sk to not at leat have II

[ika]

You have no idea what scumslips look like, texcat. That's called using your brain.

Ika - the last time you modded you used an SK variant which didn't have II. You can keep attempting potshots like this but nobody will buy them.

hey tso:

Subject: New York 180 (Endgame)

Spoiler: 3rd party

Mass Murderer

Welcome XXX you are the

Mass Murderer

Your abilities:

-You are investigation immune (Godfather)

-You have 2 manual use vest (BP), this can be used in place of you night action giving you immunity to all night kills
-You can not use a vest if you are on cool down
-Each night you may target someone and kill everyone who visits them
-If the player targets nobody, they will also be nightkilled
-If 2 or more players get night killed by your attack you will have a one night cooldown where you can not kill
-If a player is to be night killed but lives, it will still count.
-You will learn how many people you night killed
*Message: "You killed X players last night"
-You may visit your own house ONCE and will trigger a Cooldown

Your Goal: Be the last Person standing

Will win in any 1v1 rulings

bolded th II part i had for you. so nice try

[ika]

aslo TSO i always make any 3p killer role II and kill immune by default (it wasnt the case for MM due to NGR wanting to nerf it)

[ika]

Remind me how the Mafia found out who I was, ika?

rolecop bypasses II, read wiki.

they have had rolecops be able to detect godfather all the time.

as for track mmune this site meta say you have to have nija modifyier. also read the quote again said you were gf not ninja

[ika]

oh and just to fuck with tso more

form wiki itself

In games with multiple killers, instead of appearing innocent on Cop reports, the Godfather may be Bulletproof instead; they will appear guilty on Cop reports as normal, but cannot be killed at Night. (This has also been called Mafia Tough Guy.)

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Godfather

pedit: FUCK NO WE LYCNH HIS FUCKING ASS TODAY. thats like scum 101 to have 2 difffrne ttargets

[ika]

OMG FUCKING VOTE TSO THE FACT WE HAVE A FUCKING VIG MEANS WE DONT NEED HIS FUCKING ASS

HOW HARD IS IT TO GET TO PEOPLE?

PEDIT: NO HE FUCKING DIES SHUT UP ABOUT LETTING HIM LIVE

[ika]

OMG FUCKING VOTE TSO THE FACT WE HAVE A FUCKING VIG MEANS WE DONT NEED HIS FUCKING ASS

HOW HARD IS IT TO GET TO PEOPLE?

PEDIT: NO HE FUCKING DIES SHUT UP ABOUT LETTING HIM LIVE

I'm not really of the mind to think it's a smart play.
I still think it's a bad play and that lynching him is optimal.

I'm just tossing the idea around in my head because, frankly, I've only leashed a serial killer in SC2mafia and that was on a much smaller scale.
I'm curious to see what happens because we never, EVER run serial killers on my home site and MS has them in like every other game or something.

ok no, your talking to someon now who has not only played 1000s of sc2 mafai games but sits on that site as well and as well as hositng a game on that site so full stop, this is not sc2 this is fm mafia.

so dont even try to relate that imballance to ballence here.

if you would liek to talk sc2 mafia mod games i can talk but otherwise its nto the same

(remind em to pm you post gaem about sc2)

[ika]

im also going as far as to say to you shinobi that i have also benn a staff on site and seen the shit that goes on in games and know sevral of not only mods but admins as well so trying to aruge a SC2mafia game is moot with me

you never fucking leash unless its abolutlye needed. an sk when its not lylo/mlyo is always in best option.

worst case he ends up killing more towns

[ika]

here shinobi let me push it even further in sc2 terms hes might not even be an sk he could be triad

[ika]

Yeah. Probably.
/shrug

I'm still curious but the smart play is to just lynch him.
SPEAKING OF WHICH, someone explain the red wagon to me and why we're jumping on that over the TSO wagon, which I've asked like 50 times now.

Pedit: Oh god don't even get me started on Triad.

cursiou about what?

as for triad they added that cus 2 mafia teams was a concpet thatbwas talked about for a long time

[ika]

How leashing a serial killer works outside of SC2mafia.
It's the only reason I haven't herded everyone onto a TSO lynch yet. I kind of want to see what happens.

in this game alone? lynch it with fire
in general? i would only consider leashing if we were in mylo/lylo where sk was the only chance of us winning.

i mean its not even something thats should be debated, we have anohter vig in the game with 3 death (uless we are in sk/WW/Maf)

but this is not a depabe thign. you should be convinceing ppl

[ika]

i mean its not even something thats should be debated, we have anohter vig in the game with 3 death (uless we are in sk/WW/Maf)

except the other vig is likely oddnight

tonight is even

js

doesnt change the fact we have a vig in the game

[ika]

but thats how mafia is SW. its about stating things that seem to be there.

i mean if its not rue why dont you disprove it for us

[ika]

hey shinobi did you ever like the lawless setup?

i was considering running it as a large

[ika]

he is though in his own was SW, the fact they are refuting the point by certain aspects is

[ika]

hey shinobi did you ever like the lawless setup?

i was considering running it as a large

Remind me which one that is?

it was the stupid fun setup of 3 triads, 3 mafs, a cult, sk, aronsist, witches and veteran

[ika]

tso should kill orgins if not fire shoudl check that

[ika]

*shrugs* thats what i always kinda pronunced your user as

NOW LYNCH TOS EVERYONE

[ika]

HEY LETS ALL LYNCH TSO WHO IS A OUTED SCUM!

[ika]

your right im not readin tso, cus i run on a one track mind: lynch scum

when theres an outed scum in a non lylo/mylo it should be poit blank lynch and see what happens tommorw

[ika]

Dont listen frogger

we dont need his sk ass

[ika]

if tso live he needs to kill oz

if he dies fire needs to check that stuff

im still curiosu cus frogger made good pooitn early on

[ika]

I totally agree with Frogger. TSO keeps trying to set up an either/or situation between himself and Red. We have time. Don't let a known anti-town (TSO) drive the lynch candidate.

[ika]

i mean its basically "lynch confirmed scum" or lynch "someone who might be scum"

like the fact anyone has to even think abotu that is stupid

[ika]

VOTE: redff

TSO HEAD TOMMORW

IM FED UP

[ika]

i would notmaly hold back after day 1 but you deicde to lets some jack scum get away. fuck you

[ika]

ika...TSO is going nowhere. He's going to be done soon enough.

this is a better plant to sort through the rest of the question marks

no its not. frogger mafia 101 is lynch scum.

if it doesnt screw the game you lynch them, leashing is bs shit that only helps scums in long term

[ika]

whatever, i guarantee TSO won't be around for the whole game. hitting 2 scum is better than hitting 1

and what happens when he "acciadently" kills more towns?

[ika]

Then he's flash lynched. accidentally killing more towns doesn't help his wincon as scum or as SK because he knows he's instalynched as soon as he doesn't follow towns directives.

ok so he kills the one town agress on and they are town. what then?

its still a double loss.

we have a god damn cop for pete sake we could jsut have our bloody cop check the perosn

[ika]

VOTE: tso

back to this now

[ika]

i would hint if fire in crumbing fashin and only out if they are up for lynch

BOTH OF YOUG ET YOUR VOTE ON TSO

[ika]

Omg I'm drunk aro on me any game illnin that shit in an instant

[ika]

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