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Nice to know I can read just one game to get a feel on practically everyone's playstyles.Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk.-
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Oh, that's a relief.
I'd hate to have to read the first letter of every one of your paragraphs specially to make sure you weren't breadcrumbing a future fake claim.Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk.-
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That's what you think, BigBear.
Human nature is to slip up, so no one is too good.
Even the best mafia players make mistakes sometimes.
Far_Cry, I was making reference to this game.
Lots of our players participated in it.
You can see if you read it the game that BigBear made this fakeclaim.
It was supported by this fake breadcrumb.
No doubt, BigBear is unlikely to pull the stunt again, town or scum.
Going to guess he doesn't.
People don't change.
Unless there is some reason to.
Mainly because of getting caught.
Playstyles do change.
Kind of think BigBear's would.
In the event he is town or the event he is scum, he is likely to try to avoid acting like his scum meta.
Nearly everyone tries to do that.
That's what I was saying.
He played interestingly that game.
All I wanted to do was point that out.
That's all.
So, when do you guys think nook is going to get here?
He is a pretty new to MafiaScum, I think.
One wonders what his play is going to be like.
One wonders what everyone's play is going to be like.
Though if nook confirms, we can all find out.
Sweet.
Last two games I replaced in.
Always coming in with plenty of game to analyze.
So starting a game is going to be pretty fun.
Excited? You bet.
Random votes, here I come.
BigBear, do you think this post is going on too long?
Even I'm getting a little tired of it.
All I'm hoping is that it doesn't sound too awkward.
Meaning I don't want this to sound stilted at all.
Sort of ruins the effect.
Only a few more words to go.
Until this post is complete.
Thank goodness.
Oh yeah.
For real.
I think that's almost it.
Thanks for reading.
Soon I'll be done.
Aaaand that's a wrap.
Sayonara!
Sanjay out.Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk.-
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Nice distancing, nook and looker. You two are obv-scum.
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Thanks! I'm pretty proud of it.BigBear wrote:
Btw, that link in your siggy is amazing. I cried a few times.Sanjay wrote:I forgive you.Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk.-
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And there's the chainsaw defense.
Pretty pleased with myself for finding all three scum in just two pages.Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk.-
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I thought three scum was standard for a twelve person setup. After we lynch nook, Looker and BigBear, if the game isn't over, I'll re-evaluate that assumption.Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk.-
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I'm glad DRK and Shrinehme have been so easy to convince.
It's so frustrating when you figure out all the scum but can't convince the rest of the town to lynch them.
Peabody will come around I'm sure.Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk.-
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Looks like I successfully dodged this question.Peabody wrote:Sanjay, are you being serious?
I guess now we'll never know.Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk.-
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Shrinehme, I know in this instance you wouldn't, but as a general rule do you follow Lynch All Name Butchers?Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk.-
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So much so that you abandoned your seemingly non-random vote on DeathRowKitty to put a vote on name butchery Shrinehme?
Was your vote on DeathRowKitty less than serious or do you really hate Name Butchers that much?Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk.-
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nook, Looker: It really makes no difference to me since I know you are both scum and we'll get the other one tomorrow, but do you guys have a preference which one of you the town lynches first?Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk.-
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I didn't drop you. I just want to keep you around the longest because you are actually posting, and that's so much more fun.Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk.-
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Oh, is that why you asked me the more neutral "Are you being serious?" in response to that quote the first time?
Because I have to say, that question didn't make a whole lot of sense.Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk.-
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Unless it cramps your style, could one or both of you two get avatars?Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk.-
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Far_Cry, was it really necessary to call nook an idiot? Can't we save the personal attacks for post-game?
Also, why are you so eager to get out of the random voting stage?Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk.-
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DRK, the bolded portions of your quote seem a bit contradictory to me. Would you mind explaining away the contradiction for me?DeathRowKitty wrote:This really looks to me like making a big deal out of nothing, even for the RVS. I could be wrong, but I'm fairly certain BB is either trying to be lynchbait to get us out of the RVS or is just playing around (hopefully I didn't just give him an excuse...).BB's actions thus far would be terrible scum play and I have a hard time believing that it is scum play. Considering that FC hadn't commented on BB's play (besides saying BB needed to stop saying stupid things), a vote out of the blue based on a no lynch vote seems like FC reaching to get a bandwagon started on BB, especially whenthere was legitimate evidence to bring up against BB.Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk.-
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So what exactly was your rationale for dropping the vote on DeathRowKitty? Surely that was more provocative than the vote you changed it to.Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk.-
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No offense to Looker, but this is a terrible theory.ConfidAnon wrote:
To be honest . . . . that's not that bad of a theory.Looker wrote:Okay, just throwing it out there, shoot it down if you want.
You get the most votes, the closest to a lynch, and then BigBear votes no lynch.
Far_Cry votes BigBear for wanting a no lynch.
You vote Far_Cry.
Shoot it down.
One thing holding me back: I've seen BigBear play as scum. He's competent, and voting No Lynch is horrible scum play.
Firstly, it supposes that BigBear is stupid enough both to believe that the RVS wagon on Shrinehme is enough of a threat to his scumbuddy to take drastic action.
Secondly, it supposes that BigBear is stupid enough to believe voting no lynch would work. Sure, it could serve to distract from his scumbuddy, but I don't really see how distracting from your scumbuddy by heaping a bunch of suspicion on yourself is a good idea.
Thirdly, it supposes that scum are going to vote to help out their scumbuddies even in the random voting stage, when the threat of lynching is very low.
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You supporting a theory that is rubbish is what warranted the vote, ConfidAnon.Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk.-
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That's because I respect you, ConfidAnon, and have a tough time believing you actually thought that theory was good.
I think you just said it was because you were trying to be chummy, or at worst because you were trying to spread ungrounded suspicions, both which ARE scumtells.Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk.-
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And casting suspicion on a lot of people so you can support favorable lynches later is a genuine scum tactic. That's why my vote is on you, ConfidAnon.Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk.-
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Looker, what do you think of my allegation that your theory is so bad that ConfidAnon is scummy just for supporting it?Looker wrote:Okay, just throwing it out there, shoot it down if you want.
You get the most votes, the closest to a lynch, and then BigBear votes no lynch.
Far_Cry votes BigBear for wanting a no lynch.
You vote Far_Cry.
Shoot it down.Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk.-
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That's just fine with me.
Unvote
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Where you at?Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk.-
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Oh, I'm really glad SOMEONE is observing what is going on. I totally forgot!
What have you seen? Who is the scummiest to you right now?Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk.-
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Well, if I convince brothernature to tell us who he thinks is the most suspicious, and you convince him to vote for someone, maybe...
I don't know. I thought I had an idea of how those two things could go together, but I guess I lost it.Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk.-
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I've read EtherealCookie's posts a couple of times and I really can't get much of a read on him. The first bunch of pages of this game have been steeped in irony and sarcasm, and that kind of playstyle makes EtherealCookie's posts hard to read.Shrinehme wrote:What are your thoughts on EtherealCookie?
I think he might have gotten worse since DeathRowKitty because he didn't like being called the most useless.
I wouldn't mind him as a day 1 lynch, but I'd rather lynch someone I have a scummy read on.Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk.-
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If the town is going to lynch the jester no matter what, wouldn't the best way to deal with the possibility of a jester be to declare that we lynch all jesters and if you'd like to be lynched then come on down and we'd be happy to oblige you?
I assume we don't have a jester so it's not really that important, but what's with all this "best play with a jester is probably not to mention it". Mention it and have an easy lynch choice that day.Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk.-
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I know we were just joking around here, nook, but what was your rationale for not voting for me back there on page 3?nook wrote:
You. I am hereby counterclaiming your breadcrumb. I get to shoot the lasers out of my rear end, not you.Sanjay wrote:nook, Looker: It really makes no difference to me since I know you are both scum and we'll get the other one tomorrow, but do you guys have a preference which one of you the town lynches first?Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk.-
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Could you elaborate on what kind of a tell you feel appeal to emotion is and why?Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk.-
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Pretty sure js stands for "just saying", but thanks for the attention!Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk.-
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I'm kind of lurking because turns out joking about knowing exactly who the mafia is during the random voting stage isn't nearly as helpful towards creating useful discussion as I could have hoped.Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk.-
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EtherealCookie, could you summarize the case against you and then explain why we shouldn't be moved by it?Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk.-
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Zaz, would you mind telling me which of my posts are ambiguous to you?
I don't actually consider Lynch All Name Butchers a reliable tactic and I didn't really think I caught all the scum in the random voting stage and I am not actually a flying pumpkin.
What posts from what players were giving you trouble exactly?Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk.-
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Hey, Looker, has everyone talked who you wanted to talk before you answered my question about what you thought about me calling your theory all dumb and stuff?Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk.-
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Thanks for ignoring this,Sanjay wrote:Oh, I'm really glad SOMEONE is observing what is going on. I totally forgot!
What have you seen? Who is the scummiest to you right now?brothernature.Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk.-
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If Cookie isn't scum, I think he is promising lynch bait. And now that I look at it again, I don't especially like ConfidAnon's vote of EtherealCookie:
Something about it just doesn't sit right to me. Maybe accusing a post that announces it is jumping on a bandwagon of bandwagoning seems too lazy or something.ConfidAnon wrote:
This vote does not seem protown at all. It practically screams bandwagon.EtherealCookie wrote:Shrinehme wrote:Looker is likely Godfather; Sanjay merely a Goon.
I don't know how he knows a godfather even exists. Honestly, half the posts in this thread aren't serious.
I don't like Far Cry's personal attacks, but I don't see anything scummy with him.
I'm just jumping on the Shrinehme bandwagon because I don't get good vibes from him.
Vote: Shrinehme
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And maybe it is trying to confuse anti-town actions with scummy actions.
FoS: ConfidAnon
I'm also a bit curious of this post by Peabody.
Peabody, at the end of this post you suggest a Far_Cry/EtherealCookie scum pair, while to me it doesn't look like you've provided any evidence for a connection between these players at all. What am I missing here?
To me it just looks like a whole lot of individual scumtells. Maybe you know one of them is scum and you are trying to set-up a mislynch in case said scumbuddy gets lynched, perhaps?
Please elaborate on why you thought at that point a Far_Cry/EtherealCookie pair was likely enough to mention.
FoS: Peabody
Looker, could you explain why you delayed answering my question? Given your answer, I see no reason why you had to wait for any of the people you wanted to wait for.
This is what you told me:
I really fail to see how it depended on those posts. Explain to me how your answer would have changed based on those peoples' responses. What were you thinking exactly?Looker wrote:The answer to that question depends on further posts from BigBear, Far_Cry, Shrine, & Cookie; however, BigBear & Far_Cry have disappeared. Iwillanswer your question, but I'd like for them to get back first. Will that be alright?
I had taken your theory to be some kind of joke to try to get a rise out of people, but now that I find out you were seriously floating it, I think I'm gonna throw you a vote, for trying to create undue suspicion and for dodging my question for no good reason.
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Good point.ZazieR wrote:Oh, come on! He has ignored that question since Page 7. 1 page more doesn't hurt after all those pages of ignoring it. My question on the other hand is brand new
brothernature, please answer ZazieR's question and if you still have time enough after that could you get to mine?Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk.-
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Yes, actually.ZazieR wrote:Post 36 – Any reason why Nook over Looker,Sanjay?
I had just read a game with Looker and he seemed like a player that was probably not liable to drastically overreact during the random voting stage. I hadn't ready any such games with nook so I thought the vote would be better placed on him to see if he might do something interesting.
They hadn't done anything and I figured they wouldn't ignore their names in big bold letters.ZazieR wrote:Post 68 – If this wasn’t serious, then why did you ask this question,Sanjay?
I've heard some people say eagerness to get out of the RVS was a scumtell. I don't know if I necessarily buy it as a scumtell, but I thought it was worth asking about, especially because it didn't seem like Far_Cry had a lot to move out of the RVS with.ZazieR wrote:Post 88 –Sanjay, why did you ask the question about the RVS?
Was that supposed to read "lots of assumptionsZazieR wrote:Post 116 – First, lots of assumptions to destroy a theory. Secondly, why did you vote Confid over Looker,Sanjay? Don’t like it that it’s based upon disagreement.dodestroy a theory" or something? Because those assumptions are ones you have to make to support the theory, not destroy it. And I think all of those assumptions are pretty hard to believe.
I voted for Confid over Looker because I thought Looker was joking.
I wasn't feeling that enthusiastic about my ConfidAnon vote so I figured I'd move it, and I wasn't getting exceptionally strong reads from anyone, and I thought it'd be nice to hear from brothernature.ZazieR wrote:Post 166 – What was the reason behind this vote,Sanjay?Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk.-
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Don't think I am ignoring your grandmother's wisdom, but why aren't you voting for the person on top of your scumlist?ZazieR wrote:And with that, I'm done and fully caught up ^.^
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Also, thanks, Zazie, for giving this game a much needed kick in the pants.Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk.-
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Cool. I'm also still curious about why you asked people about how serious they were.
Apparently I was wrong about Looker and his theory, but for the most part I thought stuff was pretty clear.Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk.-
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brothernature, if that's all you can come up with, I don't think your sitting and observing is really justified. Unless you explain to me how posting random shit and distracting the town is a scum-tell, you are basically telling me that after all the observing you have observed basically nothing.brothernature wrote:Lulz is it really that hard to put all of that into one post instead of spamming up two pages? And yes, I'm a fan of Higurashi.
Like I said, I'm observing and lurking, just not posting. He asked where I was. I told him I was lurking.Zaz wrote:Post 169 – Why aren’t you discussing, while observing, brothernature? Also, noted that you showed right up after a player voted for you.
Indeed I do.Zaz wrote:You lurk and instead of giving your own intake, you ask for the opinion of the new guy? What’s up with that, brothernature?
Actually, I'm pretty sure I've never posted any content whatsoever.Zaz wrote:At least he has posted content, something you haven't done since a while. How come?
And to Sanjay, I really don't like Cookie right now. He's posting all this random shit and distracting the town, making it harder for us to get stuff done. My random shit, however, is more so on topic, just in a jokingly way, most the time.
When are you planning on posting your thoughts on the game, exactly? Is it a matter of piling votes on you? Because I'm sure there are a bunch of players that would be happy to oblige.Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk.-
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Looker, I hope you realize that having someone justify their actions with a formula isn't that much more satisfying than them justifying their actions with their gut. I love the idea that you are looking for patterns and trying to beat the system, but don't forget that you have to also convince us you aren't scum and convince us that the people you want lynched are scum.Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk.-
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I don't think thinking of Mafia as a waiting game is the best approach.
While you can't catch scum right off the bat, from your very first post you can affect the store of information the town has. Catching scum or getting favorable mislynches is just the payoff of lots of work affecting that store of information.
Tell me more of this formula of yours. You can be vague if talking about it ruins its value, but I definitely want to hear more.Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk.-
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I'm starting to think that maybe the reason brothernature isn't posting as much is because we aren't talking about brothernature's favorite topic of conversation.
Everyone! Have you ever noticed how pro-town brothernature is? He probably has the town win condition, don't you think?Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk.-
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