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Post Post #2251 (isolation #0) » Fri Dec 15, 2023 5:15 am

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I am also doctor. My previous slot healed Roden.


Strange huh?
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Post Post #2254 (isolation #1) » Fri Dec 15, 2023 5:20 am

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I double Dunn.
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Post Post #2255 (isolation #2) » Fri Dec 15, 2023 5:34 am

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It goes without saying i will not claim whom i protected last night but let's gooooo!
Give atleast one reasoning which makes sense instead of "Cuz i said so!"
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Post Post #2258 (isolation #3) » Fri Dec 15, 2023 5:52 am

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What cringe game.

I am not real doctor by the way.
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Post Post #2436 (isolation #4) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 10:38 am

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What the fuck you all talking about
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Post Post #2443 (isolation #5) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 10:41 am

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In post 2441, davesaz wrote:
In post 2436, Enchant wrote: What the fuck you all talking about
Big delay showing up, interesting...
You better don't.
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Post Post #2463 (isolation #6) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 11:05 am

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So you waited for me to say "let's go Enchant".

What point of waiting for me then, just to mock?
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Post Post #2465 (isolation #7) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 11:11 am

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Why i am VT in list
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Post Post #2467 (isolation #8) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 11:15 am

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... And of course predecessor had good reason to claim?
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Post Post #2469 (isolation #9) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 11:42 am

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In post 2468, davesaz wrote: Are you saying you have some other role?
No, but i am malding.
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Post Post #2476 (isolation #10) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 12:45 pm

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So you die if you protect mafia member? Meh.


Targets?
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Post Post #2481 (isolation #11) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 1:31 pm

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In post 2479, Random Nurse wrote:
In post 2476, Enchant wrote: So you die if you protect mafia member? Meh.


Targets?

Haven't used it yet because I didn't understand it.
Asking mod be like:
no
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Post Post #2520 (isolation #12) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 8:34 pm

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I disagree i told you that neighborizer suck, which is truth.

If you want to talk with me, do so in thread. Simple "hey i talked with enchant i think enchant is townie" is useless at best.
If you wanted to really get atleast some usefulness, you would target potential PR to act as shield for them. You know, information which WORTH IT sharing privately.
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Post Post #2522 (isolation #13) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 9:03 pm

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I looked on claims:
2 Innocents from Miller claims with Town Role Cop in game. And Broccoli scared everyone off from checking Millers (which would result in confirmation of being town and mafia being boxed).
2 Innocents from Friendly Neighboors. These most belivable if targets alive. I don't care to look who targets are.
Possible Innocents from "Bodyguard abomination". But let's be honest, using it to get guilties is unlikely option from this point on.

I believe bodyguard and both FN claims. I don't believe Millers.


Vote VOTE: Broccoli for now. For someone who tries to solve mech, they are surprisingly vindicative.
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Post Post #2525 (isolation #14) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 9:16 pm

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In post 2523, Random Nurse wrote: So regarding my role the general consensus is just "you target whoever you suspect the most"?
Do you even have your own opinion?

Protect those who you think are town but uncleared.

You are basically Weak Hider with advantage of protecting target and disadvantage of possibility of target being framed by your death. Mafia clearly won't attack anyone if they see you claiming to target them following night to make it even more confusing.
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Post Post #2526 (isolation #15) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 9:17 pm

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In post 2524, Random Nurse wrote:
In post 2522, Enchant wrote: I looked on claims:
2 Innocents from Miller claims with Town Role Cop in game. And Broccoli scared everyone off from checking Millers (which would result in confirmation of being town and mafia being boxed).
2 Innocents from Friendly Neighboors. These most belivable if targets alive. I don't care to look who targets are.
Possible Innocents from "Bodyguard abomination". But let's be honest, using it to get guilties is unlikely option from this point on.

I believe bodyguard and both FN claims. I don't believe Millers.


Vote VOTE: Broccoli for now. For someone who tries to solve mech, they are surprisingly vindicative.

*vindictive.
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Post Post #2528 (isolation #16) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 9:21 pm

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Roden were doomed slot by simple fact of 3 replacements and PR claim.
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Post Post #2529 (isolation #17) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 9:21 pm

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It's was so obvious i didn't vote to not look like i am bussing.
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Post Post #2532 (isolation #18) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 9:26 pm

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One of these Millers are mafia. So 50/50.

You are probably teammate. 100/0.
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Post Post #2533 (isolation #19) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 9:28 pm

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In post 2531, Random Nurse wrote:
In post 2525, Enchant wrote:
In post 2523, Random Nurse wrote: So regarding my role the general consensus is just "you target whoever you suspect the most"?
Do you even have your own opinion?

If you don't mind your manners you'll hear a new one soon.
I am not capable of telling lies, i say whatever i think.
Expect i feel like i want to lie, then hohohohohohohohohohoho
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Post Post #2537 (isolation #20) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 9:32 pm

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In post 2535, Broccoli Quest 2 wrote:
In post 2532, Enchant wrote: One of these Millers are mafia. So 50/50.

You are probably teammate. 100/0.
So you don't even bother reading the millers to see which one might be scum?

Also how does "probably teammate" work with "100/0"?
Do you have another person who harms town with "don't rolecop millers they obvtown promis will not change this opinion until lategame"?
It's only you.
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Post Post #2539 (isolation #21) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 9:36 pm

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In post 2538, Broccoli Quest 2 wrote:
In post 2522, Enchant wrote: 2 Innocents from Miller claims with Town Role Cop in game. And Broccoli scared everyone off from checking Millers (which would result in confirmation of being town and mafia being boxed).

I believe bodyguard and both FN claims. I don't believe Millers.

Vote VOTE: Broccoli for now. For someone who tries to solve mech, they are surprisingly vindicative.
Your claim that I might be trying to prevent an investigation of a miller teammate would have held more water if the rolecop wasn't night killed. There's no point scaring him off he dies at night anyway.

It's a pretty bullshit theory tbh
We had possible protective, considering Roden bothered to claim Doctor in last ditch effort, you wanted to know who it is.

Considering doctor did CC obvscum slot for no reason, i think your goal were achieved.
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Post Post #2542 (isolation #22) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 9:40 pm

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In post 2540, Broccoli Quest 2 wrote:
K I am done talking to Enchant, clearly this conversation isn't in good faith.
So long, thanks for atleast pretending you care
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Post Post #2544 (isolation #23) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 9:43 pm

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Is this because RN will never live that long because of claim?
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Post Post #2547 (isolation #24) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 10:57 pm

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In post 2546, Naerys wrote:
In post 2533, Enchant wrote:
In post 2531, Random Nurse wrote:
In post 2525, Enchant wrote:
In post 2523, Random Nurse wrote: So regarding my role the general consensus is just "you target whoever you suspect the most"?
Do you even have your own opinion?

If you don't mind your manners you'll hear a new one soon.
I am not capable of telling lies, i say whatever i think.
Expect i feel like i want to lie, then hohohohohohohohohohoho
Can Santa Enchant give us early christmas gift and flip scum?
And then you tell i am useless and complain when i replace in.
Bah.
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Post Post #2548 (isolation #25) » Tue Dec 19, 2023 2:10 am

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idk considering "Hey rolecop must check in *List of people which include Enchant" somehow turned in "ENCHANT OBVIOUSLY KILLED ROLECOP BECAUSE NOT VT" argument shows about how much damn i should give about game.
Sadly i can't just proddodge due obligation to give honest effort, so can in this game be atleast one reasonable person who makes reasonable argument to suspect me instead of trash poe theories which assumes that every PR tells truth.


Or just speedlim me and see if i care. Kinda option as well.
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Post Post #2551 (isolation #26) » Tue Dec 19, 2023 2:16 am

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You would't ask this question if you really read my posts.
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Post Post #2553 (isolation #27) » Tue Dec 19, 2023 2:24 am

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In post 2552, Broccoli Quest 2 wrote:
So you mean the millers are PRs?
Cursed.

But thinking about it i changed my mind probably.
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Post Post #2554 (isolation #28) » Tue Dec 19, 2023 2:27 am

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Need to eat, recover my mana for a bit.

Then i try to read again.
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Post Post #2555 (isolation #29) » Tue Dec 19, 2023 2:27 am

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(yes scumtell of finding excuses to not post)
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Post Post #2561 (isolation #30) » Tue Dec 19, 2023 3:32 am

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I am back.

Anyway i think plan of mod was like:
1. Haha i put two millers and they fight with claiming D1!!!
2. Haha i also put rolecop who can get innocents from them
3. I also give mafia alien which punishes claiming millers by protecting them from rolecop!!!

So maybe two millers is not that terrible that i predicted, but two friendly neighbours... Also make sense.

Need to understand that they most likely are real. There's little reason to chain self to buddy so they confirm you, if that's case it will be evident pretty fast. So FL claims are almost always town.
Targets... Not necessarily.


I find strange fact that mafia just killed rolecop with living doctor claim. Main point is Strange. Not suspicious. Maybe they didn't believe claim at first place (i had suspicions because insisting on not claiming target is bruh)

And MACHO BODYGUARD DISLOYAL VIG... Wait this is another innocent for rolecop. Didn't really notice it before.


Yeaaaah, it's overtaked in town favor, something not real, and i have no clue what exactly.
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Post Post #2562 (isolation #31) » Tue Dec 19, 2023 3:33 am

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Damn I don't want to solve mech. How far i am gone
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Post Post #2572 (isolation #32) » Tue Dec 19, 2023 3:50 am

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I agree with vegetable (broccoli are vegetable right?), even if RN for some reason mafia, it will be blatant.

Besides, it's not role RN can makeup. Maybe teammates but they wouldn't make some bigassroles which may confuse team and instead to offer something more simple.
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Post Post #2579 (isolation #33) » Tue Dec 19, 2023 4:00 am

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In post 2575, Hu Tao wrote: Why would naerys friendly neighbor the doctor claim after waiting days to do so.
Nonsense.

Claiming and chaining self with teammate-doctor claim is also nonsense.


All "fucking absurd" goes in probably town territory. Mafia atleast have some plan to live.
Probably.
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Post Post #2580 (isolation #34) » Tue Dec 19, 2023 4:01 am

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I don't think i have any authority to press on it after previous game.
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Post Post #2581 (isolation #35) » Tue Dec 19, 2023 4:03 am

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By the way, why no one reacted when i claimed doctor after my slot claimed VT?

Did i look like blatantly lying, and if so, why no one pointed it out.
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Post Post #2593 (isolation #36) » Tue Dec 19, 2023 5:36 am

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In post 2585, Broccoli Quest 2 wrote:
I thought you were obviously joking. You weren't?
I saw Guilo CCing Roden, so i claimed Doc as well for hell of it. Then retracted to look like doctor which really don't want to die. It didn't matter because my slot already claimed VT.

I mostly ISO slots i replaced in, but this time i decided that i won't.
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Post Post #2594 (isolation #37) » Tue Dec 19, 2023 5:37 am

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TldR: Yes it was joke.
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Post Post #2609 (isolation #38) » Tue Dec 19, 2023 7:21 am

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Now your being angry when i offered to trade roles in hood makes much sense really.
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Post Post #2610 (isolation #39) » Tue Dec 19, 2023 7:22 am

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In post 2608, Hu Tao wrote: Okay enchant is probably town then. I can confirm that when I was a neighbor in another game, enchant said nothing in the neighborhood when he was town too. So I believe him when he says he wouldn't talk.
That's untrue, i mocked genshin impact in that game
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Post Post #2616 (isolation #40) » Tue Dec 19, 2023 7:26 am

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Why there's even theory that mafia can't contain two goons.

That's fallacy i also followed in that multiball shit where all mafia was goons, and i build idiotic theories than teams must be 2PR 1G.
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Post Post #2617 (isolation #41) » Tue Dec 19, 2023 7:27 am

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In post 2614, Hu Tao wrote: Enchant is a secret genshin player. He knows so much about the game
Unforgivable
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Post Post #2620 (isolation #42) » Tue Dec 19, 2023 7:34 am

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Should i really fight theory which grants me town council sit?

Probably not. But i still find it silly.
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Post Post #2624 (isolation #43) » Tue Dec 19, 2023 7:38 am

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It was in reverse.

Alien died D2 from being voted.
Goon died N1.
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Post Post #2625 (isolation #44) » Tue Dec 19, 2023 7:43 am

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Damn if Andres messaged someone we would possible get insight on who alien targeted.


USE DAMN PRS EVEN IF THEY SUCK
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Post Post #2660 (isolation #45) » Tue Dec 19, 2023 3:47 pm

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In post 2646, Guillotina wrote:
In post 2561, Enchant wrote: I am back.

Anyway i think plan of mod was like:
1. Haha i put two millers and they fight with claiming D1!!!
2. Haha i also put rolecop who can get innocents from them
3. I also give mafia alien which punishes claiming millers by protecting them from rolecop!!!

So maybe two millers is not that terrible that i predicted, but two friendly neighbours... Also make sense.

Need to understand that they most likely are real. There's little reason to chain self to buddy so they confirm you, if that's case it will be evident pretty fast. So FL claims are almost always town.
Targets... Not necessarily.


I find strange fact that mafia just killed rolecop with living doctor claim. Main point is Strange. Not suspicious. Maybe they didn't believe claim at first place (i had suspicions because insisting on not claiming target is bruh)

And MACHO BODYGUARD DISLOYAL VIG... Wait this is another innocent for rolecop. Didn't really notice it before.


Yeaaaah, it's overtaked in town favor, something not real, and i have no clue what exactly.
Whst is so BRUH about not claiming your targets as doctor? Not claiming them makes it harder for scum to try to predict whom i cant protect the following night and they’d just hit me. It is obvious scum couldnt wait to kill the rolecop so much that they took the risk.
Because doctors have no reason to hide target commonly, unless they can't protect same target twice in a row.
You didn't claim modifier, you claimed it exist.
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Post Post #2663 (isolation #46) » Tue Dec 19, 2023 4:18 pm

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In post 2656, davesaz wrote: I think using the bodyguard makes more sense in case I find a liar. Maybe save the sacrifice vig attempt for when no investigative to protect.
Idk, assuming both town, mafia will have choice between letting to confirm Hu Tao as town (direct faction check) or letting you get VT/Not VT result (which may or may not be condemning).

If anything, RN has more valuable role than you, and probably dies to not give more confirms/frame RN target. So you can as well stop caring about dying for night, you still get result.

If RN wants to target Hu Tao, why not.

Of course, unless there's yet another mafia blocking role. Then you both are kinda boned, but atleast we will learn that.
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Post Post #2666 (isolation #47) » Tue Dec 19, 2023 5:50 pm

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Hu Tao doesn't want to be checked. Okay.

VOTE: Hu Tao
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Post Post #2668 (isolation #48) » Tue Dec 19, 2023 5:55 pm

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In post 2667, Hu Tao wrote: Do you not see how Dave is important to winning the game
Dave won't die anyway. Mafia can't kill two people at same night.

Difference being that Bodyguard confirms as Town/Not Town. And Dave confirms as VT/Not VT.
First is obviously more valuable, so Dave doesn't need protection.
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Post Post #2682 (isolation #49) » Tue Dec 19, 2023 6:40 pm

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In post 2678, Guillotina wrote:
In post 1425, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1420, Guillotina wrote: But I don't remember you doing AtE
I’m not AtEing, just stating the facts. Fuck off.
Oh this looks good for me too, plus I'm Roden's CC so...
Not really, mafia insult each other more willingly, especially for good cause.

It's mafia insulting town which is rare (and really bad sport)
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Post Post #2696 (isolation #50) » Tue Dec 19, 2023 9:06 pm

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@Mod Celebloki are not in Playerlist. Help.
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Post Post #2697 (isolation #51) » Tue Dec 19, 2023 9:07 pm

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Celebloki are also "Alive" in this phase.
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Post Post #2700 (isolation #52) » Tue Dec 19, 2023 10:26 pm

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Wtf how did you know????????7
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Post Post #2701 (isolation #53) » Tue Dec 19, 2023 10:26 pm

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But yes, i told RN to claim selfdisposing role while being under thread of erasure from thread.


Clearly makes sense.
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Post Post #2741 (isolation #54) » Wed Dec 20, 2023 4:36 pm

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VOTE: Timmer

Bwoink
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Post Post #2755 (isolation #55) » Thu Dec 21, 2023 1:29 am

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I am not convinced really.
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Post Post #2762 (isolation #56) » Thu Dec 21, 2023 2:01 am

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Idk i would vote out Guilotine instead.
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Post Post #2779 (isolation #57) » Thu Dec 21, 2023 4:17 am

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In post 2776, Hu Tao wrote: I'll be clear tomorrow.
What exactly part of "Mafia won't let bodyguard give clears and will kill them always" you unable to understand?
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Post Post #2844 (isolation #58) » Thu Dec 21, 2023 9:12 pm

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In post 2841, Random Nurse wrote: if I target Hu and don't die then I basically clear Hu as Town?
Yes.
Unless there's second mafia blocking role.
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Post Post #2886 (isolation #59) » Sun Dec 24, 2023 5:10 am

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Literally no one cares to elim in PRs because it makes small sense. So VT are in sort of dodgeball.

Only reason why i am not on stand is because of Kyouko dominating thread making everyone think that 2 goons are impossibility.


I just told truth. Where is my medal
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Post Post #2888 (isolation #60) » Sun Dec 24, 2023 5:15 am

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In post 2887, Broccoli Quest 2 wrote:
Enchant, what are your reads? Do you think there are two mafia among the VT claims?
Uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuunlikely.
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Post Post #2904 (isolation #61) » Sun Dec 24, 2023 9:34 pm

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In post 2899, Random Nurse wrote: We've got 8 days, people.

Why the rush?

:dead:
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Post Post #2975 (isolation #62) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 9:11 pm

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If anything kill makes sense.
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Post Post #2982 (isolation #63) » Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:10 am

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In post 2979, Naerys wrote:
In post 2975, Enchant wrote: If anything kill makes sense.
How so? I dont see much logic. I expected Nurse/dave to be NKed

Because we operate on not full knowledge, and mafia also knows it.


While we assume that RN are town (i still believe so), it's not confirmed, and Dave may or may not be useless or town or both of these really. It's less confirmed that FN claims, which had more strong conftown standing, due uh, being paired.

If anything, mafia can fearmonger us with second roleblockers even if RN and Dave town. We never confirm Hu Tao as town until mafia all dies or we flip second roleblocker somehow (which may not even exist). Hood fails if Dave roleblocked as well, giving false result. That's point.


Basically: I also expected RN to die, but kill is totally not outrageously nonsense, that's sounds pretty valid way of play for mafia. FN may be more dangerous for them.

Let's just assume Hu Tao town for time being.
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Post Post #2983 (isolation #64) » Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:14 am

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Why:

Hu Tao for sure not roleblocker due rolecop result.
If we flip other mafia, Hu Tao is confirmed innocent.
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Post Post #2985 (isolation #65) » Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:53 am

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Spiritually already.
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Post Post #3008 (isolation #66) » Fri Dec 29, 2023 11:39 am

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If Andres didn't send mail because forgot, i choke from laugh.
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Post Post #3036 (isolation #67) » Sat Dec 30, 2023 9:33 am

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I will be busy due partying (sort of). Not VLA i will be here, but kinda... Yeah.


My primal question to Guillotine is why bother to CC Roden, who was obviously evil, but not CC Hu Tao? It probably resolved somewhere, but it requires me to look answers up in all these pages.

With "oh i couldn't protect so sorry i already protected that rolecop N1" sounds not to convincing, and mafia (who lost roleblocker) having undeniable knowledge that they will successfully perform kill with alive doctor claim is like attempt to rush in guarded gate, while honking noses of guards. Successfully.

... Eh. Guilotine probably just mafia, who "CCed" Roden, i put it that.
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Post Post #3057 (isolation #68) » Sat Dec 30, 2023 11:41 am

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In post 3047, Guillotina wrote:
In post 3036, Enchant wrote: I will be busy due partying (sort of). Not VLA i will be here, but kinda... Yeah.


My primal question to Guillotine is why bother to CC Roden, who was obviously evil, but not CC Hu Tao? It probably resolved somewhere, but it requires me to look answers up in all these pages.
Cause I'm a mafia vet not a newbie, if Hu Tao was scum fake claiming doc, that is precisely what a scum near an elimination would try to do, to claim a protection role to make them out, kill them at night and leave town without protection.
Hence why I didn't and proceeded to promote their elimination until Gamma came along with their AtE.
And Roden were different because?
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Post Post #3060 (isolation #69) » Sat Dec 30, 2023 11:44 am

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What watcher
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Post Post #3061 (isolation #70) » Sat Dec 30, 2023 11:46 am

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It contradicts your previous point where you want to get protect.

You also assume that you yourself won't be targeted this time.
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Post Post #3064 (isolation #71) » Sat Dec 30, 2023 11:49 am

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Bah.
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Post Post #3078 (isolation #72) » Sat Dec 30, 2023 6:06 pm

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In post 3075, TimmerRC wrote: I gave up ages ago but am willing to try to come back, I'm just trying to decide if its even possible.

I think everyone who is permanently fixated on the idea of voting me out is shady, which doesn't help because its probably omgus and the only person making sense to me is Hu Tao because they are reading my posts plainly and not getting swayed by noise.
Who are real mafia?
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Post Post #3152 (isolation #73) » Sun Dec 31, 2023 9:52 pm

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In post 3139, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 3136, Dunnstral wrote: Guillotina performing a gambit by ccing their partner is not impossible, but I don't have a problem with Celebloki dying if we consider that both davesaz and Random Nurse being left alive likely indicates mafia have more blocking power
I think all scum are in enchant/RN/Guillotine/Naerys.

I can see it being Enchant and Guillotine

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Post Post #3153 (isolation #74) » Sun Dec 31, 2023 10:15 pm

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VOTE: Dave
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Post Post #3157 (isolation #75) » Mon Jan 01, 2024 12:14 am

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If we spread like that we never make decision and start "compromising".
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Post Post #3223 (isolation #76) » Wed Jan 03, 2024 9:00 am

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Just so i understand correctly.

You vote me due "botched" neighborizer claim or you just hate me overall?
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Post Post #3225 (isolation #77) » Wed Jan 03, 2024 9:10 am

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Hm......
This role is allowed in Simple Normal games.

A Neighborizer without any Neighbors at the start of the game is considered Normal on mafiascum.net. Any players added to a Neighborhood are added at the start of the next day, regardless of whether the Neighborizer lives or not, and their Role Name is not changed.
According to wiki, pure neighborizer starts without hood. But there's nothing exactly about if every player gets personal hood or everyone are added in same.


Wait mod. Why rush? I know truth.
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Post Post #3226 (isolation #78) » Wed Jan 03, 2024 9:11 am

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... No really if ya speedwagon me just to discover truth via flip, you only deserve tomato on face.
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Post Post #3228 (isolation #79) » Wed Jan 03, 2024 9:21 am

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And then what?
My elimination is not punishment for me, it's punishment for town. I mostly don't care (i want to win, but i have nothing on stake).
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Post Post #3232 (isolation #80) » Wed Jan 03, 2024 9:44 am

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In post 3229, Naerys wrote: You are not conf town tho. At best we know you are simple.
There's big difference between voting me due of some spite and thinking i am mafia.
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Post Post #3236 (isolation #81) » Wed Jan 03, 2024 10:05 am

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In post 3234, ssbm_Kyouko wrote: Although I also see this and, since all 3 of dave, BQ2, and enchant can't be scum, it does seem at least some kind of error has been made, unless this was later revised:
In post 0, implosion wrote: Role PMs will be standardized. Moderators will no longer provide their own role PMs; instead, they can grab the standard PM from the wiki. This is a work in progress, so for now, you'll still need to write PMs, though the wiki has sample PMs already for most roles.
Huh?

If that's case, mod error definitely happened.
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Post Post #3249 (isolation #82) » Thu Jan 04, 2024 7:07 am

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In post 3247, Dunnstral wrote: This is slow. Let's ignore the neighbor thing I guess. I still think mafia is likely between enchant and JacksonVirgo based on neither of those slots having been voting for Roden.
Who cares about "Who bussed doomed slot faster" thing, don't bother posting
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Post Post #3284 (isolation #83) » Fri Jan 05, 2024 2:03 am

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VOTE: Dunn

Unironically agree
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Post Post #3297 (isolation #84) » Fri Jan 05, 2024 5:18 am

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In post 3295, Broccoli Quest 2 wrote:
In post 3289, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 3270, Broccoli Quest 2 wrote: VOTE: JV

Pretty sure I was already voting, but just emphasizing my vote

If you are right that this flips town then I am pretty sure that Dunn is just coasting scum

But I don't think JV is town. They are feeling detached / low effort here, which I do not think is in line with their town game, but is in line with their scum game. Timmer wasn't really towny either. It's an obvscum slot and limming Guillo is just stupid.

I think JV's flips cracks the game open (since rn we can all agree it's pretty stagnant and also deadlocked), whereas Guillo flip adds nothing except getting Naerys nightkilled. Which is bad because we want scum to be forced to kill in PoE.
Stop trying to vote out town
How about you stop trying to vote out town?
Idk i kinda dropped reasonable approach with Hu Tao.


Everytime i see Hu Tao post something akin of guilo+enchant teams, i remind self that Hu Tao robbed rolecop check from millers and made life of town worse to provide "valuable" reads akin of these.

Try to do same.
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Post Post #3310 (isolation #85) » Fri Jan 05, 2024 9:46 am

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Not true, you sheep kyouko.

You can't be sheeped if you are sheep
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Post Post #3340 (isolation #86) » Sat Jan 06, 2024 4:16 am

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Probably should make list of people who i trust and who i do not, i keep forgetting my allies in this game
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Post Post #3341 (isolation #87) » Sat Jan 06, 2024 4:23 am

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Enchant - My best enemy, my worst friend


Random Nurse - Literally obvtown. Neutral. Solution: try to not anger
Naerys - Literally obvtown. My enemy probably. Solution: Hope ends up NKed
davesaz - Probably mafia. My enemy. Solution: Shitpush at some point
Hu Tao - Probably town. My enemy. Solution: Hope ends up NKed

Broccoli Quest 2 - Bah. Probably town? My ally. Solution: Ignore until elo.
Guillotina - Suspucious as fuck. My enemy. Solution: Vote ASAP
Dunnstral - Idk but dedicated enemy. Solution: Vote ASAP
ssbm_Kyouko - I don't really like. Probably enemy. Solution: Vote sometime.
JacksonVirgo - Idk but dedicated enemy. Solution: Vote ASAP.



Damn playing mafia on grudges is ez, should probably do it more often.
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Post Post #3367 (isolation #88) » Sat Jan 06, 2024 12:08 pm

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VOTE: Jackson

I still would prefer to remove Guilotine instead but, hey.
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Post Post #3383 (isolation #89) » Sat Jan 06, 2024 1:09 pm

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In post 3372, Random Nurse wrote: I'll target Guillotina. Or Dunnstral. Probably Guillotina.
Good for ya.
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Post Post #3385 (isolation #90) » Sat Jan 06, 2024 1:27 pm

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In post 3384, Random Nurse wrote:
In post 3383, Enchant wrote:
In post 3372, Random Nurse wrote: I'll target Guillotina. Or Dunnstral. Probably Guillotina.
Good for ya.

That's all you're gonna say?
Ya
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Post Post #3427 (isolation #91) » Thu Jan 11, 2024 8:49 am

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Hmmm. Something off.

Mafia could just not kill anyone and it would be vague.
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Post Post #3432 (isolation #92) » Thu Jan 11, 2024 8:52 am

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Our hood was abandoned fully, no new post from day i as hooded really
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Post Post #3436 (isolation #93) » Thu Jan 11, 2024 8:54 am

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In post 3434, Naerys wrote: i am kinda considering enchant as last scum tbh
Oh btw.

If we will have lim to spare, remove Naerys automatically.
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Post Post #3443 (isolation #94) » Thu Jan 11, 2024 8:57 am

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I am not joking, if you want to 1vs1 me, so be it.
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Post Post #3445 (isolation #95) » Thu Jan 11, 2024 9:00 am

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I repeat kill Naerys tomorrow, she chained self to mafia claiming DOCTOR.


Naerys and fresh replacement may be reason why mafia didn't bother to skip kill, they are both just didn't knew hell about it.
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Post Post #3447 (isolation #96) » Thu Jan 11, 2024 9:08 am

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Um. Yeah, i am sure?
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Post Post #3452 (isolation #97) » Thu Jan 11, 2024 9:11 am

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In post 3448, Naerys wrote:
In post 3445, Enchant wrote: Naerys and fresh replacement may be reason why mafia didn't bother to skip kill,
Why would scum wish to skip kill?
^
YOU SEE WHAT I MEAN?
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Post Post #3457 (isolation #98) » Thu Jan 11, 2024 9:14 am

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In post 3453, Naerys wrote: No? I dont understand?
I don't talk to you really, it's for audience.
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Post Post #3462 (isolation #99) » Thu Jan 11, 2024 9:17 am

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In post 3458, Naerys wrote:
In post 3457, Enchant wrote:
In post 3453, Naerys wrote: No? I dont understand?
I don't talk to you really, it's for audience.
Could you answer my question without those theatrics then, please?
Fine, as you said please, i give you my valuable insight.


RN can die only if target mafia.
Doublekill confirms that RN target mafia.
If mafia skip, there's no possible way to determine truth, because only RN dying doesn't directly incriminate anyone.


Get it?
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Post Post #3466 (isolation #100) » Thu Jan 11, 2024 9:19 am

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In post 3456, Hu Tao wrote: Last scum is likely not vanilla.

So enchant is prob town if he's confirmed vanilla.

I think Dunn and kyouko are town.

PoP is likely scum .

Broccoli by vibe is town but by play is sus.

Naerys is likely scum partner and should be the elim tomorrow assuming PoP is scum
Broccoli also confirmed as vanilla
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Post Post #3467 (isolation #101) » Thu Jan 11, 2024 9:20 am

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In post 3465, Naerys wrote:
In post 3461, Hu Tao wrote: but please have naerys as the Elim tomorrow assuming pop is scum
Please think about what you are saying. Scum tying themselves together like that, after losing 2 members rather quickly is unreal. I am just FN.
Town doesn't play like that as well
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Post Post #3470 (isolation #102) » Thu Jan 11, 2024 9:27 am

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VOTE: Prince

Just in case you still alive.
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Post Post #3471 (isolation #103) » Thu Jan 11, 2024 9:27 am

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Talk over i sleep
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Post Post #3476 (isolation #104) » Thu Jan 11, 2024 9:37 am

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In post 3474, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 3472, ssbm_Kyouko wrote: Hu Tao posting like she might die fwiw
I'm the only conf town no?
Good time to flaunt with this status Hu Tao.
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Post Post #3481 (isolation #105) » Thu Jan 11, 2024 9:48 am

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Yeah, with 3 vanillas checks you are not really confirmed.
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Post Post #3489 (isolation #106) » Thu Jan 11, 2024 9:58 am

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Naerys started building "Enchant+Guillotine", when i started asking questions and Guilo was suspected.

Yet did she really act on it? I forgot
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Post Post #3491 (isolation #107) » Thu Jan 11, 2024 10:01 am

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Huh yeah it was Dunn.
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Post Post #3493 (isolation #108) » Thu Jan 11, 2024 10:05 am

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Yet you 1vs1 me.
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Post Post #3499 (isolation #109) » Thu Jan 11, 2024 10:29 am

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They try to pocket me though
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Post Post #3500 (isolation #110) » Thu Jan 11, 2024 10:29 am

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I am supposed to sleep.
But i have insomnia. Again.
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Post Post #3517 (isolation #111) » Sat Jan 13, 2024 8:50 am

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...hmmm.

So mafia remember after all.
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Post Post #3518 (isolation #112) » Sat Jan 13, 2024 8:54 am

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Nothing to say. I will watch.
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Post Post #3527 (isolation #113) » Sat Jan 13, 2024 10:51 am

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I agree. Considering how concerning mafia with bussing, i think i should be conftown for not being on mafia wagons.
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Post Post #3529 (isolation #114) » Sat Jan 13, 2024 11:01 am

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There were brief moment where both gamma and guilo voted you unison, so perhaps?
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Post Post #3530 (isolation #115) » Sat Jan 13, 2024 11:03 am

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I don't really care who voted who.


I just know that usage of 1-shot FN on Doctor claim is outrageous.
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Post Post #3531 (isolation #116) » Sat Jan 13, 2024 11:04 am

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I really think you are better than this, so you are mafia. As town you simple don't make this blunder.
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Post Post #3534 (isolation #117) » Sat Jan 13, 2024 11:16 am

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If i am mafia i know in advance that Guilo will be guiltied by RN.

So i have time to prepare "oh so betrayed" post to bus effectively.
... Or considering i was already confirmed as vanilla, i frame Hu Tao by killing RN beforehand instead of leaving RN alive for no fucking reason and clearing Hu Tao. Killing... Who the hell was that second FN i forgot already, fine who cares, can wait.

Only thing you really can blame me for is not acting on my suspicions beforehand and hammering Jackson, but i was not only idiot who didn't, so.


If i am mafia, i dedicated in ruining my own chances of win for no benefit whatsover. Nosense.
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Post Post #3535 (isolation #118) » Sat Jan 13, 2024 11:27 am

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In post 3533, Naerys wrote:
In post 3531, Enchant wrote: As town you simple don't make this blunder.
outrageous is thinking that scum buddies would tie themselves so closely together
I considered it.

If you can fail as town like that, you can do same as mafia. It's both outrageous mistakes you can make.

But as mafia, you can try to pass as incompetent, without really making said blunder if you was real town in this position.


So it doesn't really clear you or anything.
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Post Post #3539 (isolation #119) » Sat Jan 13, 2024 6:16 pm

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...
If i knew about this post existance, i condemn Guilo on spot.
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Post Post #3541 (isolation #120) » Sat Jan 13, 2024 6:46 pm

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I rightly understand that you think mafia must be between Dunn-Kyoko?
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Post Post #3543 (isolation #121) » Sat Jan 13, 2024 7:30 pm

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Then i wonder why you bother at all with readlist.
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Post Post #3551 (isolation #122) » Sat Jan 13, 2024 8:51 pm

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In post 3546, ssbm_Kyouko wrote: Hu Tao actually dying is odd
You probably terrible paid attention at everything i said beforehand.

Hu Tao were confirmed as Vanilla, and with other mafia member flipping not-blocker, there's no way for Hu Tao to block RN and fake clear on self. And there's obviously no other mafia members.


She destined to die. Especially after "HEY LOOK I AM CONFTOWN flaunt after hammer.
... Yeah people need to learn to shut up.
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Post Post #3557 (isolation #123) » Sat Jan 13, 2024 9:27 pm

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I didn't look from perspective that Bodyguard+Vig could be healed huh.
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Post Post #3558 (isolation #124) » Sat Jan 13, 2024 9:28 pm

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In post 3553, ssbm_Kyouko wrote: This is mechanical error #2, and it's why Dunnstral, myself, and BQ2 are never scum here.
I don't understand this conclusion.
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Post Post #3560 (isolation #125) » Sat Jan 13, 2024 9:33 pm

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Okay.

Who mafia kill instead?

Dunn/Naerys? Laughable.
Me? Bruh.
You? Oh well, maybe? Unless you are mafia, then it always makes sense to attack Hu Tao then pull this argument up.


It doesn't work out.
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Post Post #3573 (isolation #126) » Sat Jan 13, 2024 10:37 pm

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In post 3566, Naerys wrote:
In post 3564, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 3561, Naerys wrote: Laughable is the fact that you believe that scum would tie thenselves together like that. Kyou please think.
Do you think i would bus important buddy pr like that? Do you think i wiuld bus Guillo knowing that attention would immediately turn on me?
Meanwhile there is a slot that was not on either scum wagons and isnt really cooperative either.
I take it this means you don't think Enchant is town?
Enchant slot wasnt on either scum wagon, also enchant wasnt very cooperative in the neighbourhoof dave put her in
You don't know that.
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Post Post #3574 (isolation #127) » Sat Jan 13, 2024 10:38 pm

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Naerys like desperately grabs on anything to condemn me, like bad tunnel.
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Post Post #3576 (isolation #128) » Sat Jan 13, 2024 10:56 pm

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Even if mod answer "Yes", will you still insist that mafia didn't had this knowledge and therefore you and whatever else conftown?

Because if you asking this question, you don't have this knowledge.
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Post Post #3584 (isolation #129) » Sun Jan 14, 2024 1:40 am

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In post 3583, Naerys wrote:
In post 3581, Broccoli Quest 2 wrote:
TOWN
Your humble broccoli overlord
Enchant
Kyo
Naerys
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SCUM
Putting slot that wasnt on either scum wagons as 2nd town? Okay
*Sigh*

Okay you forced it.
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Post Post #3587 (isolation #130) » Sun Jan 14, 2024 1:51 am

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Let's assume Naerys final mafia and:

In post 21, Naerys wrote: VOTE: Davesaz
Good morning!
Town.
In post 537, Naerys wrote:
In post 535, Broccoli Quest 2 wrote: I'm delighted to hear that you judge me by my color and species and NOT by my behavior. That's truly the best way to judge people.
Town.

Well, since it behaved quite nastily in my stomech i would say i judged it by behavior too.
Idk if juicy. I dont get much of solving vibe from Keyleth, so if she posted some RL it´d be nice. Same goes Kawaii.
Andresvmb lurks and i have habit of putting some pressure at lurkers.
VOTE: Andresvmb
Town.
In post 1220, Naerys wrote: VOTE: kyouko
Should be e-2 if i counted right
Town.
In post 1641, Naerys wrote:
In post 1630, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 1625, Naerys wrote:
In post 1605, Dunnstral wrote: I will point back to Kawaiikame's vote on Keyleth looking like a mafia vote.
Could you elaborate on this
I believe they are parroting some earlier sentiments on Keyleth but don't really believe what they wrote. It's not clear how they think Keyleth has good associations. Their vote timing looks like jumping on the wagon to end the day.
Thank you.
VOTE: Kawaii
So close to the deadline we need to compromise. I think this could be acceptable one.
Town.
In post 1721, Naerys wrote:
In post 1719, Broccoli Quest 2 wrote: Gamma was also unaligned with Black
You are stating obvious, Gamma flipped red and Black flipped green. Whats the point of saying stuff that everyone can see? Sus
VOTE: Broccoli
Town.
In post 1737, Naerys wrote:
In post 1733, Naerys wrote: Since i have seen town!Tao lie about being doctor, i suppose she could be town.
I dont see what scum!Broccoli would gain from defending town!Tao - more likely he would support the easy lim. Defending Hu Tao makes sense only in case of both town or both scum. Both being scum is something to think about.
Havent finished my thoughts here, lol. Sent it by mistake.
Anyway, while faking doctor is something Hu Tao did as town, i think we need to look at her behavior since beginning. First she claims vanilla, then when she gets pushed she claims doctor. At the very best she feels untrustworthy, at the worst these are scummy moves. She could be doing it bcz she knows there are players who have seen her faking doctor as town, so she counts on that those will TR her.
Conclusion: flipping Hu gives us decent info. It solves potential Hu+Broccoli+Gamma buddies.
VOTE: Hu Tao
Town. Even acknowlidges it's Town.
In post 1771, Naerys wrote:
In post 1768, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 1231, Celebloki wrote: Even though she wants me dead, I still don't think Kyouko's the play today.

This might seem completely out of left field, but I am just pondering scenario's.
In a game this size, and considering Hu Tao's claim of Complex Indecisive Doctor, is a second town protective role likely balance-wise or would that be too town sided?
I think i was hasty in believing Celebloki.
UNVOTE: Hu tao
Okay.
In post 1821, Naerys wrote:
In post 1820, Dunnstral wrote: Lastly I think Gob lied about their reason for replacing out being that they were in too many games. Point being they joined a new game right after replacing out of this one and have posted nearly a hundred times on the site since then.
VOTE: Dunnstral
Gobs reason is his own and this post is really bad.
Town.
In post 1878, Naerys wrote: Hu Tao vs Celebloki could contain a scum.
Hu Tao looks much worse, that slot is untrustworthy. Starting with her is less risky than limming potential useful town PR but also her flip gets plenty of useful info.
I wanted to go this way but allowed Broccoli and Hu to make me hesitate. :roll:
Out of the 3 i feel like Hu has the best chance of rolling scum.

VOTE: Hu Tao
Town.
In post 2023, Naerys wrote:
In post 2017, Hu Tao wrote: Says she's made a fool of herself but not unvoted :roll:
UNVOTE: Hu Tao
i was distracted by my dog, he didnt care that i wished to post something here, he needed his petting
Okay.
In post 2211, Naerys wrote: Well since there was a babysitter its possible there is another limited protective. Makes me lose interest in Roden lim
VOTE: Elements
In post 2252, Naerys wrote:
In post 2246, Broccoli Quest 2 wrote:
Naerys and Elements, I would greatly aporeciate if you stop sitting on your hands and doubting my every play, and instead help me vote scum.

Much love, Broccoli.
The day i dont doubt you at all is the day you should worry.
I like Guillo post much more than yours
VOTE: Roden
Mafia, after "CC" happened and it's bussed slot.
In post 2862, Naerys wrote: VOTE: elements

My dear scummies, i wish you merry Christmas!
Hope you enjoy the holiday <3
Town.
In post 3097, Naerys wrote: VOTE: Timmer
Town.
In post 3119, Naerys wrote: UNVOTE:
Okay.
In post 3265, Naerys wrote: VOTE: Guillotina
If i sent my fn notice to scum i will just jump off the rock
Nah kidding this would be the exact example of my luck
I kinda feel like i wish this day to end so if anyone wants to hammer
Mafia, after i started asking questions.
In post 3311, Naerys wrote: VOTE: JV
Town.
In post 3401, Naerys wrote: VOTE: Prince of Paterson
do try to keep up with the replacements, Broccoli
and yes lets vote this slot, kindly stop using me as your shield scum, thx
Mafia, after being guiltied.
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Post Post #3588 (isolation #131) » Sun Jan 14, 2024 1:52 am

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Now cease posting this nonsense.
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Post Post #3593 (isolation #132) » Sun Jan 14, 2024 2:02 am

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I didn't really express opinion on most i just showed that mostly your perfomance lacking, you only joined when both slots are doomed so your accusations are hypocritical.
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Post Post #3594 (isolation #133) » Sun Jan 14, 2024 2:03 am

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So shut it down.

If i read it yet again, i vote you and stop interacting until one of us is dead.
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Post Post #3597 (isolation #134) » Sun Jan 14, 2024 2:05 am

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You did it only after i asked questions to Guilo.

Last time: Shut it down, or i assume you annoy me on purpose.
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Post Post #3599 (isolation #135) » Sun Jan 14, 2024 2:07 am

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YOU REPEAT SAME INVALID ARGUMENT LIKE 10 TIMES YES WE GOT THIS I AM NOT ON WAGON KNOCK IT OFF
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Post Post #3625 (isolation #136) » Sun Jan 14, 2024 11:04 pm

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I don't care about meta.
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Post Post #3628 (isolation #137) » Mon Jan 15, 2024 5:07 am

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If you were sadistic mod, who put Rolecop, would you input two millers OR two Friendly Neighbours?

Or both?
If both then uuuh well erm... Wtf?
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Post Post #3633 (isolation #138) » Mon Jan 15, 2024 6:10 pm

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In post 3631, MariaR wrote: Sup
We are massclaiming, what your role?
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Post Post #3635 (isolation #139) » Mon Jan 15, 2024 6:15 pm

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VOTE: MariaR

You just lost vibe check.

If you confirmed role you already should known you are Miller therefore nothing to hide.
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Post Post #3637 (isolation #140) » Mon Jan 15, 2024 6:20 pm

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k
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Post Post #3639 (isolation #141) » Mon Jan 15, 2024 6:27 pm

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In post 3638, MariaR wrote: Are we in lylo? How much do I need to catch up?
Just 145 pages.
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Post Post #3642 (isolation #142) » Mon Jan 15, 2024 6:35 pm

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In post 3641, MariaR wrote:
In post 3639, Enchant wrote:
In post 3638, MariaR wrote: Are we in lylo? How much do I need to catch up?
Just 145 pages.
As much as I don't mind jokes I would like a semi serious answer :^) I'll prob iso the dead maf but is there any really hot day you rec?
pedit: Thank you!
Dunn claimed Miller D1.
Your slot CCed Miller.
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Me and Broccoli confirmed as Vanilla by Simple Neighborizer Dave.
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Post Post #3649 (isolation #143) » Tue Jan 16, 2024 12:53 pm

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In post 3648, Naerys wrote: VOTE: no lim
Anyone wants to follow this road?
I want to really know your reasoning, but as far i am concerned, it harms us.
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Post Post #3657 (isolation #144) » Thu Jan 18, 2024 1:51 am

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Do you want me to replace in this slot and play as both?
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Post Post #3658 (isolation #145) » Fri Jan 19, 2024 12:55 am

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This is sad.
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Post Post #3660 (isolation #146) » Fri Jan 19, 2024 2:50 am

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In post 3659, Naerys wrote: Tempted to vote that slot out to spare our mod troubles
Probably wouldn't be bad play.


I still thinking it's among Dunn/MariaR/You.

So it's probably 2/3 chance to win? Not bad.


4 potential clears is too much probably. I don't buy Kyoko point about doctor being fake clear for example: it's almost meta if you put town rolecop, you also give benign role to mafia.

That's why i voted Dave for example. Not only because hoods sucks... But they do suck.
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Post Post #3692 (isolation #147) » Mon Jan 22, 2024 10:04 am

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GG i was scum
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