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PranaDevil wrote:Some rules borrowed from various places (Activity section borrowed directly from Parama).
Game Rules:
Voting and Deadlines:
3 - You mustunvotebefore voting. Unvotes must also be in bold as shown."I value knowledge, logic, and deceit. I love to pursue wisdom but also to manipulate and deceive. At my best, I am brilliant and progressive. At my worst, I am treacherous and cold."-
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Because page 1 matters!
Also, if you really wanna make the argument, Aurorus was the second person on the rum wagon."I value knowledge, logic, and deceit. I love to pursue wisdom but also to manipulate and deceive. At my best, I am brilliant and progressive. At my worst, I am treacherous and cold."-
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And to clarify that, it'd be hard to organize everyone at once, and without that there's no way for anyone to tell what the flavor split is, as scum are just gonna follow the first couple claims' examples.
This is my first theme on this particular site, but do scum get a safelist? And is it common for there to be flavor attached or written by the host for that list? I know different sites have different opinions on this."I value knowledge, logic, and deceit. I love to pursue wisdom but also to manipulate and deceive. At my best, I am brilliant and progressive. At my worst, I am treacherous and cold."-
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I doubt names are going to tell us anything, and I'd rather leave host meta, name meta, and flavor meta waaaay out of this one."I value knowledge, logic, and deceit. I love to pursue wisdom but also to manipulate and deceive. At my best, I am brilliant and progressive. At my worst, I am treacherous and cold."-
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I have a PotC name fwiw. I'm catching up here and there so forgive me, but my activity level will resume as normal tomorrow afternoon"I value knowledge, logic, and deceit. I love to pursue wisdom but also to manipulate and deceive. At my best, I am brilliant and progressive. At my worst, I am treacherous and cold."-
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Sorry for the inactivity. I am reading, im just not able to post much. Normal (lots of) activity tomorrow morning. I play the most when at work during the week"I value knowledge, logic, and deceit. I love to pursue wisdom but also to manipulate and deceive. At my best, I am brilliant and progressive. At my worst, I am treacherous and cold."-
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I apologize for the low activity. I'm most active during weekdays, and weekends are a tossup depending on the Mrs.' schedule. I do have an iPhone, so I tend to skim the games I'm playing in, and try to post at least once a day just to remind people that I am alive and reading, but my biggest contributions will certainly come Monday mornings, and throughout the week until Friday-ish, wherein activity from me will die down again, because I tend to have busy weekends.
I'll have a lot more to say tomorrow morning, I need to sleep so I can get to work and play >.>!
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Ok, there was a lot to catch up on, both in this topic and at work. Just finished page 8, but I really don't know what to think tbh. CK was just front and center for so long going "LOOK AT MEEEEE" that I got tired of him tbh, flailing his arms around in caps and bolds and emotions. He seems over-zealous, and slow to concede a point (the MC idea was downright stupid for soooo many reasons presented already). Umbrage's play intrigues me. Nexus seems a bit lurky. I may need to read the last couple pages closer. More to come."I value knowledge, logic, and deceit. I love to pursue wisdom but also to manipulate and deceive. At my best, I am brilliant and progressive. At my worst, I am treacherous and cold."-
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Why are youchesskid3 wrote:I will bet you money scum don't have fakeclaims
based on reactions to my suggestion
yeah i figured it was gonna get rejected
but not this hardstillgoing on about this?
UNVOTE: The Rum ; ;
VOTE: ChessKid
Do some scum hunting, I don't care if this were to even turn into a PL against you."I value knowledge, logic, and deceit. I love to pursue wisdom but also to manipulate and deceive. At my best, I am brilliant and progressive. At my worst, I am treacherous and cold."-
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Ugh, this whole mess with ChessKid throughout the entire topic is unenjoyable. It didn't even do a good job of bringing anyone else out, and is a whole big pile of suckfest. I keep trying to read his posts and find my eyes glazing over. Anyway, sorry for the inactivity, but it was a real chore reading CK and Umbrage go 'round. My activity resumes thusly, I honestly figured there'd be more to say but... there ain't."I value knowledge, logic, and deceit. I love to pursue wisdom but also to manipulate and deceive. At my best, I am brilliant and progressive. At my worst, I am treacherous and cold."-
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Sure, the second half of your post. The first, I guess you'd call that a sentence, or fail haiku, was just more whining.chesskid3 wrote:Direct response to something you said, jackass."I value knowledge, logic, and deceit. I love to pursue wisdom but also to manipulate and deceive. At my best, I am brilliant and progressive. At my worst, I am treacherous and cold."-
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I'll do it for him; lol OMGUS and trying to throw suspicion on me for not being around on the *gasp* weekend. I'm sorry I had to wade through so much of your junk to come to my conclusion that you're useless, if not scum."I value knowledge, logic, and deceit. I love to pursue wisdom but also to manipulate and deceive. At my best, I am brilliant and progressive. At my worst, I am treacherous and cold."-
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Yes. I like to make sure it's known that, while I have a life, I do tend to skim on my phone, and I don't want to be replaced out. I like how you left out the time stamps."I value knowledge, logic, and deceit. I love to pursue wisdom but also to manipulate and deceive. At my best, I am brilliant and progressive. At my worst, I am treacherous and cold."-
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Because once (twice on sunday, gasp!) a day is artificially inflating my presence. It's so people don't go "hey, why does Shadow keep disappearing?" It's a courtesy, get over it. Certainly not a scum tell."I value knowledge, logic, and deceit. I love to pursue wisdom but also to manipulate and deceive. At my best, I am brilliant and progressive. At my worst, I am treacherous and cold."-
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And if anything, you're artifically creating more discussion than anyone in this thread. lolmassclaimday1, then arguing about it for 9 pages.chesskid3 wrote:It's artificially inflating your presence in the thread.
You aren't saying anything, so just say V/LA on weekends and don't post then.
Don't post a whole bunch of times about how you don't have time to say anything."I value knowledge, logic, and deceit. I love to pursue wisdom but also to manipulate and deceive. At my best, I am brilliant and progressive. At my worst, I am treacherous and cold."-
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Nexus is fishy and lurky (I said this), Umbrage is about as flaily as you, but a little more composed (though I think I mentioned fingering Umbrage). I like AV and IS, and beyond that there were smatterings of comments from other people that were completely overpowered by the stench of your scum."I value knowledge, logic, and deceit. I love to pursue wisdom but also to manipulate and deceive. At my best, I am brilliant and progressive. At my worst, I am treacherous and cold."-
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Maybe you just have a real problem with comprehension, and a PListhe way to go. I'll let you go back and find your answer to that."I value knowledge, logic, and deceit. I love to pursue wisdom but also to manipulate and deceive. At my best, I am brilliant and progressive. At my worst, I am treacherous and cold."-
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CHEESKID! ARE YOU HAVING A GOOD TIME? MAFIA IS FUN. FUUUUUUUUUN!
Seriously. If you're going to keep shoving implications into what people say, other people will probably start to vote me with you. And so there's no more confusion, let's do this dance;
In answer to your first question - I never expressly said I feel Umbrage is scum. His play is interesting, and I go on to ellaborate (as I still trudge through your muddy fields of post-despare) that I'm leaning slight scum over null. You should learn to read context, sir.
Second question - Distancing, buddying, there's no real sure scum tell, and meta is terrible (hey, remember how I said that about the point you continued to drag around in the mud for 8 pages? yeah, that one). I don't care if you and Umbrage act like the freaking Hardy boys reincarnate, that doesn't clear either of you from all suspicion if the other flips scum. You'd have to be dense to follow that logic. My vote stands."I value knowledge, logic, and deceit. I love to pursue wisdom but also to manipulate and deceive. At my best, I am brilliant and progressive. At my worst, I am treacherous and cold."-
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And to clarify, placing your vote based on night actions and the flip as opposed to interactions based on who flipped (especially when you've nailed scum) is stupid."I value knowledge, logic, and deceit. I love to pursue wisdom but also to manipulate and deceive. At my best, I am brilliant and progressive. At my worst, I am treacherous and cold."-
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Use your words CK! Instead of implying a doctor save, say "disregarding all night actions" or something to the effect."I value knowledge, logic, and deceit. I love to pursue wisdom but also to manipulate and deceive. At my best, I am brilliant and progressive. At my worst, I am treacherous and cold."-
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What is, WIFOMmobile Alec?
Seriously, there's not enough content in the game to judge right now what will happen if/when you flip potentially weeks from now. I'm not an advocate of the speed lynch, and hell, you've replied enough for me to know I've gotten all I'm going to get out of you, just off of my vote, so yeah. Now, if you'll excuse me, there are other players in the game."I value knowledge, logic, and deceit. I love to pursue wisdom but also to manipulate and deceive. At my best, I am brilliant and progressive. At my worst, I am treacherous and cold."-
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AV - to be fair, I wouldn't have thought of that logic. Mine was based on the fact that all of CK's interactions thusfar are "Rawrawrawr listen to me, these are my tortillas!", and that by the time he does flip (assuming he is ld1) there will potentailly (hopefully) be enough to actually answer that question, but as of now, especially given my assertions and vote, I don't nearly have enough information to answer his question sufficiently. Suffice it to say, even if I've pegged him dead on, finding his buddy would probably be a task independant of judging peoples' actions with CK."I value knowledge, logic, and deceit. I love to pursue wisdom but also to manipulate and deceive. At my best, I am brilliant and progressive. At my worst, I am treacherous and cold."-
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Hi, IS. We haven't met yet, yar. Is there anything in particularrrr ye find scummy about me, besides the weekend inactivity? I don't like the VI stance as a whole, because it often is anti-town, which is either directly against your win condition as town, or you're actually scum.Internet Stranger wrote:Yea, yea, the weekend excuse. I start calling out Shadow, so... he goes after Chess? Why?
Chess is an idiot. Chess is of questionable mental capacity. Does that make Chess scum? Not yet.
That vote by Margaret is TERRIBLE. Is it scummy? Not yet.
I still like my Shadow vote. Im calling him out on scummytude. Im all for a pressure wagon on him."I value knowledge, logic, and deceit. I love to pursue wisdom but also to manipulate and deceive. At my best, I am brilliant and progressive. At my worst, I am treacherous and cold."-
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Defense? I have nothing to defend really. You put a vote on me, but I don't have one foot on the gallows, or even the stirrup of the horse that would lead me to the gallows. I attacked KC for hyperactivity and terrible play. If he genuinely could not understand the logic or implications of my post thereafter (in regards to Umbrage, and other things that could easily be gleemed from my words), then we have a different matter, but if you're going out of your way to pursue playing a game like mafia, I should be able to expect at least some competancy.Internet Stranger wrote:blah blah, whatever Shadow. The fact remains that Chess just has an IQ of a peanut; He is not necessarily scum. You and Margaret are clearly taking advantage of him and trapping him with bullshit. Yes, he asked a retarded question because you were being deliberately obtuse with him.
Youre doing one of those defenses where you just go after the weakest person in order to kill him off and save your hide. Which works great in a kung fu movie, but its too easy to see in this format.
I realize that this game is in TurboPost mode, so its easy to hide for a while then pop up when its convenient. I assume that means that Bunny and Cain will suddenly pop up soon to jump on Chess as well."I value knowledge, logic, and deceit. I love to pursue wisdom but also to manipulate and deceive. At my best, I am brilliant and progressive. At my worst, I am treacherous and cold."-
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Liar said that IS. Though I certainly did mention policy lynch in my first discussion with Chess. I hate VIs, there's a reason newb games exist. That may be an ellitist or asshole thing to say, but, well... I'm kind of an ass, and very sarcastic. Like I said, I expect at least a certain level of comprehension in the game if you're going to pursue playing it, and you have in fact been playing awhile (as CK just mentioned he has been)."I value knowledge, logic, and deceit. I love to pursue wisdom but also to manipulate and deceive. At my best, I am brilliant and progressive. At my worst, I am treacherous and cold."-
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I'm not lurking, I'm just having trouble finding much to say. I kept throwing "WIFOM" at CK's questions because they (in particular) were terrible, and as someone else pointed out right away, inconsequential and unhelpful (because of WIFOM). I was just tired of playing the back and forth with him because he seems to have enough trouble already after having read the back and forth with him and Umbrage.bristep123 wrote:@Internet Stranger I just looked through Shadow's posts, can you point out the ad hominem remarks made towards you because I can't see them. He is throwing WIFOM around and not backing it up by explaining it, but again with other points I've made it doesn't make it less valid. I do however think that WIFOM is a bad tact to take, because everything can be bottled down to WIFOM if you really want to. I think Shadow is one to watch and perhaps needs some questioning He hasn't made any real in depth contributions yet, so yes he could just be lurking in the middle of the pack. With that said, I think that there are other more valid lynches to pursue at this point.
Having said that though, I reply when someone says something to/about me, and I post my own thoughts where I think they're warrented on a situation. Between CK, IS and a replace, I'm just waiting for this game to really begin, especially if IS is also going to be replaced for whatever offense he gave. If you'd like to question me about anything, I'll certainly answer though. I feel like with 5 days in (weekend aside, it's now Tuesday) we should have had more content from a couple other people. Lemme figure out who they are xD"I value knowledge, logic, and deceit. I love to pursue wisdom but also to manipulate and deceive. At my best, I am brilliant and progressive. At my worst, I am treacherous and cold."-
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Joan posted once saturday and never returned. Was Joan already replaced and I missed it >.>?
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Mine started as a policy vote, but I think he's deliberately playing dumb. That whole mass claim idea debacle was also pretty scummy. It could probably still be classified as a policy vote, I'm just looking for something else scummy to happen, I don't expect a speed policy lynch."I value knowledge, logic, and deceit. I love to pursue wisdom but also to manipulate and deceive. At my best, I am brilliant and progressive. At my worst, I am treacherous and cold."-
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You realize scum can hide behind town tells, and that it's actually scummy to say "Hey, only town does this, I'm doing it, I must be town!""I value knowledge, logic, and deceit. I love to pursue wisdom but also to manipulate and deceive. At my best, I am brilliant and progressive. At my worst, I am treacherous and cold."-
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Because of the way I've already explained v. CK. I'm throwing terms around at him because he doesn't seem to understand basic concepts, and is using terrible defenses to justify his VI play.Jedo the Jedi wrote:
Why? I've been watching you throw things around, and I'm not buying it. I think IS has you pegged. If it turns out you are the lynch choice today, I will gladly help out. For now though, I'm quite satisfied with my Umbrage vote.Shadow1psc wrote:Using meta as defense is scummy."I value knowledge, logic, and deceit. I love to pursue wisdom but also to manipulate and deceive. At my best, I am brilliant and progressive. At my worst, I am treacherous and cold."-
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chesskid3 wrote:I think I've been lynched day 1 3-4 times total.
2 of them were while I had no internet access.
I don't get lynched D1.
Alright, scum seems to be trying to paint me red for being lazy (admittedly I have been, CK destroyed my will to want to be interested in this game, this morning I found it fun again). Look at these. Ignoring the idiocy, basic context alone proves that CK has played his fair share of games (implying that being lynched d1 3-4 times total isn't much, etc), and that, in fact, he doesn't get lynched much at all. CK is not new, he's playing the VI card, and I don't think you can play that many games and still be that dense. Further more, I could even see IS being scum trying to paint me red for accusing the 'easy target' (his scum buddy). His lack of real content vs. me is becoming more alarming, as he just pops in to say "hey, lynch shadow, kthx". CK quote wall after lunch.chesskid3 wrote:Actually I think I've only been lynched like two times outside of D1 as well. :/
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Your logic is infallable, you haveInternet Stranger wrote:I still say we lynch Shadow.meconvinced to vote Shadow!"I value knowledge, logic, and deceit. I love to pursue wisdom but also to manipulate and deceive. At my best, I am brilliant and progressive. At my worst, I am treacherous and cold."-
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Thanks for posting something bettarrrrrr.
3b) Policy lynching isonlypertinent early game. If you're stuck with the VI late game, you arescrewed.
4) your initial reasoning was shit, and you still don't have much going for you other than because I'm attacking the VI (who has scummy actions in addition to playing stupid). The only other scumspect being Umbrage, who you think looks town, so if I were to attack him too, you'd still be calling for my head.
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There's nothing much to say about that other than to reiterate that my weekends will be content light and sparse. I try to follow along on my iPhone, and I'll post in response to random things as I see them, not necessarily as they come up, or in a timely matter even (in reference to talking about PotC flavor)."I value knowledge, logic, and deceit. I love to pursue wisdom but also to manipulate and deceive. At my best, I am brilliant and progressive. At my worst, I am treacherous and cold."-
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I guess I'll concede that Jedo. Admittedly I'm tunneling. I'll do some re-reading. FWIW, I don't like Umbrage or IS either.Jedo the Jedi wrote:
He's been on scum for less than six months. His volume of posts is inflated because he posts so many times a day with all kinds of meaningless stuff. He got lynched on day 1 multiple times, so that makes him available for more games (meaning this stat is also inflated). He is clearly still pretty new, and definitely a slow learner at that. He can play that many games and still be that dense. Be surprised if you want, but it happens.Shadow1psc wrote:Ignoring the idiocy, basic context alone proves that CK has played his fair share of games (implying that being lynched d1 3-4 times total isn't much, etc), and that, in fact, he doesn't get lynched much at all. CK is not new, he's playing the VI card, and I don't think you can play that many games and still be that dense.
Not a good defense for yourself. I still see picking on the n00b by throwing around pitiful attacks.
Pre-post-edit: Didn't agree with sure, but I had no idea at the time he would snowball it into an 8-page discussion, so I figured anything to help put to rest how unhelpful it'd be, especially if we were confined to a theme that narrow."I value knowledge, logic, and deceit. I love to pursue wisdom but also to manipulate and deceive. At my best, I am brilliant and progressive. At my worst, I am treacherous and cold."-
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Was that directed at me? I'm not sure what you're asking.Liar wrote:
OOC: Just a question, what's up with the emphasis on tells. Do they actually work?Shadow1psc wrote:You realize scum can hide behind town tells, and that it's actually scummy to say "Hey, only town does this, I'm doing it, I must be town!""I value knowledge, logic, and deceit. I love to pursue wisdom but also to manipulate and deceive. At my best, I am brilliant and progressive. At my worst, I am treacherous and cold."-
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I'm of the belief that 'tells' follow along the lines of metagaming, and I'd much rather analyse the actions of someone in context to the game their currently playing, and the questions asked/answered therein. I don't care if someoneelseacts a certain way and they were town, or were scum, or even if you have a playstyle, because it's just as easy to consciously act in that mannerknowingthat other people expect that behavior from a certain allignment. It's even more suspect to call it on yourself imo, because then you're just shouting "I'm a saint!" at everyone else."I value knowledge, logic, and deceit. I love to pursue wisdom but also to manipulate and deceive. At my best, I am brilliant and progressive. At my worst, I am treacherous and cold."-
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AV - I admitted I fell into tunneling, and I've dug my own hole for sure. I need to re-evaluate my stance in this game."I value knowledge, logic, and deceit. I love to pursue wisdom but also to manipulate and deceive. At my best, I am brilliant and progressive. At my worst, I am treacherous and cold."-
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Quick argument before I switch gears though; Why would Scum want to bring down VI, who either bring themselves down at somepoint, or are a manipulative assett in LYLO?"I value knowledge, logic, and deceit. I love to pursue wisdom but also to manipulate and deceive. At my best, I am brilliant and progressive. At my worst, I am treacherous and cold."-
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Ok, so I'm doing a complete re-read through. I wasn't the only one to vote CK, and I wasn't even the first to propose a PL on him (that goes to Nero, who wasn't been around at all). #67, CK calls Liar stupid, I just have to laugh at that. So far Nero and Umbrage are Hook of Suspicioning/voting CK for all the same reasons Inhave pointed out, but w/e, VI and all.
Post #134 does two things for me. Umbrage takes what is clearly stated by Jedo (and should have been simply quoted at me, I think I understand why I look so bad now :/) and tries to make substance of it. Jedo is completely logical here, and it looks like Umbrage is just holding random things.
UNVOTE: ChessKid
VOTE: Umbrage
Umbrage goes on to contradict himself in #137. His crappy replying within quotes was overlooked in my skimming, but his basic argument is that he supported the MC based on the two people who opposed it. But Umbrage had built a case on CK, why would he defend the idea which had long been established as anti town, while voting the person who proposed it?
CK makes a shockingly valid point @ Umbrage OMGUS. Umbrage goes on to say he had good reasoning, that was never explained until CK of all people pointed out how bad it was, and what the good points would have been. Quick point of defense, nearly everyone in the game has HoS'd CK at this point, and I've been called out for being the one to pressure him? Yeah...
Liar in #176 puts up some great contradictions in AVs Umbrage crusade. Didn't AV just drop Umbrage to jump on me...? We then have two amazing posts in 177 and 178 "CK played just like this and was scum", then "CK played nothing like this and was town". This isn't rocket science people, Jesus Christ. Bunny goes on to counter-point, saying CK is par for the course in #190.
Note: Jedo gives almost my exact reasoning for low content on weekends. Anyone pointing at me for that, is ass. AV tends to backpedal a lot and is trying to leave himself open for retractions and target switching, and concedes point. Not pointing this out as scummy, but I DO think at that stage of the topic Umbrage hadn't fully redeemed himself, and CK wasn't AS bad as I thought. Umbrage continues to look bad, looking his gift horse of one less accuser in the mouth, after AV has explained his reasoning. It sounds like he's trying to capitalize on defeat and run someone else down. Again, I don't find AVs concession scummy.
We need to see a lot more from Nero, who has rode on merely a few comments, all aimed at CK, just in less volume than my own. IS is also surprisingly silent for this long stretch of pages. Smargret gives an amazing post in #224. Definite town read from her so far this game. IS immediately comes back in once everyone notices this too. It's been an entire weekend at this point. Umbrage has a real problem explaining his votes as he makes them, and waffles back on to CK.
Either way, here's what I was waiting for, and I'm going to make another post for this, as I'm now re-caught up, IS is either stupid or scum."I value knowledge, logic, and deceit. I love to pursue wisdom but also to manipulate and deceive. At my best, I am brilliant and progressive. At my worst, I am treacherous and cold."-
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