Mini 419: Farkle Mafia (Game Over)

[Dagger]

Original Roll String: 6d6

6 6-Sided Dice: (5, 2, 1, 3, 4, 5) = 20

[Dagger]

Pull: 1, 1
Points: 100 + 100 = 200

Original Roll String: 4d6

4 6-Sided Dice: (4, 5, 4, 6) = 19

[Dagger]

Pull: 1, 1, 1, 5
Points: 200 + 1000 + 20 = 1220

W00T! Again, yes?

Original Roll String: 6d6

6 6-Sided Dice: (1, 4, 2, 3, 1, 4) = 15

[Dagger]

Pull: 1, 1, 1, 5, 5
Points: 1220 + 1000 + 50 + 50 = 2320

STOP

Oh, I am going to like this game.

[Dagger]

/Confirm

[Dagger]

OMG

I want to roll like that too.

Do we simultaneously roll for the first round or do we do it in turn order?

Oh,

Random Vote: Nocmen

[Dagger]

Overrated or not, random votes get things going and set the first of patterns.

Now, roll. It's my turn after this.

I am eager to see if I can top Coron.

[Dagger]

I am voting Nocmen, not the other way around.

[Dagger]

I am voting Nocmen, not the other way around.

[Dagger]

My turn!

Original Roll String: 6d6

6 6-Sided Dice: (6, 1, 2, 3, 1, 3) = 16

[Dagger]

2,2,2 - 200

Let me try and push my luck?

Original Roll String: 3d6

3 6-Sided Dice: (4, 1, 2) = 7

[Dagger]

Oh boo!

So, do we keep rolling and keep gaining abilities instead of hunting scums?

[Dagger]

When I made that post, it felt to me as if people didn't bother to post until it was their turn to roll, so it was meant as a jab to the town. If I didn't want to hunt scum, I would have just kept quiet about it.

As for my playing experience, I am relatively new but should have played enough games to know what to do in a mafia game. I am also playing mafia at 2 other sites as of now.

[Dagger]

If he wants to pass there's no reason for us to stop him. That is unless you're scum with him.

There's no reason not to remind him either. That is unless you are scum and you know he is town.

[Dagger]

Don't you know distancing when you see it?

Meaning? Who is distancing from who in this case?

[Dagger]

You got 1500...

It will take extreme luck on my side if I want to surpass that number...

[Dagger]

Anyone ever played with Coron before?

I have heard that his playstyle as a townie and as a scum is so radically different that it is not funny. If so, pray tell, does he act like a townie or a scum in this game?

Also, I think it'll be better if everyone simultaneously roll for each round, with a round ending after everyone has rolled. That way, the game will move faster.

Also, confirming my vote on Nocmen to get things started.

Confirm Vote: Nocmen

That effectively ends my random vote.

Here's a case on him, albeit a rather weak one:
1. He has yet to post again since page 2, therefore he is actively lurking.
2. He speculated on the deaths on Night 0, indicating he has inside information on it and was trying to dig out more info.
3. His random vote served no purpose since it was based on the roll of a die.

All these rub me the wrong way and as far as my guts is telling me as of now, he is scum.

[Dagger]

So guessing on what really happened over night is a scumtell? I dont see anything wrong with guessing, trying to see if we are dealing with two killing groups, a bomb, vig, etc.

As for lurking, there hasnt been anything to comment on.

In that case, you are the best lead I have at the moment. Opinion, guys?

[Dagger]

They want to lynch me because I'm doing well in terms of points as far as I can tell. Also, it seems Nocmen has 4 votes, any reason why?

I think based on your previous reasoning on not helping the others roll, you have a much higher chance of being a scum than ourselves, who knew with a certainty we are town?

Anyone else have a better case than Nocmen?

[Dagger]

I agree with coron. As for a better case than nocmen, maybe not, but without a deadline there's no reason to just accept a half-baked and weak one.

True. We'll just keep the discussion going on in the meantime.

At this point, I get the feel that both Thesp and Coron are town, although I do disagree with Coron.

For some reason, this jumps out at me as being scummy.

I looked at the last vote count, and I saw that Nocmen's vote on Thesp wasn't registered. I also see that Nocmen didn't correct the mod, which seems kind of weird, IMO.
I'm not reading too much into this, but I thought I'll mention it.[/b].

No one really commented on this, and I thought I would highlight it to see if there is any specualtion about it...

I suppose it's because he's intentionally lurking? In fact, I would like to hear from Nocmen regarding this.

OMG, my turn is after Admiral's!

[whine]Admiral...[/whine]

[Dagger]

Something that slipped my notice the first time round.

@I don't know about anybody else but I thought that meta gaming was generally a frowned-upon tactic. We should take each game on their own merits.

I have always thought that playstyle analysis was a valid strategy?

To answer your question, see EmpTyger's title.

I'm ok with lynching you

this game

because you're scummy. And you know it.

EmpTyger's title? What's that?

Also, can you elaborate on the 2nd sentence? I am highly curious now. You have played with Coron before, yes?

@Thesp: Thanks for the tips!

Also, can we like really really skip Admiral's turn?

[Dagger]

Great! My turn!

Original Roll String: 6d6

6 6-Sided Dice: (3, 2, 4, 1, 4, 6) = 20

[Dagger]

pull the 4s and 1 to get the points: 500

Done

@Admiral: Nothing new to add?

[Dagger]

We all need to lynch scummy people, and to me, I have not seen anything majorly scummy towards Coron (yet). If his goal is to focus more on Farkle than lynching scum, then let him do that. I have no problems with letting people play the game the way they want to do so. I sure as hell dont care about the dice aspect and points for now, as it seems there is a need of way too many points before something will actually come out of it.

Meaning you would do nothing in the meantime and just wait till somebody slips up?

@kilmenator: Your turn.

Let's speed up this game a bit. It's bad enough that most people post only when they have to roll.

[Dagger]

@Dagger, I hope you were not insinuating that I only post when I roll. That would be completely untrue.

No, I did not mean that. It was supposed to be separated. The second half was addressed to the town as a whole.

[Dagger]

Okay, I am going to

Unvote, Vote: Mojo

. I can't remember who I last placed my vote on.

I lost touch with the game for a while and right now I am voting who I think is likely to be a scum.

[Dagger]

Nai is still alive somewhere... somehow...

[Dagger]

And... it's still bird1111 turn.

[Dagger]

Checking in.

Where's Thesp?

[Dagger]

Still up for a Coron lynch.

Why? If I find your reason good enough, I might vote him.

[Dagger]

It's not my turn, is it? Also, I strongly dislike Coron's defenses of misrepresenting people.

How exactly did he misrepresent people? More specific please.

[Dagger]

3. Dagger

This ones more of a gut feeling, but it also has something to do with how he went from arguing with coron to defending him, sort of.

It was less of defending him and more of being suspicious of Thesp. His vote has been on Coron for what seemed like forever.

Apart from gut, I have, indeed, no other reason to vote for Coron.

How does Coron as a scum play?

[Dagger]

I am impatient.

Let's skip Adele's turn.

Dateline is on 11th.

No time.

And I don't agree with Farklefix.

[Dagger]

Slow.

And I barn Nocmen.

Vote: Cogito Ergo Scum

[Dagger]

I am willing to go either way, but I am more interested in at least someone winning the Farkle game first.

Another person's turn before mine. Urgh...

[Dagger]

Good point. Let's speed things up a bit then.

Unvote, Vote: Nocmen

I am interested in a claim.

[Dagger]

And finally it does. I had a good run, you'll find no complaints here.

OMG, I am starry-eyed. You are my idol.

I'm going to

vote:

cogito ergo scum

. I can see where people are coming from with the nocmen votes, but I just think ces has been completely one minded for little or no reason, and hasn't been helpful for the town otherwise.

Fine by me.

Original Roll String: 6d6

6 6-Sided Dice: (4, 1, 2, 1, 3, 1) = 12

[Dagger]

Remove a 5 = 50.

Original Roll String: 5d6

5 6-Sided Dice: (2, 6, 4, 5, 3) = 20

[Dagger]

Remove 1,1,1 = 1000

Score this round: 1050
Total Score: 1550

[Dagger]

kilmenator

It's your turn.

And maybe we can have some input at the same time.

[Dagger]

Unvote

I am inclined to trust that claim.

Now we go for CES, yes?

Also,

a3maniac

, your turn?

[Dagger]

So now we have to decide who he is to kill tonight, or if indeed that is necessary.

Why?

FOS: ThAdmiral

.

Two reasons:

1. the town can have two lynches

2. if he is a serial killer then he would be working for town anyway.

I would be happy if he didn't hit anyone tonight. We don't have any strong leads on anyone and should really only be looking to go for a kill if there's a cop investigation or something really suspicious in the next few days.

I disagree, I think he should kill as he sees fit, and I don't want him revealing who he will kill.

That is dangerous because there is still the remote possibility he's not a vig as was claimed.

[Dagger]

Dagger is here.

I would suggest we just go for the other option, i.e. CES, but it seems unlikely right now.

Original Roll String: 6d6

6 6-Sided Dice: (6, 2, 3, 6, 5, 1) = 23

[Dagger]

Take 5 = 50 out.

Original Roll String: 5d6

5 6-Sided Dice: (1, 1, 4, 1, 4) = 11

[Dagger]

Take 5 = 50 out.

Original Roll String: 4d6

4 6-Sided Dice: (4, 3, 6, 6) = 19

[Dagger]

Take 5 = 50 out.

It's getting repetitive.

Original Roll String: 3d6

3 6-Sided Dice: (6, 4, 6) = 16

[Dagger]

Take 1 = 100 out.

*shrugs*

Might as well.

[*dice]2d6[/dice]

[Dagger]

Original Roll String: 2d6

2 6-Sided Dice: (2, 2) = 4

[Dagger]

Farkle.

It's now kilmenator's turn.

[Dagger]

One less kill per night will prolong the number of days, which means more time for the town to do analysis, which can only be good for the town.

That, and I also agree with what Admiral said.

[Dagger]

I am here!

Vote: cogito ergo scum

for now while I do a reread.

[Dagger]

Done my reread.

I am still very happy with my vote on CES.

Two other people I am interested in would be Admiral and Thesp, but I would still go with CES for now.

[Dagger]

I think he meant whether town as in vanilla town or not vanilla, but still town.

[Dagger]

I knew someone said he or she supported a Coron's lynch due to gut on Day 1. Is that you, CES?

[Dagger]

@CES: Then, you should have stated you have a metagame reason to go after Coron on Day 1, right? Instead of claiming it was due to gut feeling when asked?

@Nocmen:
1. Frankly, I am more excited about the Farkle aspect of this game than the gameplay itself. I myself am in several games as of the moment (9 games, to be exact) and the distinguishing factor this game has over the others is the Farkle part.

2. The only thing I am absolutely certain of in this game is that I am town. While I am leaning town on you right now due to your vig claim and your absence of kill the night before, I cannot be absolutely certain you are town. It was even more so on Day 1, when I tend to go for who I think is the scummiest as of that point.

[Dagger]

Ah, okay... THAT metagame...

Yeah, now I get the point.

[Dagger]

So... why in the world would you want to block Coron even if he won the Farkle game? If he was town, the ability he gained could have helped us a lot. And that's not to mention if Coron might in fact be using a pro-town ability Night 1.

[Dagger]

If you think like this, there wouldn't be any good reason for a town roleblock to block someone ever. Unless you're 100% sure someone's scum.

I thought a town roleblocker only blocks the person who they think is scummy? (which might be valid in your case, but still...)

[Dagger]

I stated it because I wanted to make sure everyone knew it, I also wanted to show that scum have not finished him off yet, which if he is town, is quite interesting. Cause scum could have easily hammered.

I don't think this is an indication of anything. A scum hammering a fellow scum will score some points with the town anyway, so it works either way.

[Dagger]

Unvote

I have decided that I am against CES' lynch today.

And maybe Dagger, but there's really not much reason behind that. I don't like how he started the Nocmen wagon on day 1 out of nothing.

How about those barning the wagon that was made out of nothing?

Agreed.
I'll probably go after him tomorrow pending any interesting complications.

Here's an idea. How about going after me today? Let's discuss more. Discussion is good. No sense to leave it for tomorrow.

FoS: ThAdmiral

Vote: kilmenator

I'll take another good long hard look at Thesp if kilmenator comes up scum.

[Dagger]

I have read kilmenator's posts on Day 2 again and I don't like them at all. It reeks too much of "nudge, nudge, lynch CES, don't mind me, nudge, nudge".

Now, how about my question in which you are supposed to answer? Or are you going to pretend no such thing happened by ignoring it long enough?

[Dagger]

@Thesp: Let me ask you a theoretical question. Would you prefer a CES' lynch or a kilmenator's lynch and why?

@Dagger: well for one thing there was the lack of a vote when the deadline came. a) That's not very helpful for the town and b) unlike others who had simply disappeared you were active very close to the end.

a)I don't vote when I am uncertain (barring early game random vote), unlike scums who I think will vote so that a mislynch will occur.
b)And this is a point against me exactly how? I never abandon a game if I can help it and I always try to be constantly active at the very least.

Now comes the counter question. Why must you exactly leave this type of questioning till tomorrow?

Original Roll String: 6d6

6 6-Sided Dice: (1, 2, 4, 5, 6, 2) = 20

[Dagger]

Take 1 out = 100

Original Roll String: 5d6

5 6-Sided Dice: (1, 5, 5, 1, 4) = 16

[Dagger]

Take 1 out = 100

Original Roll String: 4d6

4 6-Sided Dice: (6, 3, 1, 5) = 15

[Dagger]

Take 1 and 5 out = 150

Stop.

Total points = 350

[Dagger]

As for your first point, you may refer to my a).

As for your second point, the difference between yesterday and today is that we know Coron is town. That made anyone who pushed hard at Coron's lynch the previous day an immediate logical suspect. CES is one such person.

As for your third point, I did provide a reason. I am far more interested in kilmenator now based on her interactions during the CES' wagon. Sure you can't miss it? I bolded my vote on her after all. Also, your attempt at insinuating that I jumped around on convenient wagons is an attempt at discrediting me as so far as I can see, I am the ONLY person on kilmenator's wagon.

As for your counter to my question, today is as good a day as tomorrow, though I won't pursue this line of argument anymore.

[Dagger]

The game was already resumed. >_>

Your roll is valid.

Lemme think this dilemma over.

[Dagger]

I would be perfectly happy with a push in Kilm's direction.

[Dagger]

I would be perfectly happy with a push in Kilm's direction.

y

[why?]

Because I think she is scum and I have a vote on her.

@ Mokina: but dagger told me to discuss stuff today....
Who am I supposed to listen to!!!

I would say listen to me but it's a biased viewpoint.

I'll post more later.

[Dagger]

I would be perfectly happy with a push in Kilm's direction.

y

[why?]

Because I think she is scum and I have a vote on her.

y

Because I think she is scum and I have a vote on her.

I want to know Dagger's reasoning for the vote.. I don't see why he's avoiding revealing it..

Oh, then why don't you say so directly instead of asking so vaguely?
Here:

@ Dagger: how about "discussing" why you're against lynching ces today, and why you're now voting kilmenator?

I have read kilmenator's posts on Day 2 again and I don't like them at all. It reeks too much of "nudge, nudge, lynch CES, don't mind me, nudge, nudge".

[Dagger]

@ Dagger-
Your case against me is that I have been pushing a CES lynch? That is your whole case? Because if that is your case, that is a pretty ridiculous case.

It's not that you have been pushing for his lynch, but it's more of how you went about to push for it.

[Dagger]

@ Dagger-
Your case against me is that I have been pushing a CES lynch? That is your whole case? Because if that is your case, that is a pretty ridiculous case.

It's not that you have been pushing for his lynch, but it's more of how you went about to push for it.

And what was scummy about that?

Very. "nudge, nudge, lynch CES, don't mind me, nudge, nudge".

Cogito Ergo Scum, are you a miller?

A simple yes or no will suffice, I don't want to hear any other details of your role, whether you have them or not. I also think all millers should claim.

If he is, he'll say. You definitely don't need to ask.

[Dagger]

I would be very much interested in lynching kilm today and leaving mokina for tomorrow.

For now though, I am highly curious at to bertrand's point of view on the current matters.

[Dagger]

I am having bad vibes from Thesp during his latest exchange. >_>

FYI, no, I am not voting for CES, I am voting for kilmenator.

My gut says she is scum. And I am going to apply the thought that you, as mokina's replacement, might be her scum buddy.

[Dagger]

Two questions:

1) What is your case against Kilmenator?

2) If Kilmenator is scum, what makes you think that I'm her scumbuddy?

1. >_>... The way she tried to push for a CES' lynch.

2. The fact that I don't exactly feel good about your predecessor AND that she somewhat defended Kilm. In fact, there is another possibility which I am not willing to discuss at the moment. Which was why I would prefer Kilm over you.

What did you think about SSF's comments?

Pretty normal.

It's the fact that you went gung-ho over it that made me paid more than the usual attention on it... and your responses about it.

A miller role seems very fishy to claim...

Is there any chance of a cop in this game? I am thinking yes right now...

Thesp was the one bringing up the miller claim in the first place.

And it will benefit us all if you all stop talking about the damn cop, not that I am one of course.

[Dagger]

I so swear that I am going to stab myself if we are going for another no lynch.

[Dagger]

@ I dont think a rash lynch will help us at all, the deadline is drawing closer and we don't have much clue of what step to take next...

A rash lynch is better than another no lynch.

If CES is already lynched though, then I am not going to bother any more today. We'll deal with the repercussion tomorrow.

Can anyone else confirm it's really a lynch? How about the mod?

[Dagger]

We'll assume the deadline is on Friday 10th then, since it's the Mod's fault for being unclear. :p

How about those still not voting make their votes known for the black and white record?

[Dagger]

This game is rigged. >_>

[Dagger]

What exactly are we supposed to do right now?

[Dagger]

Can't you like just mod-roll for him or something like that?

[Dagger]

Here's the thing.

I thought CES was lynched already and all we are doing right now is waiting for the current round of farkle to end so that we can move on to night.

Or am I wrong in that assumption?

[Dagger]

CES was townie roleblocker or mafia roleblocker?

[Dagger]

Vote: Death Omen

Don't worry, you'll survive. We still have a doc.

No lynch day one, town lynch day two. Things aren't looking very good.
I was sure ces would be scum.

I'm going to look back and attempt some serious analysis.

Minor ping to scumdar.

[Dagger]

We need input from the others, and more specifically, from one Death Omen.

[Dagger]

Me neither.

Confirm Vote

[Dagger]

Since you were confirmed by kilm, I am inclined to go along with this.

It'll make me happy if you are the one to choose who gets to claim first.

[Dagger]

Are you a permanent cop or just a one off thing?

I don't think this is a question I should answer.

You got that right.

Who else is still playing this game?

[Dagger]

1 of said 4 players is here.

I say just let Thesp pick who should be the first to claim and we'll roll from there.

[Dagger]

*nudge*

We need to get a move on.

[Dagger]

*nudge*

We need to get a move on.

Okay. Claim or die.

I am a simple townie.

Nooo! Don't kill me!

[Dagger]

EBWODP: I am interested in Admiral next.

[Dagger]

Note: I'm not sure I believe Dagger, but I'm in a bad position to point that out... whoops? I just did? Oh well..

I could say the same of ya, but let's reserve judgment until this whole thing is over, shall we?

[Dagger]

@Jordan: I will be awaiting one from you then.

@Thesp: Result would be nice right now.

[Dagger]

Since two confirmed townies are against me, I am not going to bother defending myself.

The only scums I can see at this point are Betrand or Admiral. Gameplay-wise I would say Admiral. Claim-wise I would say Betrand. The problem now here is whether Admiral is falseclaiming or not since he claimed to protect Kilm last night.

Since I am really a vanilla, I am assuming Betrand is the last scum here. At any rate, if I am a betting man, my bet would be on Betrand.

And since I have given my opinion, feel free to vote/hammer me anytime.

GoGo.

[Dagger]

Actually, Admiral may be the scum here because unless the mafia can roleblock (I assuming there is only a scum left) AND kill at the same night, it's impossible his protect on Kilm would fail.

[Dagger]

EBWOTP: Actually, why are we giving Admiral a pass here? In order for his protect to fail, someone definitely have to roleblock him and if such is the case, the person who roleblocked him wouldn't be able to kill Kilm. It's almost certain that he's lying about being the doc.

The town decides of course.

Cheerio.

[Dagger]

Unless I was told there were no doctors in this game why would I claim doctor as a mafiate?

No idea. It's not really my problem now anyway. It's for the town to figure out tomorrow, if there is one.

Go town~~~

Don't die on me.

[Dagger]

W00T!

Town win! Heh.

Argh, dam you cop! Without the cop I doubt i would have ever got lynched.

That is why most games have some sort of investigative power. Usually, I am not a very good cop at all, I suck at it, I am an even worse Doctor.

The town effectively have a cop, with 2 more one-shot cops. Everything should indicate the existence of a godfather.

When Admiral was killed at night, I actually had a sinking feeling either one of Thesp or Jordan was it.

I am so glad it wasn't.

Now, was I really that scummy this game?

[Dagger]

>_>

So, Kilm needn't die in all actuality?

Luckily the town won then.