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I claim miller-
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I had a feeling there would be multiple millers this game-
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Gamma has done what so far?In post 26, Elements wrote: Gamma and Black probably town-
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Black had posted more.In post 33, davesaz wrote:
Why not the same amount of puzzlement at both?In post 29, Dunnstral wrote:
Gamma has done what so far?In post 26, Elements wrote: Gamma and Black probably town
Can you explain it?In post 34, Elements wrote:
It's a meta read based partly on mini open 893In post 29, Dunnstral wrote:
Gamma has done what so far?In post 26, Elements wrote: Gamma and Black probably town
This speculation is really random and it's hard to imagine you think any of this is likelyIn post 40, Elements wrote:
If Dunn is a neighbour then I could see the miller claim coming from a traitorIn post 39, KawaiiKame wrote:
VOTE: DuunstralIn post 36, Elements wrote: Anyone want to start a wagon?
Voting the miller
But for now I think Dunn's town-
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Same reason I gave when the first 3 people questioned me.In post 95, Gamma Emerald wrote:
There a reason you singled me out?In post 29, Dunnstral wrote:
Gamma has done what so far?In post 26, Elements wrote: Gamma and Black probably town-
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It seems more believable than bringing up neighbors and traitors to me.-
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The post you are referring to is in response to me, so thinking we are the same slot would mean your reason for thinking Dave is town does not make senseIn post 34, Elements wrote:
I like thisIn post 33, davesaz wrote:
Why not the same amount of puzzlement at both?In post 29, Dunnstral wrote:
Gamma has done what so far?In post 26, Elements wrote: Gamma and Black probably town
You can be town too, for now-
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What would I need to be informed about to claim miller as mafia?In post 172, Hu Tao wrote: I belive Dunn and ssbm's claim. Unless the small chance they are scum together or scum informed of miller's in this game. Either way, I wouldn't want them today at the very least. If there are actual millers, there is likely a way to confirm that somehow regardless.-
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In post 168, Hu Tao wrote:
So scum will not target me and I can last till end game. I believe in myself to find scum as long as I'm alive long enough. Now I just need to be towny enough to not be voted out. I've eliminated half of the work.In post 61, TimmerRC wrote:
I understand why people claim miller early on, but why throw out a VT claim on page 1? I'm coming to this site mostly from a background where claiming was against the rules, so I would love to hear how claiming this helps the town.In post 14, Hu Tao wrote: VT
This is nonsenseIn post 169, Hu Tao wrote:
Nope. I'm VTIn post 69, Black wrote: I think Hu Tao was just joking with the VT claim-
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Yes but I'm trying to get you to articulate why I would need to be informed about there being another miller in order to be fake claiming miller here.In post 211, Hu Tao wrote:
That there are multiple miller's in this game? I'm not sure. Just trying to think of a scenarioIn post 179, Dunnstral wrote:
What would I need to be informed about to claim miller as mafia?In post 172, Hu Tao wrote: I belive Dunn and ssbm's claim. Unless the small chance they are scum together or scum informed of miller's in this game. Either way, I wouldn't want them today at the very least. If there are actual millers, there is likely a way to confirm that somehow regardless.-
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👀In post 234, Random Nurse wrote: Davesaz, Elements, Hu Tao, and Dunnstral I'm fairly familiar with and can kind of tell if they're Scum.-
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I've answered this. It might have been the same question from a different player.In post 242, Random Nurse wrote:In post 240, Elements wrote:
Dave hasn't asked me a question?In post 226, Random Nurse wrote:In post 34, Elements wrote:
I like thisIn post 33, davesaz wrote:
Why not the same amount of puzzlement at both?In post 29, Dunnstral wrote:
Gamma has done what so far?In post 26, Elements wrote: Gamma and Black probably town
You can be town too, for now
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...I don't recall you answering Dave's question.
Unless this is a joke about me getting Dave and Dunn confused in which case I have now
God damn it.
That was directed at Dunn.
Me rolling miller in a large and having seen an uptick of multiple miller games to try to cause discordance.In post 272, Guillotina wrote:
What makes you say this?In post 14, Dunnstral wrote: I had a feeling there would be multiple millers this game-
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Random Nurse asked one question about the ratio of town to mafia. Framing it as constant questions seems disingenuous to me.In post 343, Gamma Emerald wrote: He left the site under unfortunate circumstances iirc so I think he wishes to maintain distance from those past issues but for me, the constant questions about what ratios of scum in a game make sense just make it harder to not think of that since I always process that I believe his main knew such things which ofc brings me back to thing about his main
Yes that claim is weird and not what we usually expect to see.In post 363, TimmerRC wrote:Because most of my mafia career was on sites where roleclaiming was strictly forbidden and would get you modkilled instantly. So this is my second game with claiming allowed and it's... weird. Especially a VT claim so early. If you are a VT, you've helped the mafia target the power roles. If you are lying, you will destroy your credibility later on. I just don't get it.
In post 467, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
It feels strange to me that nobody else took issue with this for the same reason I did. Guillotina voted here but not for the same reason.In post 249, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
VOTE: CeleblokiIn post 217, Celebloki wrote: I've also been in a lot of games that Random Nurse was in a the start, my RVS vote on him is basically because I knew he wasn't going to show.
The issue I have with this post is it reveals that Celebloki wanted a 'safe' RVS vote. Who but scum wants that?
It is weird but don't see how it is scum behavior and slipping. I think town can be frustrated and vote there.In post 468, ssbm_Kyouko wrote: Who but scum even thinks "I know this guy isnt going to show so I'll vote him in RVS"
If you're doing this as town you can just not vote. This is scum trying to fit in during RVS and now that we're out of it he felt comfortable enough to admit it.
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For Random Nurse. I did respond to Dave.In post 113, Dunnstral wrote:
Black had posted more.In post 33, davesaz wrote:
Why not the same amount of puzzlement at both?In post 29, Dunnstral wrote:
Gamma has done what so far?In post 26, Elements wrote: Gamma and Black probably town-
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This is a weird post. Acknowledges it is based on playstyle and is very vague... it doesn't actually say or explain anything.In post 481, Broccoli Quest 2 wrote:In post 480, ssbm_Kyouko wrote: What's the basis of scum!Dunn?You caught me, that was the one read that was 80% fake
the reason for the 20% probably has to do more with his playstyle than his alignment, but I just felt his posts had a tone which doesn't feel towny to me.
Who has the lowest points on your chart?In post 515, Keyleth wrote: I think Broccoli's entrance into the thread felt very nice. I like it personally. Trying to figure out why people are wolfreading Celeb if people could give me a hand with that it'd be lovely. The person that has the lowest points on my chart seems to be TR so it is just likely I am incorrect. The pace of this game is somehow both casual in dialect and yet really hard to process.-
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TownyIn post 561, Hu Tao wrote: Playerlist:
Gamma Emerald
Celebloki
Naerys
Guillotina
Keyleth
TimmerRC
Elements
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The rest of us have no context for what you are talking about then.In post 574, Gamma Emerald wrote:
It’s not just this game that made me say thatIn post 549, Dunnstral wrote:
Random Nurse asked one question about the ratio of town to mafia. Framing it as constant questions seems disingenuous to me.In post 343, Gamma Emerald wrote: He left the site under unfortunate circumstances iirc so I think he wishes to maintain distance from those past issues but for me, the constant questions about what ratios of scum in a game make sense just make it harder to not think of that since I always process that I believe his main knew such things which ofc brings me back to thing about his main
I don't agree on this reasoning being a good indicator of mafia.In post 623, Broccoli Quest 2 wrote:In post 552, Dunnstral wrote: This is a weird post. Acknowledges it is based on playstyle and is very vague... it doesn't actually say or explain anything.My kind sir, let me explain:
I think your tone is one that comes more often than random from scum. Probably like 60% of the time. I'm referring to, specifically, the complete lack of interest in any fluff and the overly trying hard attitude. Still, it's possible it's just your playstyle. I don't really care because I don't have any other reason to scumread you right now. K.In post 567, Gamma Emerald wrote: This feels manipulative
I fail to see how calling you town over not wanting to do what I hoped you would do is somehow an attempt to control or influence you. Unless you think I am trying to manipulate you into NOT being in a town core with Elements and me, which is frankly preposterous (I like it!)Merriam-Webster's Dictionary wrote:Manipulative: serving or intended to control or influence others in an artful and often unfair or selfish way
I disagree with this plan.In post 719, Broccoli Quest 2 wrote:I would like to propose a plan:
Every person list 2-4 people they are sure are town with higher than 90% certainty.
Then we make a pool of 4-5 people who never get voted today.
Then we just wagon a random person who's not in the pool, and repeat the same tomorrow. If the reads are accurate, that gives 33% chance to hit scum each day, or about 60% chance to to succeed on either.
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I don't think "it doesn't progress the game" is a very strong indicator of mafia hereIn post 731, davesaz wrote:
trivial, not AIIn post 121, Celebloki wrote: Elements is a champion baffler for sure.
I'm not inclined to vote for the millers. I think I agree with Gamma's take.
I could count this as a post.In post 122, Celebloki wrote:
Kyouko claimed miller in her opening post too, it seems unfair to say her claim is illegitimate just because Dunn got to the game first. Not everyone can have the opening post of a game.In post 113, KawaiiKame wrote:
I feel Duun's claim is genuine, millers often claim miller in their opening posts. Duun's miller claim feels straight up, unlikely that mafia plays this directly. Kyouko feels real/potentially opportunistic, shielding herself behind the initial miller claim if she is mafiaIn post 98, Black wrote: I'm not sure. Dunn's claim felt like a joke with it being the first post of the game. Kyouko's feels more real but I'm not familiar enough with her to tell if it's coming from scum
VOTE: ssbm_Kyouko
True but how does it progress the game?In post 198, Celebloki wrote:In post 168, Hu Tao wrote:
So scum will not target me and I can last till end game. I believe in myself to find scum as long as I'm alive long enough. Now I just need to be towny enough to not be voted out. I've eliminated half of the work.In post 61, TimmerRC wrote:
I understand why people claim miller early on, but why throw out a VT claim on page 1? I'm coming to this site mostly from a background where claiming was against the rules, so I would love to hear how claiming this helps the town.In post 14, Hu Tao wrote: VT
You understand why it's generally anti-town to openly claim VT though, right?
Does this progress the game?In post 199, Celebloki wrote: It seems like some people are being overly-critical, but maybe it's just people eager to get the game out of an RVS mindset.
I'd have to look at 217 to know whether this is related to RN or not, but suspect it is.In post 436, Celebloki wrote: And I guess follow-up question, why do you think Kyouko voted me and quoted 217?-
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Yes because mafia don't tend to call a lot of people suspicious at once, IMO.In post 754, Elements wrote:
Really?In post 753, Dunnstral wrote:
TownyIn post 561, Hu Tao wrote: Playerlist:
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Towny: ssbm_Kyouko, Black, Broccoli Quest 2, Elements, Gamma Emerald, Hu Tao, Guillotina, Keyleth, Random Nurse
Null: Cat Scratch Fever, Naerys, TimmerRC
Scummy: davesaz, Celebloki, Andresvmb, KawaiiKame-
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In post 672, ssbm_Kyouko wrote: 640 bothered me because it was so "mediator-ish" without really adding anything thoughtful. I think we could all see both sides, even if personally we would agree with Gamma or with BQ2: Electric Boogaloo. I don't think it's hard to see that Gamma felt the behavior was manipulative and also that BQ2 did not mean it in that way (or at least says he didn't, which feeds more into it feeling manipulative to Gamma)
And it felt like he had not posted in a while so I went back to see when he posted last and what happened.
So since it's apparent what the situation is, why post at all? 640 feels like a long post about... nothing.
And I didnt remember dave posting recently so I thought "hmm, I'm going to go back and check what has happened between 640 and the last time dave posted because that seems like a scummy "I'm not lurking" post to me. So I did... and while checking when he last posted I read Dave's ISO. It's mostly shading Keyleth, but not trying to start any pressure directly on her.
I think dave is slitherin' rn
VOTE: davesazIn post 681, davesaz wrote:
VOTE: ssbm_kyoukoIn post 675, ssbm_Kyouko wrote: No bloops
I disapprove of anti-bloops too. No intentional pagetops.In post 766, Dunnstral wrote: Towny: ssbm_Kyouko, Black, Broccoli Quest 2, Elements, Gamma Emerald, Hu Tao, Guillotina, Keyleth, Random Nurse
Null: Cat Scratch Fever, Naerys, TimmerRC
Scummy: davesaz, Celebloki, Andresvmb, KawaiiKameAre you openly voting for anyone who suspects you?
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In post 790, davesaz wrote:
I'm slapping people who intentionally pagetop.In post 776, Dunnstral wrote: 681 is weird because it's written out like an rvs vote
OK. So what made you vote for me?In post 791, davesaz wrote: This is at least the 3rd game I've done that since hiatus.-
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davesaz, do you remember 4 hours ago when you made this post?
In light of this post, do you think it is fair to say that you are not following your own standards for others as written above?In post 693, davesaz wrote:
Quote things and say what you think about them would be a good start. More than just like or don't like. For me to evaluate your alignment (or anyone's) I need to know if what you say makes sense given the events, and that's pretty well impossible without a fair amount of because clauses.In post 689, Keyleth wrote: Is there uh, anything I can do to help dave?-
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In post 766, Dunnstral wrote: Towny: ssbm_Kyouko, Black, Broccoli Quest 2, Elements, Gamma Emerald, Hu Tao, Guillotina, Keyleth, Random Nurse
Null: Cat Scratch Fever, Naerys, TimmerRC
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Yes I scumread Davesaz and I believe that is what prompted them to vote for me.In post 799, Keyleth wrote: My bad :oops:
When asking them their reasons for voting me they replied in a vague way to make it seem coincidental.
I am pointing out that their response does not fit with what they expect other people to do as they wrote in 693. I'd equate what they wrote to "like or don't like" rather than using because clauses to explain what they mean. They are being inconsistent in how they apply they reasoning.
So why is that? The way I see it, either they simply don't hold themselves to the same standard they expect from others, in which case this is not a smoking gun, and they could be either town or mafia. The other possibility is that once questioned about the reason for their vote, they lied about it and wasn't able to give supporting information, as it is not a real thought process and also not something they thought to fake ahead of time; hence the vague response which is at odds with what they said earlier.-
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Are you referring to this post?In post 801, davesaz wrote: but when town you tend to push a lot of questionable theories that make very little sense.-
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So. I know you didn't like that when I posted it, but are you aware that in hindsight, It turned out that my theory was correct?
I wrote that between two replacements, one had received their initial role pm and then manually replaced out, rather than both replacements being due to not picking up any pms. One of those slots happened to be mafia, and there is a record of them posting in their pt in between the two pms.
My point is you're framing me as someone who proposes theories thatdon't make sense. However, when I linked you to atheory that was correct, you say that it is an example of what you are talking about. You did have a seemingly strong personal dislike of my post at the time, I'm perhaps sensing a personal bias here. I don't suppose you are saying that I open up every town game with a theory?-
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What I am saying is that I disagree with this reasoning, both in general and when applied to me.In post 623, Broccoli Quest 2 wrote: I'm referring to, specifically, the complete lack of interest in any fluff and the overly trying hard attitude.-
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You are giving explanations for your thoughts that are believable. Disagreeing with you does not mean you are mafia.In post 821, Broccoli Quest 2 wrote:Question, Dunn: Why do you TR me then if you disagree with everything I said so far?-
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Let me guess, you won't provide any examples on your own?In post 823, davesaz wrote:
I would dislike that specific approach (doing any kind of reads based on whether people flake upon seeing role pm) coming from anyone.In post 814, Dunnstral wrote: So. I know you didn't like that when I posted it, but are you aware that in hindsight, It turned out that my theory was correct?
I wrote that between two replacements, one had received their initial role pm and then manually replaced out, rather than both replacements being due to not picking up any pms. One of those slots happened to be mafia, and there is a record of them posting in their pt in between the two pms.
My point is you're framing me as someone who proposes theories thatdon't make sense. However, when I linked you to atheory that was correct, you say that it is an example of what you are talking about. You did have a seemingly strong personal dislike of my post at the time, I'm perhaps sensing a personal bias here. I don't suppose you are saying that I open up every town game with a theory?
There is more nuance to the meta than a single example can convey. The technique I'm trying to use goes roughly like: player does things that I don't like; I scumread them; they're usually town when this happens and scum when it doesn't; I start looking for an absence of things I don't like. I have no idea whether this is going to work or not. It only applies to people I'm always getting spectacularly wrong.-
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I have to wonder what is on the top of your list of things to do this game, davesaz.-
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I like this postIn post 848, Celebloki wrote:In post 762, Guillotina wrote:Very glad you asked.
The Guillo BAM and AID technique is the process in which everyone has to earn my townread every day as opposed to secretly giving you a score high enough to towncore you for the rest of the game based on your performance on a specific day.
Pros: Keeps the game dynamic
Removes the possibility of scum buddying me once to ride on my favor forever.
It catches deepwolves.
Makes me unpredictable and mafia cant plan around it.
Cons: Very difficult to build a towncore this way.
Builds a level of distrust amongst the actual town as it could be seen as scum keeping the PoE wide instead of narrowing it down.
I also like this idea, I find I often town read someone sub-consciously too often on D1 and have had it backfire (been pocketed). Recently, I have found that I've needed to reset and throw out any town reads I had on subsequent days in case I was pocketed. At first I thought you were being a little bit LAMISTy, but for now I am content that you're coming from a town motivation. I might have to borrow and properly credit this strategy as well.
Conversely, this is also why I am now dubious of people that like to make town blocks on D1. Unless they are masons I just don't understand how anyone can fully trust anyone D1. I've been stung too many times that I only ever lean towards town on some people D1.
In post 656, Broccoli Quest 2 wrote: ...
@Gamma listen I really don't care who or what you vote. Not being in a block is not a threat. A block is a group of people whotrusteach other and are willing to cooperate, and then vote together. If there's no trust then there's no block, it's as simple as that.
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The operative word being trust. Can you really expect to gain actual trust on D1 outside of a Mason type situation? How can anyone reasonably, comfortably join a town block and say they trust the others in the town block? If someone on D1 says they trust others, I'd find that very suspicious.-
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You show that Guillotina's posts are largely not about Hu Tao and that Hu Tao is mistaken here, but I am not seeing th is as scum myself. Saying they are hyper-aware because they are scum is not something I find convincing.In post 936, ssbm_Kyouko wrote: I find it hard to believe that Hu Tao thinks Guillo's ISO is entirely about them unless Hu Tao is hyper-aware of Guillo's pressure because Hu Tao, as scum, is nervous about town!Guillo catching them here.-
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Gut townreading this postIn post 1021, Naerys wrote: Okay so my solid TR are: Dave,Black,Broccoli,Nurse
Kyou the miller - My read isnt as solid here.I feel i disagree with their dave SR. I feel like dave is doing a decent town play here and i have to wonder what could be Kyous motivation to SR dave. On the other side my gut tells me that Kyou is trying to solve the game. So i am at null here.
Suspects: Hu Tao - Unlike Guillotina their vote on me feels off. She isnt trying to get more posts from me, she just took a comfortable seat from which she posts some witty remarks.
Kawaii - i need more from this slot
Dunn the miller-He kind of vanished, it would be neat if he posted some thoughts of his.-
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I think this is town regardless of Hu Tao's alignmentIn post 1053, Celebloki wrote: I don'tbelieve the claim at all. I also don't believe for a second that Hu Tao thought she was actually hammered so the claim itself was no way a twilight-esque spew. It was a calculated gambit.-
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This is a strange post.In post 1060, gob wrote: Can someone explain the voting mechanics this game? And anything else weird about the game.
This is also a strange post.In post 1107, gob wrote:
Yea I can confirm. Me and Kyouko are the millers.In post 1105, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
Your predecessor claimed Miller btw, can you confirm?In post 1074, gob wrote: I am okay with myself gone...
That game had a different voting system after the first 2 eliminations, and neither of the first two eliminations was one of her townreads. I don't think these games are comparable.In post 1153, Black wrote: I just read over Keyleth's entire ISO in Toriel's Patience and he doesn't defend his townreads like he's doing with kyouko this game. There's one instance of him maybe doing this in post #2791 but other than that, this is just not something town!Keyleth does. He's already defended kyouko multiple times
I think they're both just scum here-
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I trust ssbm_Kyouko-
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VOTE: Hu Tao-
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What if I said I was a millerbodyguard, and so Hu Tao's claim, while not impossible to be town, feels less likely to come from town?-
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I didn't think Hu Tao was going to be eliminated unless the bodyguard comes forward today. ssbm_Kyouko is currently the leading wagon and I don't like that wagon.-
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I don't think Celeboki is a good vote.-
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What makes you think bodyguard could be town from your point of view?In post 1290, Hu Tao wrote:
Just posted but I think it's possible we are both townIn post 1282, Black wrote: @Hu Tao thoughts on Dunn's BG claim?-
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I do.In post 1292, Naerys wrote:
You think voting out potential doctor is better?In post 1289, Dunnstral wrote: I don't think Celeboki is a good vote.-
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Light townread. Nothing I am confident in.In post 1293, Black wrote:
Thoughts on Key?In post 1289, Dunnstral wrote: I don't think Celeboki is a good vote.-
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I gave you my opinion.In post 1301, Naerys wrote:
Thats not really helpful.In post 1299, Dunnstral wrote:
Light townread. Nothing I am confident in.In post 1293, Black wrote:
Thoughts on Key?In post 1289, Dunnstral wrote: I don't think Celeboki is a good vote.-
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Alright I see things are getting confusing now and I still don't like the direction things are going today and we are running out of time. And Celebloki is about to claim. I attempted to roleswap with Celebloki's soft claim.-
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Can you explain your thought process here?In post 1385, KawaiiKame wrote:
VOTE: KeylethIn post 1351, ssbm_Kyouko wrote: I think both dave and Gamma make sense as partners to Keyleth
Feel Key is the best flip in finding potential association-
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VOTE: KawaiiKame
I find their vote on Keyleth in post 1385 suspicious. They say Keyleth is best for finding potential association but it's not clear whythey think that. They seem to be parroting what others have been saying earlier.-
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I don't think we should be voting Gamma with that claimIn post 1578, Celebloki wrote: I'm lurking and reading. Deciding if I think Gamma is a vote today. I don't have the time at the moment to really dive anyone until maybe later this afternoon. I've only really formulated a list of people I don't want to vote (which I've listed before). At the moment Gamma isn't on it, but I'm not completely ready to vote her. I honestly have a hard time reading Gamma. Since my return nearly every completed game I've been in has had Gamma in it and I struggle to read her. I'm kind of waiting for a game to see a different side of her, but idk if I see that here yet. Her town/scum differences must be subtle to say the least.
I'm a proponent of not doing no elims, so push comes to shove I can maybe get on the Keyleth vote by deadline, but the only scummy thing you could argue about her play is that she's being too neutral and appeasing. I kind of agree that her play doesn't really benefit town at all, so the lim isn't the end of the world. Her play could be a great disguise for scum though.-
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I will point back to Kawaiikame's vote on Keyleth looking like a mafia vote.-
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I liked Hu Tao's recent posts but think their claim looks suspicious, but again not impossible, with recent claims and softs-
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I see we have 7 hours left and if we want to avoid a no elim we have to consolidate somewhere.-
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I believe they are parroting some earlier sentiments on Keyleth but don't really believe what they wrote. It's not clear how they think Keyleth has good associations. Their vote timing looks like jumping on the wagon to end the day.In post 1625, Naerys wrote:
Could you elaborate on thisIn post 1605, Dunnstral wrote: I will point back to Kawaiikame's vote on Keyleth looking like a mafia vote.-
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gob are you around?-
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By any chance are you from a community where mafia usually have a discord chat?In post 1651, TimmerRC wrote: Yeah that feels like someone told them to get in here, I think we have our lim, especially with no PR claim.-
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I was just wondering how they would be summoned from a pt unless they were already on the site and probably following along-
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I thought that Timmers could have been used to mafia having a discord and pinging them there.In post 1666, Gamma Emerald wrote:
SpicyIn post 1656, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
Dunn thinks you summoned him :dead:In post 1655, TimmerRC wrote:
I've had chatrooms for scum teams everywhere I've ever played, most of my history predates Discord though. Why?In post 1653, Dunnstral wrote:
By any chance are you from a community where mafia usually have a discord chat?In post 1651, TimmerRC wrote: Yeah that feels like someone told them to get in here, I think we have our lim, especially with no PR claim.-
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Seems suspicious to me that this slot has replaced so many times.
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They are still trying to confuse things by saying they protected Gamma when they didn't. Where is the town motivation there?In post 1733, Naerys wrote: Since i have seen town!Tao lie about being doctor, i suppose she could be town.
I dont see what scum!Broccoli would gain from defending town!Tao - more likely he would support the easy lim. Defending Hu Tao makes sense only in case of both town or both scum. Both being scum is something to think about.-
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I'm confused as to why people think Hu Tao is town and lied.-
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