Mafia 1010 - Perpetual MyLo - Game Over

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HAY GUYS IM HERREEEE

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OMG EXI
CAN I PLEASE BUTT-HUG YOU?

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By the way does anyone besides me agree that random lynching D1 is the way to go here?

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It's a sneak-attack-hug from behind.

Also,

Vote: Exilon

. GUYS PT 2.
And, I mean, let's lynch ANYONE because regardless Mafia are going to even the odds by the end of the day.

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Depends on your definition of suck.

Anyway, you're right. So let's make with the RVS and get on with it, ya?

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Hmm...

Mod, would scum be allowed to kill whomever they pleased in the event of no lynch?

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Wait, nevermind. Just read rule six.

We have a statistically higher chance of winning if we random lynch than if we no lynch. I'm also wondering, with such a giant team of scum, if we wouldn't be more likely to hit scum by randomizing the lynch than if we let 5 scum bastards manipulate us.

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ITT Shadow Dancer demands real scumhunting before page one is over.

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Shadow Dancer, now that's just plain awful OMGUSing.

Vote: Shadow Dancer

Exilon is town.

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PS EXI I'M HURT YOU'RE NOT ON MSN/SKYPE

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You sound really sure there, one page into the game!
Forget all that LyLo stuff, we've already found our first scum!

Seriously though, Exilon is town. I have my reasons. Pretty obvtown if you ask me.
Also, this post is pretty terribad, though not necessarily scummy:

So far,
Scums are Reckoners and KnightofZero.
Towns are Exilon and SD.

- Exilon sounds genuine in his acusation, though it is wrong.
- SD made a reasonable explanation for why Perpetual Lylo would give us more chance to win than Perpetual Mylo.
- Reckoners and Knight jumped on SD as Exilon suggested bandwagoning, focussing more on SD's supposedly OMGMUS vote instead of his valid reasoning for voting. --> Blatant scum tell.

So SD's IIoA and mechanics-theorizing which doesn't count as scumhunting makes him town? Also, bandwagoning is not a scumtell, I don't know how far up your own ass your head is, but I suggest you pull it out as soon as possible.

Magna, stop being stupid and vote Shadow Dancer like a good townie. You're better than that.

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Sure.

This post comes from a townie's POV. Also, meta.

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Asking a question with obvious answer in thread while PM could have sufficied. Could be attempt to look contributive.

So much this.

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This Shadow Dancer wagon is increasingly more and more attractive, though I definitely dislike Lowell's vote on me as well.

Magna, seriously, WTF.

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Shadow, stop being a ponce.

If you don't make reads, you can't scumhunt. I have a town read, therefore that's at least one person who I won't be lynching today. Your wagon is becoming more attractive because I keep thinking of more reasons I want to lynch you.

Magna, I'm hardly caps locking this game. Fate isn't here with me. I don't have a caps lock buddy. Plus nobody has incited me to rage (yet).

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>_>

You're bad at this, aren't you?

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*checks win/loss record*

Yeah, I am.

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Blah blah blah blah blah.

Seriously, for someone who bitches about scumhunting, you're doing very little of it.

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OH YOU'RE RIGHT I'M OBVSCUM

Let the tunneling commence.
Hey, can some townies check in already? Goddamn.

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This is true.

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toolongofausername is awful

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Did'tn't read your whole argument. Too drunk

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Yes. I'm town and you're voting me for [insert reasons here], therefore your case is awful.
From my POV anyway.

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I know

I'll respond more appropriately in the AM

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Lowell wagon hops. Again.

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Did you just say butt?

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L-1.

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confirm,

vote reck

@destruct- I don't lurk when I'm actually needed. And it appears I'm needed.

unvote, vote dancer

, the question about the game mechanics seemed scummy back on whatever page, as does his need to control things.

MOST LULZY ISO EVER.

EVAR

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brianj, I don't guess you've played Mafia on GameFAQs, have you?

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@Reck: Wow, even more scum slip. From your action I can infer that you like bandwagoning.

Bandwagoning isn't a scumtell. ALSO I HERD U LIEK MUDKIPZ

So why are you suddenly getting all overly defensive when a bandwagon is on you.

Because it was a poor bandwagon built on shitty logic.

I myself don't oppose to bandwagon, but the point of scumminess in your and Knight's vote on SD is you don't focus on his main argument to bandwagon but rather disgress on the minor coincidence that he is OGMUSing.

Is this even English?

Thus I see your actions as clear attempt to be one of the first to be on a wagon to lynch a town. And that makes me think SD is town too, Exilon is being taken advantage of and Knight being your partner.

Positioning of voters on a townie's wagon is a null tell.

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Bandwagon isn't a scum tell so why act all paranoid when someone tries to bandwagon you? And don't call others your (pokemon?) please.

The actual ACT of bandwagoning in and of itself isn't a scumtell, because scum can bus and townies can be wrong. However, the way in which someone bandwagons or the case(or lack thereof) which they use for support CAN be a towntell/scumtell.

Care to tell why it's shitty instead of making shitty fluffs?

Care to tell me why you think this logic IS a good reason for voting me?
Reck discussed the possibility of using a randomiser to decide the lynch for today.
This suggestion is stupid in my opinion.
Therefore, Reck is scum.

Hmm .. It's more English than any of your posts have ever been. I'm guessing you are drunk again. And drunks don't understand English pity on you.

No, I'm being serious. I have no fucking clue what you're trying to say in that post. That second bit of the sentence is such a jumble of words and fragments that it's difficult to work out in my head, but I'll try to respond:

How exactly did Knight and I attack his OMGUS and what do you mean 'his main argument to bandwagon'?

No sir. I'm more inclined to believe the 1st few slots of a townie wagon are more innocent than the last few.

So then why am I scummy for being in the first slot if this is your belief?

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But I don't subscribe to the theory that the first few slots on a townie wagon are more innocent. First few slots on a scum's wagon? Maybe. Not a townie's wagon. Scum and town alike could just as easily put down the first vote on a townie.

However, I just went back and read the vote in question, and I'll agree it was a weak vote. Now that a bandwagon has been adequately formed, however, I'm comfortable with an

unvote

pending further analysis. Yes, SD's OMGUS on Exilon was pretty damn awful, but the people who tried to slide in behind the whole me vs. SD controversy are even more suspicious.

Also, NPIAU is town.

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Now, the Lowell wagon I can support.

@ Reckoner, OMGUS to me is something only a townie can do - "Omg i'm town and you're voting me so you must be scum!". How did SD's OMGUS votes make you think he was more likely scum? If it didn't, then what made you "keep thinking of more reasons" to want to lynch him?
Also, I didn't see Exilon's post you linked to as obviously town. Can you point to specific examples of Exilon's town play that made you think of his town-meta?

1) OMGUS is a null tell, just stop. Scum can just as easily go, "OMG you're attacking me so I'm going to counter-vote you!"
2) Because it was a weak response to Exilon. He switched from a "serious vote" on me to a "serious vote" on Exilon, all because of theory debate.
3) It did.
4) I don't have any specific examples because I've never played with Exilon before, but based on what I saw him play as scum in Guys, Pt. 2 mafia (just finished) and based on how players in the game described his play, he's playing more to his town meta here: you know, actually trying, not coasting by and making excuses. I know that Exi hates being scum and thus is less interested and less likely to actively participate in the game as scum.

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Magna, shut up. I was clearly referencing the hypothetical wagon as we were discussing mafia theory.

STRAWMAN ARGUMENTS FTMFL

Vote: Magna

Votes Lowell (which, Lowell is quite scummy, but this just screams 'TOTALLY SCUMMY TOWNIE WHO'D BE EASY TO WAGON' with how quick votes are being thrown his way), strawmans my argument, yeah.

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Lowell's too scummy to be scum.

Also:

Um how do you know that Shadow is town, and thus your position on his wagon is null?

That IS strawmanning, because you're implying my argument about the wagon positioning was related to an actual in-game situation and NOT clearly about a hypothetical situation (as it actually was).

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Because I was arguing from a theory standpoint. I wasn't arguing from the point of anyone being a townie/non-townie.

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Someone explain to me the dissonance between this:

Nothing changed. There is only spawn of a new possibility that Reck could very well be a town who just doesn't realize his flaws.

and this:

I didn't say SD was town because of that. I'm inclined to believe SD is town because I'm inclined to believe at least 1 of Reck/you are scum.

This just screams fence-sitting.

Now, for Magna:

1. Reck’s insistence that it’s a Null tell based on theory alone doesn’t refute NoPoint’s argument.
2. Why is Reck making an argument that is totally theory based as opposed to arguing that it’s not scummy because he’s wagoning Scum?

1. It does refute his argument, because nopoint is implying that I'm attempting to look townie by getting on a wagon early, whereas I do not believe that is a scum or town tell, therefore I couldn't be trying to look townie by doing so.

2. Because the theory that propelled his case was flawed.

Why are you arguing from a theory standpoint when NoPoint was directly attacking your for ACTUAL events? Your argument isn’t scum-hunting just theory debate. As said above … why didn’t you argue that you were wagoning scum instead of Town?

As I said above - his attack on me was riddled with flawed logic/theory. The entirety of his attack boiled down to "Townies wagon early; therefore, you're scum trying to look townie by jumping on a wagon early" which has no logical ground.

What happens in the posts between 138 and 145 to precipitate this startling 180?

1. Another vote on Lowell.
2. Lowell posts fluff and begs to be unvoted so he can scum-hunt.

I knew I recognized Lowell from somewhere. It's this game, where I was a part of a two goon + traitor scumteam. Lowell was the traitor, but we kept him alive the whole game because he was so goddamn scummy. Of course, this was because we were actually ABLE to get reads on him, because he posted a decent amount of content. Here, he seems to be lackadaisically floating through the pages, which is directly contradictory to his scum meta.

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RECK'S READ LIST!
Town. Totes .	Probtown	Who fucking knows?	The scum is strong with this one.	WHAT THE FUCK? POST MOAR
Exilon	molestargazer	MagnaofIllusion	nopointactingup	brianj
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---	---	Lowell	---	Thief

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Changed my mind.

Post more, fucking lurkerscum.

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Quoi wagon is tech

Unvote; Vote: Quoi

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@NPAU: what the hell was my 'misleading evidence'?

What the fuck at DavidParker's vote.
What the fuck at SD's quadruple post.
What the fuck at brianj not giving a read on me.

Seriously. Just what the fuck.

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I'll catch up here eventually. I'm pretty sick right now.

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destructor is not nearly as pro-town as he thinks he is.

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I didn't realize me...strip Reck...

This statement almost aroused me.

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FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK STOP ADDING CONTENT.

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VOTE: QUOI

TEH HAMMARZ

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Players like NPIAU are the opposite of what players should be in order to have fun in this game. I will push for his lynch in every game regardless of any flips.

FUCK YOU IM DRUNK YOU FUCK ASS

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Seriously, NPIAU is reaching VasudeVa levels of fail.

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Therefore I will Replace nopointinactingup

FUCK. YES.

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Well, that slot is town.

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Lowell lynch is possible.

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Vote: Lowell

Not a problem, chief.

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Man.

Unvote; Vote: DavidParker

What a fuckwad.

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THAT HAS TO BE THE MOST UNHELPFUL POST IN HISTORY

ODDS. LEARN THEM.

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Thank you, mole. His entire post boils down to the fact that EVERYONE HAS A GOOD CHANCE OF BEING SCUM. Hey no shit.
This is perpetual lylo.

Mole is probably scum though.

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Showing up to continue my attack of Korashk after I had already planted those seeds. Just reeks of scum maneuvering.

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Exilon do you really think all the lurkers are scum?

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Yeah, my play here is rather subdued. I've been getting most of my rage out in [redacted - ongoing game]. Also, with no Fate or SocioPath or Elli or anyone else to be all over the top and fucking ridiculous with, it's a lot less fun. Plus I made a decision at the start of this game to actually scumhunt (GASP WTF OMG ME? SCUMHUNTING?) and try to play a game correctly for the first time in forever.

Then whatever dickhead it was who pissed me off put me out of the mood.

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EXI WHY DO YOU THINK ALL LURKERS ARE SCUM?

DO YOU REALLY NOT THINK THERE ARE ANY ACTIVE SCUM?

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V/LA until...well, I don't know, probably like a week.

I've got packing/business to take care of at home until Thursday, then I'm moving to a new city between Thurs & Sat, then I'll be at Caffwagon with a bunch of other scummers from Saturday through Wednesday.

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Wicked, gay avatar.

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Oh, I didn't get replaced here. What the hell.

I guess I can play, but expect me to take a damn long time to catch up since I have a metrick fuck ton of games in which to catch up.

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Alright, so here's the deal: I asked the mod to replace me when Exilon texted me and asked me to ask the mod to replace him, and for some reason I wasn't replaced.
I can keep on playing, but at this point I don't see me having the time to go back and catch up on everything, so someone's going to have to summarize or the mod will have to replace me.

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Shadow, shut the fuck up. Exi quitting had NOTHING to do with me quitting. I just realized how far behind I was and told the mod it might be worth it to go ahead and replace me. He didn't do that, so if I'm here, you're all going to have to realize that I just started a new school and will be too busy to go catch up on 19 pages.

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lol

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Vote: DavidParker

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No, Wicked, I can't.
DavidParker is a fuckwad.

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I'M NOT BEING HELPFUL BECAUSE I ASKED TO REPLACE OUT
FUCK YOU, SD

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

YEAH GUYS I'M SCUM

oh man this game is lulzy

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Now I'm just going to stick around to annoy your stupid ass

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I think you're just obnoxious and significantly less pro-town than you seem to think you are.

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Okay.

Mod, replace me.