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Scum's worst nightmare, eh DGB?
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Yes, the scum gave you the bomb. Probably more likely that they want you dead asap, and they dont think you would be easy to blow up, than they believe you will blow up a townie.DrippingGoofball wrote:That's my kind of instruction manual. Short and sweet.
So yeah, the scum gave me the bomb. Now say, who on the player list least believes in my scumdar?Mod wrote:Scum gives a bomb to a townie
Townie blows up some shit
BM, is there anything you want to say before you die?
I haven't seen all that many black busses lately. Ya racist bastard.DrippingGoofball wrote:Wow, and the first vote is a bus.Battle Mage wrote:also...Vote: Jex
I wouldn't give you the Bomb. Not early on anyway, because you do come off as a naturally scummy player. Although, on the flipside, we're mates, and if i chose you, you might be less likely to kill me.DrippingGoofball wrote:Hey BM... I know it was your idea to give me the bomb. Do you regret it now?
1 day of it is MORE than enoughforbiddanlight wrote:Interesting. A shame though, I don't get to see the ridiculous playstyle of DGB in action because you blow up today. So is there actually a voting phase? Seems kinda counter intuitive.
Probably 1 of the people who would encourage killing you on Night 0 in a normal game.DrippingGoofball wrote:BM, who would have given me the bomb, and why? Theories please.Battle Mage wrote:you do realise how lame this game is gonna be if we both die today, right?
No you wouldnt. You'd do it so that the WIFOM leads the town to mislynch after mislynch after mislynchTwomz wrote:Random? Thought out to get rid of a player (DGB) or thought out because they doubt the player will hit one of them?
I doubt it's completely random, although, that's how I would do it to make all the finger pointing and WIFOMing just townie paranoia.
MOD:There are no lynches, so the mafia has to exceed the number of townies to win? Because if they equal the number of townies a perfect endgame still allows for a draw, or do they just default at that point?
Have you ever heard of the phrase 'too random'?Iron Man wrote:Wow.
Random Vote: Silent Speakerfor defying the laws of logic.
*slow clapping*Jex wrote:so, this is pretty much a kings game, except we know the one with the bomb is townie, correct?
vote haschel cedricsonbecause I can never trust him.
Both.Iron Man wrote:I've never heard of suck a thing.Battle Mage wrote:Have you ever heard of the phrase 'too random'?
Oh, and apparently there is no lynches? Is this true or am I being stupid?
Don't come all high and mighty with me! According to my role pm, you're as much a filthy scumbag as i am!alvinz95 wrote:BM is obvscumVote: Battle Mage
People voted in Kingmaker. Actually, i think the logical kill Day 1 would be KScope. Let's face it, if there's one person you'd really HATE to see win as scum, it'd be someone un-meta-able like him.DrippingGoofball wrote:Correct. The real comedy here is the people voting. Especially BM, who has even voted twice... it's like TWO cream pies in the face, self served.Crazy wrote:If I understand this right:
This is Kingmaker, but the scum are the Kingmakers.
DGB is the Queen. She is confirmed innocent. She can kill someone whenever she feels like it. When she does, both of them will explode and we'll go to night.
And I think DGB was the obvious choice, just for comedic value.
Thanks for the seal of approval. Tomorrow night, maybe you could be a bit more chatty?Crazy wrote:If I understand this right:
This is Kingmaker, but the scum are the Kingmakers.
DGB is the Queen. She is confirmed innocent. She can kill someone whenever she feels like it. When she does, both of them will explode and we'll go to night.
And I think DGB was the obvious choice, just for comedic value.
Don't give the kid what he wants!M4yhem wrote:Creampie TDC in da face
Better get a bomb first eh? lolJordanA24 wrote:SILENCE! I KILL YOU!Battle Mage wrote:why is that, my friend? is it because, you are...
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SCUM?
BM
why?JordanA24 wrote:Probs armlxBattle Mage wrote:lol we need to turn this thread into a tribute to Comedy before my untimely death!
But, just so we stay kinda on-topic, who would you give a Bomb to if u were the scum?
BM
Not really. Wacky as you may be, you aren't a complete moron. Plus, i reckon you'll milk your position of power till Page 10 at the very least!DrippingGoofball wrote:I sure would be interested myself. I'm already shocked with my self-restraint not blowing up BM. Very much out of character.forbiddanlight wrote:Probably anyone who is interested in how chaotic DGB will be with a bomb in her hands.
Crazy wrote:Genius!TDC wrote:Mhm... Banana.
Guys, TDC is confirmed town now. If you can't see how, you're most definitely scum.
It also gives us insight into how people might behave. It's probably WIFOM, but i think it's a good place to start.armlx wrote:Sure, but the issue is less meta and more possibly revealing good scum lines of action.Why? It's just meta stuffz. And I'm sure with this group, the scum have plenty of meta knowledge between them already.
rofl! A worthy cause indeed!JordanA24 wrote:So you have a fighting chance at getting more posts than him lol.Battle Mage wrote:why?JordanA24 wrote:Probs armlxBattle Mage wrote:lol we need to turn this thread into a tribute to Comedy before my untimely death!
But, just so we stay kinda on-topic, who would you give a Bomb to if u were the scum?
BM
why are you asking questions which have already been asked in order to pretend to contribute?Max wrote:Right, when did this game begin. I don't think most people haven't realised the game has started lol.
Anyway, DGB *cries* How could you leave us? I blame your play-style.
I have a question to people, why do you think they've gone with DGB, have they gone with someone who is too good to live or with someone who will avoid killing them? *Confuzzled*
killing a lurker isn't what i'd normally call a 'policy lynch'. Killing YOU would be a policy lynch, sure. But killing a lurker is merely a way of minimising risk on Day 1.armlx wrote:Bad BM, suggesting policy lynches? On D1? With no deadline?If you really think about it, the best option today is to blow up somebody not contributing-unless somebody actually acts scummy. That's the only real case i can give for not killing me. lol
lol valid point.Armlx wrote: BM's last post isn't bad, I'd also like to add why he felt the need to commit the "OMG, X is dead!!11!!1!" tell too.
^This. Did i mention, i'm 100% sure this guy is town?M4yhem wrote:Surely we can analyse for a month or so and then still kill a lurker?
Someone always lurks.
So while killing a lurker right now is a bad idea, in a few weeks it could work.
Yes it has. I should know. I asked it.Max wrote:It hasn't been asked before.Battle Mage wrote:why are you asking questions which have already been asked in order to pretend to contribute?Max wrote:Right, when did this game begin. I don't think most people haven't realised the game has started lol.
Anyway, DGB *cries* How could you leave us? I blame your play-style.
I have a question to people, why do you think they've gone with DGB, have they gone with someone who is too good to live or with someone who will avoid killing them? *Confuzzled*
Unvote, Vote: Max
BM
'find out'? You think by asking the town how the scum behave, we will get aMax wrote:I'm doing it for serious, because this is such an experimental game I'm trying to get a feeling for the opposition, if we find out how they picked their first player we may be able to form a good idea of the Meta used in this game
Nothing.armlx wrote:What do we have to gain from killing a lurker in a few weeks?
I agree with Armlx. Omg...armlx wrote:Again, you asked a question that had already been answered.....
rofl. So, that means the scum could be anybody...except you. amirite?Coron wrote:I suspect the scum are made up of people who have been around for around or under 2 years, but with at least one person with a good amount of experience. I could be right or wrong, but this is my general feel so far.
Right now I'm going toFoS: M4yhem
Please explain this psychology for me. And alsoCoron wrote:You, because you are scum.M4yhem wrote:Why me, Coron?I just think that the psychology of the person who picked DGB is that of a person with less than 2 years on MS, but with significant experience. Also, I'm not saying that people with more than ~2 years of experience couldn't be scum, I just think it's less likely.Battousai wrote:Coron, any reason why? And, how will that help us (scum are made up of people who have been here less than 2 years, and more than 2 years)
Are you their spokesman or something?Crazy wrote:What's so great about killing lurkers?
Or am I missing a joke here?
but lets face it. Given that there are numerous scum, and DGB gets about it, that doesnt really narrow us down alotM4yhem wrote:My role pm says different.
Can you expand on this 'psychology' or is it a secret?
I'm thinking whoever picked DGB will have played at least one game with her...unless it was random.
have you got a stutter irl too?Coron wrote:By good amount of experience I don't mean like you, me, DGB(well obv not DGB), etc, I mean like maybe BM, M4yhem, or Max. Who have played a good number of games but aren't super ancient like us.x. Who have played a good number of games but aren't super ancient like us.armlx wrote:I agree with DoS and Coron, except I'm not sure a really strong experience player is in the scum group for reasons that if discussed would probably just direct scum "kills" better.
I dont think this is majorly concerning. I'd still like to hear what you think an experienced player would do, because i don't want your comments to affect the course of the game without due examination.Coron wrote:The slower people learn my magic tricks the longer I can use them. Also, in this case explaining why I think this involves explaining what an experienced(better), mafia member would do in this case, and so they would start enacting the plan starting tomorrow.M4yhem wrote:Can you expand on this 'psychology' or is it a secret?
GOOD CORON! *Strokes chin*Coron wrote:I suspect this is correct.M4yhem wrote:I'm thinking whoever picked DGB will have played at least one game with her...unless it was random.
unFoS: m4yhemfor now. I feel like his response was genuine.
I agree with the entirety of this post.M4yhem wrote:BM- Yeah, I know. For one thing, DGB has a reputation; I heard of her before I ever played with her. So I don't think we'll get anywhere trying to work out who would have set her up the bomb.
Crazy- Have you ever heard of 'lynch all lurkers'? Well, I agree with it. Town lurkers are a dead weight, scum lurkers are a deadly plague. Better to get rid of a lurker than someone active at this point; active scum trip over themselves more easily and killing one lurker will encourage the others to post.
Coron- You still haven't explained why you think the scum are experienced.
It seems pretty self-explanatory. And jesus christ! Can you try and organise ur quotes a bit better? My eyes started bleeding...Coron wrote:explain this.Battle Mage wrote: Why would you FoS M4yh3m when he is obvtown?
Are you already sinking to insults? In case you haven't been reading, i still want an answer to the question.Coron wrote:kkdf;lxdo0ser9hjho949ekl;ds';Battle Mage wrote: Please explain this psychology for me. And alsoHoS: Coronfor trying to run up M4yhem.
Ok, that right there had as much actual content as your post. Just sayin'.
Do you often repeat yourself then?Coron wrote:Stutter? I have no idea what you're even talking about...Battle Mage wrote: have you got a stutter irl too?
BM
*Sorry, that was a bit harsh. If you do, i'll feelslightlyguilty now.
Coron wrote:You can take my suspicions with as much as a grain of salt as you want, but they are MY suspicions, and you can't make ME not take them into account.Battle Mage wrote: I dont think this is majorly concerning. I'd still like to hear what you think an experienced player would do, because i don't want your comments to affect the course of the game without due examination.
Did you REALLY just say that?Coron wrote:EBWODP: I guess I want people to trust me partially on reputation, and also want to get people thinking about this. I also want to be able to point and say "See? I called it!" When the game is over. It's quite possible I'm wrong, in which case I might look a bit foolish, but I still think I'm right.
^5M4yhem wrote:Well the only thing I know about you from the games we've played together so far, Coron, is that you have a tendency to lurk. So your reputation won't make much difference to me.
don't give him lifelinesM4yhem wrote: Why wouldn't an extremly experienced scum pick DGB? Because she's clever? Because she tends to get lynched?
Oh, that's ok then!armlx wrote:And merofl. So, that means the scum could be anybody...except you. amirite?![]()
we've had this discussion elsewhere. The overwhelming majority preferred numerous small posts to fewer massive posts. The rest of you can grow up.Armlx wrote:BM post all this shit in one post, Please, I'm tired of seeing three of your posts right in a freaking row.
I havent read the sign-up thread rules. And i'm still not asking really dumb questions.M4yhem wrote:But there were rules on the sign up thread. If you signed up, you must have had a minimum understanding of the game.alvinz95 wrote:M4yhem, there is NO game rules on this thread (scum gives a bomb, and the townie blows up shit, thats all). A fos for people who don't understand is unecessary.
No, i mean, you had them all bunched together with no spaces, so when i quoted your post to respond, everything was a massive block of text that i had to try and decipher.Coron wrote:I will if you organize your posts a bit better. Also, if you're going to say something explain what about the "organization" of the quotes is bad. I have them in the order that comments were posted in the thread.Battle Mage wrote:It seems pretty self-explanatory. And jesus christ! Can you try and organise ur quotes a bit better? My eyes started bleeding...
Ooh, i'm actually crapping myself. The power of books is NOTHING compared to the power of TEH INTERNETZ.Coron wrote:When people ask me the same things over and over. Then I get angry at them and throw books.Battle Mage wrote:Do you often repeat yourself then?
I'm not sure what's funnier. The fact you used a cool insult, or the fact you are making up words as you go along. roflCoron wrote:Your mom. Again, you're making completely unbased insultsBattle Mage wrote:If that was your main concern, you wouldnt have posted this shit in the first place. ftr.
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Really? Can you please post games to back this up? Because, personally, i cant recall 1 game we shared together.Coron wrote: I feel that in mafia you let the other players know what you suspect whether or not you think that your stance will change their position. For instance I could say, I think BM is scum because he is not acting the same way I've seen him act as town in games I've been in, but rather is acting more like he does as scum.
I don't actually care. Whether you are a good player or not, is irrelevant. In case you hadn't noticed, this is a MAFIA game. The concept of Mafia is that there are a group called the 'Mafia', who you can't trust. They are baddies, and regardless of how good they are, their aim is to mislead you. You mustn't trust them.Coron wrote:Do I have a reputation for being a complete moron? I certainly hope not. If you want to see someone who played very well, and often times did good things when people followed him mostly based on reputation, look at some Internet stranger games. He was an excellent player that I can only hope to be 2/3rds as good as, or at least that's the party line.Battle Mage wrote:Did you REALLY just say that?
You want people to...trust you on REPUTATION!? 0.o
I'm lost for words...
BM
ugh. Grow up...Coron wrote: Oh, and when I'm right this time, please remember it for next time. Thanks.
actually, they ARE. lolforbiddanlight wrote:Last I checked, a town body is a town body. The more town dead, the higher chance there is for scum win. So, they AREN'T completely useless.no, but it means they are completely useless, and may as well be dead.
being a lurker does not make you 100% protown?Crazy wrote:Yeah, but scum are even more useless.Battle Mage wrote:no, but it means they are completely useless, and may as well be dead.
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like you do, ya mean?Coron wrote:so basically you're just being whiny. There is a very easy way to quote my posts to say everything you need to say about it. press the quote button, find the end of the text that comes upBattle Mage wrote: No, i mean, you had them all bunched together with no spaces, so when i quoted your post to respond, everything was a massive block of text that i had to try and decipher.
Have you got a webcam? I REALLY wanna see this!Coron wrote:this is a general case, obviously in this case I can not throw I book at you(well, I could if I knew in which general direction you lived, but that's beside the point).Battle Mage wrote:Ooh, i'm actually crapping myself. The power of books is NOTHING compared to the power of TEH INTERNETZ.![]()
thats gotta be the worst example ever. 0.oCoron wrote:I'm down with making up words, as long as they're easily understandable. For instance, if I say "I hulked my shirt the other day" you would totally know what I meant, even though hulk is not technically a verb.Battle Mage wrote:I'm not sure what's funnier. The fact you used a cool insult, or the fact you are making up words as you go along. rofl
That's the problem, Mr Idiot. Ya see, your scenario was that, you would give a meta regardless of whether it existed or not, because that was your opinion. My point is that, because you have no grounds to make this meta, your opinion is invalid. Which is why i'm criticising your 'opinions' so far.Coron wrote:Quit being an idiot. Hypotheticals are not reality, if you want, replace all instances of BM or Battle Mage with Jim Bob. The name doesn't matter.Battle Mage wrote:Really? Can you please post games to back this up? Because, personally, i cant recall 1 game we shared together.
5/6 given that DGB is town. But nobody WILL say that, because whether you claim to know the setup inside out, the fact is, your affiliation can't be proven. In fact, i'm leaning scum on you atm, simply because you seem to think you can make statements without backing them up, and people will simply follow your lead because you claim to be a really good player. 0.oCoron wrote:The point is, firstly, there's a what? 17/20 chance I'm town(well 16/19 from a protown player's perspective but still). Thems good odds. Plus, I don't expect you to trust me explicitly, and say "oh, Coron said it, it must be true". I want you to say "oh, Coron said it, that makes it more likely." There is a huge difference.Battle Mage wrote:I don't actually care. Whether you are a good player or not, is irrelevant. In case you hadn't noticed, this is a MAFIA game. The concept of Mafia is that there are a group called the 'Mafia', who you can't trust. They are baddies, and regardless of how good they are, their aim is to mislead you. You mustn't trust them.
And to think, people call ME arrogant!Coron wrote:Wow, you're being dense, read my above paragraph.Battle Mage wrote:That is the first thing anybody learns about Mafia. So why the hell do you think people will trust your opinions on grounds of intelligence, when you've given NO reason to suggest that you are protown? I actually feel insulted, not just for me, but on behalf of everyone else here you've just insulted. 0.o
If you were confirmed protown, maybe. But as you aren't, that isn't really an issue is it.Coron wrote:Are you saying that past experience with a player doesn't effect how you react to them? It should. If a player was right in the past it should increase your percieved chance of them being right in the future.Battle Mage wrote:ugh. Grow up...Coron wrote: Oh, and when I'm right this time, please remember it for next time. Thanks.
I'm pretty sure i've played with you befo....oh. That was ANOTHER game in which i was blown up pretty much immediately as town.forbiddanlight wrote:Soo, why are you considering blowing these 4 up? And I favor blowing up BM, but this might just be his play style.
1. Not contributing seems to be his 'thing' these days. I wouldnt consider it especially scummy here.DrippingGoofball wrote:Alrighty.
If I am going to 'splode a lurker, and there is nothing I would love more, I will pick which one. So I suggest that the lurkerscum start posting now. I may be unpredictable, but I will be predictably merciless.
Here are the 4 players I am considering blowing up at this time.
(1) Tarhalindur
(2) BM
(3) The guy Tarhalindur is bus'ing: forbiddenlight
(4) The guy BM is bus'ing: Coron
Which of these 4 should I pick, and why.
I might even count 'splodevotes, but my counting accuracy is notoriously bad.
I'd support a Max-kill. M4yhem..not so much. You seem to have neglected to mention that we will gain very little info ANYWAY due to the lack of a voting mechanism, and the fact the person deciding the lynch will be:armlx wrote:Near impossible D1.M4yh3m wrote: It's not random if you analyse all the other players carefully and decide they're probably not scum.
Definitely false. D1 lynches are only random when people dick around and don't scum hunt until deadline.Also, day one lynches are often quite random. I'd rather kill a lurker than an active player today.
DGB: Of those 4, I say Tar. Max or M4yh3m is probably better though.
Also, what info do we get from a D1 lurker lynch? None? And then D2, we have no info so..... back to step A of killing a lurker? Nice plan.....
its not ALL lurkers. just 1 or 2, to shake them up a bit.forbiddanlight wrote:
I'm pretty sure i've played with you befo....oh. That was ANOTHER game in which i was blown up pretty much immediately as town. Rolling Eyes
Talk about giving yourself a get out of jail free card...
Which game was that, Bad Idea? Well, honestly, all I know is you apparently are a bit of a crazy player yourself. Most people I'd automatically be voting them for suggesting a policy lynch like Lynch all Lurkers...buut I still dunno with you. I still feel out of those 4 options blowing you up might be interesting.
You have a room for each component of your residence? Is there a webcam in the Window Room? or maybe the...Webcam room?Coron wrote:not in my door roomBattle Mage wrote:Have you got a webcam? I REALLY wanna see this!But I might be able to video tape it with my camera then upload it.
Lol, point taken. But seriously. Wth are you smoking?Coron wrote:You got it on the first try! See?Battle Mage wrote:thats gotta be the worst example ever. 0.o
Hulked? You ripped it apart like the Hulk? That's my best guess, but i'm really clueless.
you aren't listening. My point which you just aren't getting is that when you post what you think, and it leaves alot to be desired, it not only makes you look scummy, but it WILL invoke questions like 'why do you think that?'. And btw, the insult was ironic. So chill-ax.Coron wrote:Let's see, it starts out with an insult, then go on to say things that I didn't say at all, you continue to make arguements against things I explicitly said I wasn't saying. It was a damn example, get over yourself, I was not saying I had any meta on you. I was saying assuming I thought this thing, I would post that I thought it, no question. I mean, most people would probably.Battle Mage wrote:That's the problem, Mr Idiot. Ya see, your scenario was that, you would give a meta regardless of whether it existed or not, because that was your opinion. My point is that, because you have no grounds to make this meta, your opinion is invalid. Which is why i'm criticising your 'opinions' so far.
Evidently. But could you be a bit more subtle about kissing her ass? 0.oCoron wrote:At this point the person I care most about convincing is DGB, as DGB is our current Queen.Battle Mage wrote:5/6 given that DGB is town. But nobody WILL say that, because whether you claim to know the setup inside out, the fact is, your affiliation can't be proven. In fact, i'm leaning scum on you atm, simply because you seem to think you can make statements without backing them up, and people will simply follow your lead because you claim to be a really good player. 0.o
Ouch. An insult that wasn't even funny. I'm very disappointed Coron.Coron wrote: So in her case is would be 16/19. Also, this paragraph you fail to understand probability. Let's say there is a 5/6 chance I'm town, and if I'm town there is a 9/10 chance I'm right(note: number pulled out of a hat, no not literally BM, don't be dumb). That's still a 15/20 chance that I'm right. Since BM doesn't understand hypotheticals he probably won't understand this either. It's sad.
No, that's not me. Either it's your imagination, or you just got a new playmate. And she's royalty.Coron wrote:Seriously. You're pulling my leg, right?Battle Mage wrote:If you were confirmed protown, maybe. But as you aren't, that isn't really an issue is it.
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Ooh, can i be the Mod!?M4yhem wrote:There's more than one lurker though (currently, anyway) so we'd still have information from which lurker is chosen and which aren't.
I guess I can sort of see your point though. A little.
I don't know; who's going to keep track of the votes? Not me, that's for sure.
I think just talking without voting is just as helpful really, as long as DGB bothers to read what we've got to say.
ME!armlx wrote:Sounds loose.There's more than one lurker though (currently, anyway) so we'd still have information from which lurker is chosen and which aren't.
Any volunteers?I don't know; who's going to keep track of the votes? Not me, that's for sure.