so we should lynch you amirite?Papa Zito wrote:Hi Ash. No mislynchings plz.
hi zito, been a long time since we played together.
that's about 84 more posts to go, this site couldn't handle that kind of posting.subgenius wrote:Lets get this over 5 pages before the game even starts. That'd be pretty .
yes this, makes it impossible to find the scummy posts, luckily I have a horrible memoryPapa Zito wrote:And there's no iso.RobCapone wrote:Finally I play a game with Zito, he can confirm the site I normally play is like 10 times the pace of this place, day 1 typically lasts 20 to 40 pages and if you go away for a day, you spend forever trying to catch back up.
Or even a preview button.
oh and there is no such thing as a RVS, the entire game is RVSRobCapone wrote:yes this, makes it impossible to find the scummy posts, luckily I have a horrible memoryPapa Zito wrote:And there's no iso.RobCapone wrote:Finally I play a game with Zito, he can confirm the site I normally play is like 10 times the pace of this place, day 1 typically lasts 20 to 40 pages and if you go away for a day, you spend forever trying to catch back up.
Or even a preview button.
yeah but over there it is the same 15 to 20 guys playing each game so it's like a fraternity, and you know how you do with your boys, you call them gay and make jokes about their momma and what not.Ashblade wrote:I believe the trick is to keep it civil and try not to make people feel like shit. I've insulted people too because of this game, and it's going to happen from time to time if you have any sort of temper.GreyICE wrote:25.Hayker wrote:The trick is to swear at no one in particular. Post 60 ftw! So what is the post count per page here again? 20?
And I've... failed at that one too.
i'm down for a voteAshblade wrote:I can agree with that. RVS is over before it even started.GreyICE wrote:I will give everyone a door prize if we put him at L-2 before page 6.Erratus Apathos wrote:I didn't vote. I like waiting and I love making others wait.
He isn't at L-1, he only has like 3 votes, maybe 4Barry Allen wrote:Somehow I didn't think we could get to L-1 so quickly....XD
Errant - if you weren't at L-1 already I'd vote for you myself. You posted a rather unfortunate message about wanting to delay the game, then post an OMGUS vote and THEN say you had a case? Wow........
thanks, this made it a lot easierBill McQuill wrote:Wow, that's... quite an appeal to emotion you got there. You're not even under pressure there, chief. Maybe you ought to be.
Unvote, Vote: wikkiden.
wikkiden wrote:o; Well this is my first game, technically. :3 I'm placed in a noobie game. But izzz too slow for meeeee. I play on epicmafia all the time though. My scumdar is top quality. >:]
wikkiden wrote:I can't believe none of you remember me. V.V I guess I'm just the easy to forget type. *Sigh* /tear.
hey there mr. lurker, why don't you make a case for the person you are voting for because the reason you gave doesn't qualify as a good reason for me.Hiraki wrote:RobCapone can die too.
Can I get a good case on subgenius? His play doesn't qualify as a good reason for me.
not really isn't really a valid response, your reason is nonsense and if you are going to ask people to make cases, you shoudl be willing to do the same. so make a case on the person you are voting forHiraki wrote:Not really. But nice defense. Noted when Bill flips scum.RobCapone wrote:that is essentially what hiraki has done, I don't care if he votes you but he asks for reasons why people are voting you, when his reason for his vote is essentially nonsense.
no it isn't getting but-hurt, I may not attack the person who is accusing me of being scum, but I am damn sure am not going to defend them. your defending subs makes no sense and you haven't provided reasons for why he is not scum. and again you have not provided anything valid for your vote. My reasoning may not make sense to you, but I don't have to convince you of my reason for my vote.Yeah that's not really smart. That's just getting butt-hurt really.RobCapone wrote:if someone calls me scum, I don't defend that person's wagon
I didn't say this randomly, he brought it up like it actually means something. the fact that we have a long deadline means nothing and doesn't mean that if we suspect someone of scum, we should wait out the entire 2 weeks before lynching himWhat's your point? You said this randomly and actually it's gotten me annoyed.RobCapone wrote:it seems like you are trying to stall the inevitable and hope something happens to get the attention off of you, the deadline means nothing in the grand scheme of things if people are convinced you are scum.
um yes he said he supports a Sub wagon and now there is one, he wants to move focus off of it. that is scummy play, added that Zito hasn't really provided anything of value and hasn't scum hunted is yet another reason I pointed it out.He's not really avoiding it though.RobCapone wrote:but you supported his wagon and now it is at L-2 you seem to be avoiding it, idk just doesn't make sense to me.
Yeah so RobCapone or Bill. Take your pick please.
I don't know how many game he has played on the old mafiascum site and you really can't check. plus I didn't think I had to check his game log when I saw he was here since 2008.Just to say, if anyone was wondering, here was my initial reasoning for wanting Rob as dead as Bill.
But um.RobCapone wrote:Subs, play more, read wiki less
those scum tells became invalid the moment they were posted
unvote, vote subs
I have been trying to tell if subs was just newbish cause he sounds alot like how I played when I first joined, but seeing he has been here since 2008(regardless if he "hasn't played in a while") he should not be playing like this if he is town, so I have to assume he probably isn't and just trying to play it off that isn't working.
You could press that name(subgenius). And you'd be able to go to his profile.
And search his posts.
And find that he's played barely any games.
Also, "he should not be playing like this if he is town"
What the hell is that supposed to mean? Are town people supposed to act like all town people? You're making no sense, assuming with no information, and you're voting him because scumtells from the Wiki apparently are invalid the moment that he posted in here. Does something not make sense here, or is it everything?
For copying Bill's FoS, even after Barry explained his mistake and put his vote where his mouth is. Trying to appear townie by mirroring others is a definite scum tell.
Casting the vote to bring someone to L-1 less than a page into D1 would not be a good move for blending in. FoS is subtler and less likely to attract attention.
Before I get called out on this misreading,I'll go ahead and admit that Hiraki's reasoning makes more sense than I originally thought,
Cool, then let the record show that I wish to have my earlier apology stricken from the record. I am now back to my original level of finger pointing at Hiraki.
As far as I know, the only people that know whether or not this is true are Erratus and scum...
I knew people were going to pile on you for your pre-game post, and I think you deserved the scrutiny, but I felt no need to hop aboard your band wagon when it almost certainly wasn't going to amount to anything and others were going to say what needed to be said anyway.
this one in particular because he has said that in his mind declaring someone as town is scummy and a scumtell, so if he truly thought that, that is far worse than anything hiraki had done and should have been reason enough to take his vote off of him.I standby my comment. Acting like you know someone is town is scummy, especially since a hypothetical cop wouldn't have had an investigation yet. If my vote wasn't already on Hiraki, I'd be perfectly willing to vote for Papa Zito.
again if he thought Ash was serious he said he might lynch him, by his reaction, he thinks Zito was serious, yet no vote for him. If he is willing to lynch somebody who seriously makes that comment, than the fact that he doesn't was supicious to me, especially because his case on Hiraki isn't very convincing. At least vote Zito and get him to defend himself for that comment, instead he lets Zito fly right by making a "scum tell"subgenius wrote:If I thought there was any probability that you're serious, I might.Ashblade wrote: Grey is town, you going to lynch me for saying that?
so again he thinks zito has done something scummy , but doesn't pursue itThis seems like putting on blinders to me. If Zito wants to privately assume Erratus is town, that's his business, but I think issuing a proclamation that so-and-so is town is unhelpful at best and scummy at worst. Unhelpful because it's artificially putting an end to a conversation that might lead somewhere, scummy because it conveys a certainty that a townie simply can't have.
and this point was a 100% complete misrep of me, I can't say about the other person, but my post was more trying to get an explanation from the person, not trying to get them to vote for subs.lso, they have both since directed posts at folks who voted elsewhere that would seem to be urging them to put the final votes on me.
if he is convinced that one of us are scum, why isn't he voting for one of us, why vote for Barry for a reason that I don't even understandJesus H. Christ, go ahead and keep ignoring what I'm actually saying. I'm almost absolutely certain that either you or Rob is scum. Probably not both, but I'd be SHOCKED if one of you doesn't turn up as mafia. Clever use of my free straw man, btw.
yeah I agree there are more people who need to participate, but I am not going to not vote to lynch the person I think is scum, because we are waiting to get those people to talk. and just because a person is at L-2 it doesn't mean that he will be lynched quickly.Snake Eyes wrote:For one, we don't have a consensus, and for another, we have 2 players who have not contributed anything at all. Ending the day would be very premature right now. Town generally benefits from more discussion anyway, so I don't get why you're suggesting a lynch already when day 1 has been going on for less than a week.RobCapone wrote:There is no rule that says we can't end the day early, the deadline is there to make surecwe don't go too long but if a consensus is reached earlier, there is nothing wrong with that.
technically you did ask for a case, you were vague at who you directed it to but you did ask for a caseHiraki wrote:Well good thing I didn't ask you to make a case, and I did make a case. This is just a notation. I don't need to make a case for anyone really.RobC wrote:not really isn't really a valid response, your reason is nonsense and if you are going to ask people to make cases, you shoudl be willing to do the same. so make a case on the person you are voting for
also this point -Hiraki wrote:RobCapone can die too.
Can I get a good case on subgenius? His play doesn't qualify as a good reason for me.
actually you should be able to make a case on the person you are voting for if you are town, especially if somebody asks you to. refusal to make a case IS a scumtellI don't need to make a case for anyone really.
but your example isn't valid because we don't have an investigative role claiming anyone is innocent and nobody is cleared town.Person X calls you scum. Person Z says he has an innocent on you and a guilty on confirmed town, Person X. I do believe that you should defend Person X.RobC wrote:no it isn't getting but-hurt, I may not attack the person who is accusing me of being scum, but I am damn sure am not going to defend them. your defending subs makes no sense and you haven't provided reasons for why he is not scum. and again you have not provided anything valid for your vote. My reasoning may not make sense to you, but I don't have to convince you of my reason for my vote.
This is valid because you're ignoring and being anti-town. That's good enough for me to vote.
i am not advocating a quick lynch, and this wagon isn't anything close to a quick lynch. Errant's wagon was a perfect example of a quick lynch.Great. You can think. Obviously we shouldn't quicklynch anyone. It's kind of already known that we're not.RobC wrote:I didn't say this randomly, he brought it up like it actually means something. the fact that we have a long deadline means nothing and doesn't mean that if we suspect someone of scum, we should wait out the entire 2 weeks before lynching him
ooh you sighedRight. Because applying pressure is now scummy. Noted. If you honestly thought he wanted to lynch that quickly, then I sigh.RobC wrote:um yes he said he supports a Sub wagon and now there is one, he wants to move focus off of it. that is scummy play, added that Zito hasn't really provided anything of value and hasn't scum hunted is yet another reason I pointed it out.
[/quote]1. Okay. But what's your point? Are you honestly going to lynch him on the basis of that?RobC wrote:I don't know how many game he has played on the old mafiascum site and you really can't check. plus I didn't think I had to check his game log when I saw he was here since 2008.
but back to the other question, town can act however he wants but to me he seems like he is trying to earn town points when he makes comments like this
2. The use of the word town makes me quite wary of a slip, me spies.
can you pay attention please?subgenius wrote:So you're admitting that you already knew he posted his reasons, maybe ones that aren't up to your standards, but we've already established that according to you, no player is under any obligation to make their reasons convincing to other players (or does that only apply to you?), yet you're accusing him of committing a scum tell by not making a case. Neat.
he is voting him based on 1 comment he said, which wasn't a scum slip or even suspicious comment, hence not a valid enough reason, that was also way back on page 6 and he hasn't done anything else to add to his reasons or do anything else to try and get that person lynched.RobCapone wrote:hey there mr. lurker,Hiraki wrote:RobCapone can die too.
Can I get a good case on subgenius? His play doesn't qualify as a good reason for me.why don't you make a case for the person you are voting for because the reason you gave doesn't qualify as a good reason for me.
welcome to the game, this is your first post in 3 days and that is all you comment on?Hayker wrote:Please get to this now before you have time to make a case.Papa Zito wrote:Oh, it makes perfect sense. But we'll get to that later.RobCapone wrote:this makes no sense whatsoever
1. lurking doesn't mean you get prodded btw, that is being inactive, lurking is posting just enough to avoid prods or to stay off the radarHiraki wrote:Bullshit and you know it. Erratus wagon was opportunistic. Bill was the one who liked opportunity.Hayker wrote:Question @ Zito: Why were you so quick to clear Erratus like that? It was a bandwagon that was pretty much guaranteed to happen with what was said pre-game.
Rob is just being stupid at the moment. Bill was scummy, and he knows it.
And for the record, there is no possible way that I'm lurking. It's D1, 11 Pages. I've had no prod checks.
Here's a better question.
Rob. Why aren't you voting me?