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In post 4036, pisskop wrote:I dont get the Delta read.
Yeah, I'd love this explained because I'm pretty sure Royal went from Delta and Anen being scum together for associatives early in the game to now they are mafia and SK because the first theory is impossible. At the risk of sounding like Anen, this seems to fall under the whole regardless of card thing. Royal, please correct me if I'm misremembering. Why is Delta SK?
In post 4037, pisskop wrote:Or that Anen is mafia?
Why can't he be?-
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There's nothing wrong with process of elimination in general. However, when you have two PoE scum reads, yes, that implies having town reads on everyone else. And when you say you are eliminating "your reads", but everyone else isn't a town read, well, you are kind of contradicting yourself. It doesn't feel like a real thoght process. It sounds like trying to give the "right" answer and fade back into the background. I think I actually prefer a dragonspawn lynch to flubber right now.
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Hmm. The more words I see from AP today, the more I think I was wrong about his slot and he's town.
I can see the Silverwolf logic. It makes sense. It feels like a genuine attempt to read the slot. And her "I'm town" well after she seems to care about the game anymore very well could be genuine. I don't agree on dragonspawn though. Why can't he be scum who is frustrated with being lynched and losing the game as a result?-
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Dragonspawn, I have no issue with using process of elimination. Everybody is probably using it to some extent. Even Royal now thinks Anen is town. Why? There's only one scum left, so it can't be Delta/Anen. The issue is that you used PoE to get down to two players without even claiming to have a town read on everyone else. That's not PoE. That's justifying a jump on a wagon that isn't yours. You are overblowing the "I was on the scum lynch" that means jack shit for SK. Acting like you are the world's best scum hunter doesn't matter.
Royal, can you make a town case for Dragonspawn if you're so sure he's town? Can you show me where Delta OMGUS'd?-
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In post 4210, dragonspawn wrote:Or I could simply have been saying I'm using the process of elimination because that's what I was using.
I am thinking anen is town too. I don't think the serial killer would go out of his way to make arguments for why you should townread someone. It makes.ore sense to obscure reads and put doubt on people
Also it's not that I disagree about Anen probably not being SK, but has anyone NOT explained a single town read in this game?-
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Ah didn't realize you meant RL days. Was thinking game days.
I need to sleep. I'll give the last page or so a proper read another time-
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Royal, that Delta post feels well reasoned and thought out. The fact that the analysis centers around his wagon doesn't make it OMGUS. I think he was genuinely hunting scum in that post whether he is SK or not. However, it's entirely possible that he killed Drixx just to set up that arguement. The only problem is that this requires him to have had a scum read on Drixx that I don't remember him sharing with us because that theory makes no sense if he thought Drixx was town. Again, possible. Just, I don't know how likely it feels. Leaning towards "not very".
Anen, again, I think you are making too many assumptions about the precautions a SK would take to not get caught. How many wagons they jump and how often they get voted is just... not the way I've seen anyone go about finding them. I mean, maybe it will work. But it still assumes you are right about the way they chose to play. That being said, I believe that you believe everything you are saying. It looks like a real attempt to find the SK. So I'm pretty sure you are town at this point.
Tex, I think Delta did more coasting Day 1 than the rest of the game. To say he started coasting after Drixx's flip is just straight wrong.
Delta, I don't see why one of those options has to be true. There's no reason why this has to be a 1 vs 1 situation between you and Tex. You very well could both be town.-
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AP, yeah I was more interested in finding mafia than SK until it came down to one mafia remaining. Then I voted Dramonic and Flubber as SK votes. Why is this an issue? If I'd been SK hunting with mafia still alive, you'd accuse me of being mafia for SK hunting. Would you have SK hunted from Day 1 had you not been a replacement? Do you typically SK hunt early in games?-
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I think the idea is that Delta killed Drixx with a scum read on him because a Drixx scum flip would distance Delta from being mafia. But it does nothing to show he isn't SK so I don't really get the point unless he was worried about being lynched. Which maybe makes sense because he was being wagoned. I dunno. It feels like a stretch to me but I can't exactly make a strong argument that it's not what happened so *shrug*-
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In post 4275, texcat wrote:In post 4273, DeltaWave wrote:I'm conflicted. I didn't think the "We" was a scumtell but I think DS's explanation is BS. lol
Ugh. I've got to agree.
^yeah this. I do a shit ton of phone posting and if I've ever had capital letters in spots like that, it's usually because I added something in front of it whether it's online or in a text or whatever. Random capitalization doesn't really happen to me. I mean, it's not a stretch that he could be town and added that anyway, but that explanation doesn't feel truthful to me. And the tone of 4276 is very defeatest. No townie should be upset with an 8:1 gamestate. The SK, however, should be terrified that they have to survive four lynches.-
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In post 4296, AngryPidgeon wrote:In post 4289, dragonspawn wrote:AP why haven't you voted for anyone yet?
I was wondering if someone was going to ask . I'm at the point in the game where I want to be cautious. Hilarious lynches on lurkers are probablyn ot going to be effective at this point. I'm thinking. I was tempted to join Texcat's wagon on Pisskop. Delta wagon I'm hesitant on; I don't think Delta is going to be my preferred lynch Today. dragonspawn wagon is terribad and I can't believe its still a thing.
Seems like a weird time to get cautious. I mean, I agree we can't be random lynching and shit but to be more cautious than you would normally in 8:1 feels weird.-
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RIP wrote: I think is clear that im not the sk
Why'd you say this?
Dragonspawn wrote: and you don't care about catching the SK. At least if we take your last post seriously. We are to believe you don't care about getting lynched as long as another townie, aka me, gets lynched tomorrow.if you were town you'd want us to lynch the SK
This is pretty terrible. If Delta is scum, he said that for town points and no other reason. There is nothing cummy about it.
Royal wrote: Top noteworthy -- RIP why wait for a claim at this point? All roles are in effect vanilla townie or SK.
Eventually, we'll have a cop claim.
AP wrote: Still think its Egg, but whatever. Hes the most notably different person since the Flubber lynch
Probably how busy I've been or my mood. I got fucked over at work and struggled to get any real time off until tomorrow. On top of that, I got stuck for mandatory overtime, turning my 3-11 into 3-11, 11-7am right after I got fucked over. Then I get buried in paperwork from convicts starting shit. Mafia hasn't been a priority. I'm good now though. Just today then I'm on vacation for 22 days and any distractions are good things like spending time with my son and playing in the World Series of Poker.
AP, I forget. Did you ever explain why ABR was "probtown". He just kind of disappeared from people's scum lists and I don't really remember why.
I want to try to get to a library before work today. If I do, which is admittedly in doubt, I want to look at the SK's targets and see what their reads were and if it points to anyone or maybe even seems to clear anyone. The best thing I can come up with is SK probably won't kill people who straight up want them dead because it's too obvious, but probably won't kill people with strong town reads on them. I'm not sure much will come from it, but I can't think of a better way to SK hunt at this point . The only one I might do differently is ika because the SK might have actually thought he was the cop. Hell, maybe they even believed Titus's BS doc claim lol. But yeah, I want to look into those kills some.-
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Royal, AP told us when there was one mafia left why it was a good idea to start SK hunting. Do you think he'd do that as SK? And would House replace out of a SK slot? I don't think it's him.
RIP, so you checked out Tex's posts for the first half of the game and looked at what dead people said and didn't bother to share what you found? Not so sure I buy that.
Tex, why do the kills other than Dixx point to Delta?-
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In post 4429, AngryPidgeon wrote:Pisskop could be scum I guess, but my gut is telling me to put that one on the backburner.
^this is pretty much exactly how I feel about Tex.
Also lmao @ Anen.-
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In post 4443, AngryPidgeon wrote:Oh wow deadline is < 2 days.
I can hammer Delta if Dragonspawn doesn't happen.-
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In post 4570, dragonspawn wrote:So is egg going for an easy mislynch because he genuinely believes I'm the sk or because I'm an easy mislynch at this point?
If it was that easy, it would have happened the last like 2 or 3 game days when I first started pushing it.-
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