Open 879: Fire and More Fire [game over]

[Doctor Drew]

Howdy all.

Gonna read up shortly.

[Doctor Drew]

This is gonna be a bit of herky jerky catch up, seems like we are just leaving RVS anyways.

Osuka is being Osuka I see, tbh they actually seem toned down a bit, actually a bit less aggressive....let's see if I can fire(eh? See what I didn't there) them up a bit.

Not sure why recognizing or not recognizing people has been a topic of discussion, but I know everyone and no one.

Howdy Bingle, howdy Merlyn, howdy Black(glad you didn't get blown away), howdy Sky....etc etc.

Just a heads up, there was a crazy wind storm in my city last night and power is out everywhere. It must have messed with my phone service provider because I can't even connect to 5G at my apartment. There are estimates my power will be out for several days so I'm not really sure what to expect here. Either way I'll catch up when I'm able to get internet at home

Jeez, hope you're okay Black!

Merlyn goes in my locktown bin because she's the only person that cares about me

VOTE: Firebringer

if you pick out all the capitalized letters in Firebringer's posts it spells out "I am the scum" VOTE: Firebringer

Let's run FB up until he decides to post something else

And if he doesn't? Send the wagon over the cliff and don't even look back

Are we really talking a policy lim here? FB just really likes GeorgeBailely.

VOTE: invis

Consider this a vote for Black as well.

Also, I agree with Bingle that scum will definitely be trying to signal to each other, was that Asuka saying that is crazy? That kind makes me think they don't want town looking for the signals, like 'nothing to see here, move along'.

[Doctor Drew]

Ooh enter the game on a page top.

Ausuka, unless Bingle is scum specifically with you, they don't know your alignment.

Can you explain how this is a scum read?

[Doctor Drew]

if anyone wants to guess how many shots of vodka i've had i'll give you my vote

5 shots, and a beer mixed in as well.

Ooh now I want some bourbon, good thing I am actually at a bar right now.

[Doctor Drew]

im pretty sure weve never played before

I'm sure I knew your username coming into this game, but I also don't see any games in your topics that any of the various mes have been in. I'll retract my not caring about calling me out on my shitposting, as clearly I was wrong on you calling me out on my shitposting.

The correct way of dealing with Osuka is telling him to fuck off.

[Doctor Drew]

I have had no issues with Osuka's posting. As far as I'm concerned, he can continue fucking on as long as he wants.

Neither do I overall. But sometimes you have to, ahem.....fight fire with fire.

[Doctor Drew]

Drew signaling scum.

Ya I just realized I need to be more subtle about it. Was just so excited to sub into a scum slot.

[Doctor Drew]

Doctor Drew replaces towwl.

GEORGE BAILEY!!!!!

I don't know if this is happiness I subbed in, or anger haha.

[Doctor Drew]

VOTE: Doctor Drew

This is largely unrelated to the fire with fire thing, I meant to do this after the vote count and forgot.

Well I am Ice Mafia, so the fire thing was some misdirection.

Pre Edit: Rat, they will never know.

And Bingle, the Ice Mafia is the Cult....maybe I will recruit you tonight

[Doctor Drew]

Drew signaling scum.

Ya I just realized I need to be more subtle about it. Was just so excited to sub into a scum slot.

Don't worry, just OMGUS me for a bit and we'll look totally unaligned, no one'll notice

Also, you are just too townie to get away with an OMGUS. You are barking up the wrong tree, but ya gotta bark up all the trees before the squirrels start running away.

[Doctor Drew]

Could you not? I've seen how bad you are as a cult leader. I was by far the best Dr. Rockso.

Ugh that game, listen....first time ever as CL there. I have grown an matured since then.

I forgot you were in that game.

Pre Edit: Looks like everyone else is doing the OMGUS for me.....I don't get it though.

[Doctor Drew]

if anyone wants to guess how many shots of vodka i've had i'll give you my vote

5 shots, and a beer mixed in as well.

Ooh now I want some bourbon, good thing I am actually at a bar right now.

I happen to be reading this with a quality scotch in hand but I'm usually more of a bourbon man myself.

Ooh, what scotch is it?

[Doctor Drew]

Oban 14yo

Legit one of my fave scotch's.

Umlaut lock town.

[Doctor Drew]

If I have to do this every time I want to get townread it's going to get expensive though.

Ha.

You could have went Ardbeg 33 year, that is like $4000.

[Doctor Drew]

osuka reminds me of confident town players trying to emulate their playstyle as scum but not actually believing the bullshit they're saying
Reminds me a lot of Baltar in this game actually viewtopic.php?t=90886
VOTE: osuka

i would ask if youve never seen me play but i know for a fact you have, so can we get the bullshit "oh osuka sounds like a dick" out of the way and actually give a reason why you think my role pm is red?

does this happen a lot

it happened the last game i played, with none other than meuh, in the thread which is conveniently linked in 171

Why did they mention Baltar then?

[Doctor Drew]

osuka reminds me of confident town players trying to emulate their playstyle as scum but not actually believing the bullshit they're saying
Reminds me a lot of Baltar in this game actually viewtopic.php?t=90886
VOTE: osuka

i would ask if youve never seen me play but i know for a fact you have, so can we get the bullshit "oh osuka sounds like a dick" out of the way and actually give a reason why you think my role pm is red?

does this happen a lot

it happened the last game i played, with none other than meuh, in the thread which is conveniently linked in 171

Why did they mention Baltar then?

beats me. why do you sound confused?

Were you a dick to Meuh or Baltar?

Or was Baltar the dick?

I clicked the link, but not reading through the game.

[Doctor Drew]

Are we really talking a policy lim here? FB just really likes GeorgeBailely.

I did not wish to policy Fiorebringer. I do not condone Black's bloodlust

So you think they are scum?

[Doctor Drew]

Are we really talking a policy lim here? FB just really likes GeorgeBailely

Hi drew! I don't really like policy lims D1. But I do enjoy talking about limming FB

Same question to you I asked Invis, so do you scum read them?

[Doctor Drew]

Are we really talking a policy lim here? FB just really likes GeorgeBailely

Hi drew! I don't really like policy lims D1. But I do enjoy talking about limming FB

Same question to you I asked Invis, so do you scum read them?

FB? No. All he has posted is George Bailey lol

So.....back to it being policy?

Is it you think they will drop the gimmick, Invis admitted the vote didn't accomplish that.

I just don't get the votes on him, trying to figure out what you two are doing.

[Doctor Drew]

VOTE: Drew

You good bro?

I am fantastic.

Ngl, it isn't your vote on FB per se that I have an issue with.....

[Doctor Drew]

Let's talk

Ok, I love a good chat.

Why do you think I have an issue with your and Invis' vote on FB?

[Doctor Drew]

Well it seems like you think

we

want to policy lim him

It is the bolded part for me.

Do you see where I am going here?

[Doctor Drew]

So you think Vizzy and I are scum together? Ok go on then

Not in the same Pt

[Doctor Drew]

VOTE: Firebringer ruined the economy

Just a heads up, there was a crazy wind storm in my city last night and power is out everywhere. It must have messed with my phone service provider because I can't even connect to 5G at my apartment. There are estimates my power will be out for several days so I'm not really sure what to expect here. Either way I'll catch up when I'm able to get internet at home

Jeez, hope you're okay Black!

Merlyn goes in my locktown bin because she's the only person that cares about me

VOTE: Firebringer

if you pick out all the capitalized letters in Firebringer's posts it spells out

"I am the scum"

VOTE: Firebringer

Invis votes FB as an RVS vote, then follows with seemingly jokey votes on Cook and Towwl. I feel like Invis was gauging the reactions to the votes.

Black votes FB, then Invis basically immediately follows suit but includes the bolded part.....which is the biggest signal to me.

I feel Invis strongly feels like Black's vote on FB was a signal to them(them being Invis), and Black's response to just run FB no matter what was the response that makes me feel that Black was picking up what Invis was putting down.

This is why I have been a bit vague with Black, seems more clear that Invis was signalling more than Black.....but am fine with a Black vote as well.

Pre Edit: Eww Black, you should I don't do mech talk lol

And FB, it is ok....the bad people will be killed soon.

[Doctor Drew]

George
Bailey

getting quite insistent

ill make a deal with you and everyone else in the game.
Vote out bingle and ill stop the gimmick.

Bingle is pretty obvious scum here.

Jokes on you, you already broke before a Bingle lim.

But, I need to be sold on Bingle.

[Doctor Drew]

would mafia even wanna signal here? Feels like that could backfire extremely easily

They absolutely would, they could implode overnight if they don't.

[Doctor Drew]

would mafia even wanna signal here? Feels like that could backfire extremely easily

They absolutely would, they could implode overnight if they don't.

yeah I guess. Maybe I'm just more confused as to how they would do it. I guess through compounding subtleties or whatever

I mean, I feel like you already did it.

[Doctor Drew]

VOTE: Bingle anyway Firebringer raises many good points

What points exactly?

[Doctor Drew]

VOTE: Bingle anyway Firebringer raises many good points

What points exactly?

oh you know all of them

Oh well in that case.....

[Doctor Drew]

How would black even know to signal to invisibility!!! Why would invisibility take her voting the same person as a signal!!!! This makes no sense!!!!

This is more about Invis signalling than Black, this is why I was being vague with Black about my reasoning for my vote on Invis, I wanted to gauge her reaction about if she knew why i was voting where I was voting. And signalling isn't going to make sense if you aren't the target of said signal.

VOTE: Firebringer ruined the economy

Just a heads up, there was a crazy wind storm in my city last night and power is out everywhere. It must have messed with my phone service provider because I can't even connect to 5G at my apartment. There are estimates my power will be out for several days so I'm not really sure what to expect here. Either way I'll catch up when I'm able to get internet at home

Jeez, hope you're okay Black!

Merlyn goes in my locktown bin because she's the only person that cares about me

VOTE: Firebringer

if you pick out all the capitalized letters in Firebringer's posts it spells out

"I am the scum"

VOTE: Firebringer

Invis votes FB as an RVS vote, then follows with seemingly jokey votes on Cook and Towwl. I feel like Invis was gauging the reactions to the votes.

Black votes FB, then Invis basically immediately follows suit but includes the bolded part.....which is the biggest signal to me.

I feel Invis strongly feels like Black's vote on FB was a signal to them(them being Invis), and Black's response to just run FB no matter what was the response that makes me feel that Black was picking up what Invis was putting down.

This is why I have been a bit vague with Black, seems more clear that Invis was signalling more than Black.....but am fine with a Black vote as well.

Pre Edit: Eww Black, you should I don't do mech talk lol

And FB, it is ok....the bad people will be killed soon.

This is.... incredibly contrived. It only makes sense if Invisibility were to already know Black is scum, but then there'd be no need for signaling. And sure, as I said before, scum has an advantage over Town in hunting the other pair, but voting the same person in early D1 is just... not enough.

Plus, the "I am the scum" thing is being attributed to Firebringer, so like. That's a few too many lines to expect someone to read between and come away with the correct conclusion.

Saying 'I am scum' is not reading between the lines. That is the signal right there, and the fact that you take it as clearly just being about FB, means it worked on many levels, they didn't want you to figure it out.....only their buddy. And if I am correct, of course Invis has no idea who the other two scum is besides their hood buddy, that is the whole point about trying to signal, reach out to your other buddies without making it obvious to others that you are.

And again, it may not even mean Black is scum( though I kinda feel like it is), but that Invis was clearly signalling here.

[Doctor Drew]

See, what I find most interesting with this is that Drew specifically attached to your post as being a signal, which out of all the posts I think could have maybe looked like signals (I won't be pointing them out so as not to influence possible scum perceptions; ask me after we get one pair down), yours is probably among the least likely, at least to my eyes.

To me, the reading is that Drew picked something he thought he could sell as being a signal rather than something he genuinely believed was.

I don't get your angle here, you agree that they might be signalling....but you disagree on which post/posts have the signals, which is fair.....and that makes me scum?

Like I believe you were suspicious of Towel(correct me if I am wrong, but it seemed like you were ready to vote my slot before I did anything) so I can understand if the suspicions are still there when I rep in, but kinda feels like you are just reaching for a reason to keep scum reading me, starting to feel less genuine now to me.

[Doctor Drew]

What's the reason for the Bingle wagon again?

GEORgeBAILey

Ok maybe FB actually is scum.

[Doctor Drew]

See, what I find most interesting with this is that Drew specifically attached to your post as being a signal, which out of all the posts I think could have maybe looked like signals (I won't be pointing them out so as not to influence possible scum perceptions; ask me after we get one pair down), yours is probably among the least likely, at least to my eyes.

To me, the reading is that Drew picked something he thought he could sell as being a signal rather than something he genuinely believed was.

I don't get your angle here, you agree that they might be signalling....but you disagree on which post/posts have the signals, which is fair.....and that makes me scum?

Like I believe you were suspicious of Towel(correct me if I am wrong, but it seemed like you were ready to vote my slot before I did anything) so I can understand if the suspicions are still there when I rep in, but kinda feels like you are just reaching for a reason to keep scum reading me, starting to feel less genuine now to me.

I am referring to posts from people who are not Invisibility. Essentially, I believe that if you're serious about calling out signaling, there are others with stronger cases you're ignoring, possibly because you find them believable. I'm choosing not to point those out yet, but I'll be happy to once one scum pair is dead.

Invisibility's post is not super likely to be a genuine signal, as I've outlined earlier, but her using the phrasing she did gave you an angle to push it as one.

I'll admit you're right about me having a bias from towwl's posting, but you haven't really done anything to make me doubt that read yet.

I feel signalling is the big scum tell here on D1, I also feel Invis made what I believe is the most believable(and easy to explain away) signal that I saw. Sure, maybe I missed another or I am reading too much into this.....but just what I believe.

You saying you saw some signals, and not saying what you saw......and only revealing them after one scum pair is dead.......and your timing of your vote on me, and the fitting the argument to match the conclusion......is what makes me feel you are not genuine. You just feel you can get the mis elim on me and are fine with that.

[Doctor Drew]

This is pretty much the feeling I'm getting from Drew. Bingle doesn't really feel significantly off from how he did in Team Mafia to me, and I find his version of this play more plausible, so I've been lightly townleaning him

Bingle feels exactly the same as he did in Election Mafia to me.
Also Drew is too confrontational with people to be scum here.

George Bailey

What was Bingle in Election Mafia?

George Fucking Bailey

[Doctor Drew]

I believe in townbringer

Black's votes are scummy but then scum are probably less likely than town to do something scummy like that so I am going to townread black instead

Also this read on Black is hot garbage and makes me feel better about my vote.

I like Umlaut, and I like Bingle.... despite what the haterz say. I will sheep them on someone I don't like.

VOTE: Ausuka

[Doctor Drew]

I believe in townbringer

Black's votes are scummy but then scum are probably less likely than town to do something scummy like that so I am going to townread black instead

Please explain how this makes any sense at all

This post really was the tipping point for me, almost reads like they are really forcing trying to have a townread.

[Doctor Drew]

I believe in townbringer

Black's votes are scummy but then scum are probably less likely than town to do something scummy like that so I am going to townread black instead

Please explain how this makes any sense at all

What is there you don't understand? Something that's blatantly 'scummy' is something scum will be mindful to avoid doing most of the time, whereas town are less likely to care

What about Blacks votes do you consider 'scummy'?

[Doctor Drew]

I believe in townbringer

Black's votes are scummy but then scum are probably less likely than town to do something scummy like that so I am going to townread black instead

Also this read on Black is hot garbage and makes me feel better about my vote.

I like Umlaut, and I like Bingle.... despite what the haterz say. I will sheep them on someone I don't like.

VOTE: Ausuka

Yesss, the scotch pocket is working

("The scotch pocket" is my signature sex move)

Good whiskey will make me do many things.

[Doctor Drew]

To an extent, yes, but also there's a reason the things are scummy, and that's usually because scum does them.

Everything is context dependent but on the whole i disagree with this

So how exactly do you form your scum reads?

Also as an aside, I was in Coventry today......Coventry, Connecticut.

This all reminds of the last Datisi game where they also brought up New London, Connecticut to kinda troll you lol.

[Doctor Drew]

this is my 5555th mafia scum post

n00b

[Doctor Drew]

I like Bulge's case on Bingle but then I look at Bingle's ISO and it's like, hmm. Kind of just wanna leave that slot to sort for later

Last game of this sort(technically fire and ice) Bulge was way less present than here. They would kind of pop in to piss of python(which I was doing much the same lol).

This Bulge seems so different, like they turned on try hard mode. It really is pinging me hard in my gut.

Though that could just be the Wendys I just ate.

[Doctor Drew]

My heart still says Drew, but I'll also take Cook or Black.

May compromise on Bingle, but I'd rather not yet.

Never voting for either of the 'sukas or Firebringer today, barring some wacky developments.

Whenever I've read a Drew post so far I just think "that sure is a Drew post" and then move on with very marginal changes of my perception of him
Probably doesn't help that his most substantial posting has revolved around the signaling stuff and that entire discussion's just went over my head

I just want my posting to become a site meme, like even if someone else posts like me.....'Not sure why Meuh is Drew Posting here' lol.

And I guess Umlaut and I are in each other's whiskey pocket because I also don't get the case on Bingle, clearly I am fine with yeeting Ausuka.....don't feel as great about a Cook compromise though, seems too policy-ish.

[Doctor Drew]

i may or may not be taking acid 2morrow

a poll: should my first bout of serious posting be on page 25+ while tripping acid? please vote:

a) yea
b) hell yea
c) nah
d) skyg what are ya doin drugs are illegal

Honestly, expanding your mind like this.....you might just solve the game in the most amazing way.

[Doctor Drew]

I kinda want a flash Bulge wagon......but I can't quit me some Ausuka.

Or a flash Osuka wagon.

Not buying what they are selling.

[Doctor Drew]

Or you can join me on the wagon that GeorgeBailey would approve of

Bingle

Or are you not a follower of GeorgeBailey?

To hell and back I would follow GeorgeBailey......but not to a Bingle wagon.

@doc what am i selling?

This kinder gentler Osuka......too much 'not wanting to ruffle feathers' tone from you.

[Doctor Drew]

I haven't been dancing around the Bingle wagon, I have been pretty clear I don't think anything they have done seems scummy and I don't have any interest in joining it.

I do find it strange that Bingle includes me in the group that is 'dancing around' the wagon.

[Doctor Drew]

I haven't been dancing around the Bingle wagon, I have been pretty clear I don't think anything they have done seems scummy and I don't have any interest in joining it.

Sure you have. You've not had any interest in joining it, but that's exactly what I'm saying. I don't think scum will really want to hop on my wagon here. You also haven't done any real defending of me, which is reasonable. I don't particularly scumread your lack of involvement in the wagon, but it is where I expect scum to be atm. Similarly, Meuh also doesn't 'have any interest in joining it'. Compare: Umlaut and Merlyn actively defending me, although not particularly strongly.

I am sure Bulge remembers from Fire and Ice python basically said the same thing(in a much more condescending tone) that not hard defending a town read(or in this case a not scum read) is a bad look.

I don't get that.

Unless I have a hard town read on you, or am informed you are town, I won't hard defend you. I will like to look elsewhere, I will be vocal that I will most likely not join the wagon, but I definitely have been wrong so if the wotc is that you have done the most scummy things, I won't throw myself in front of the train for you(obviously can be dependent on who is driving the wagon as well.....but on D1 I am going to not pay too much attention to that, need some information before there is some hard reads).

But enough about you(also not sure why, but triscuits are my jam when my tum tum wants to yeet all contents in all directions).

Merlyn, I hope you are here.....you voted me but really haven't mentioned me as of late. I believe you did say you don't like the Bingle wagon.....but I don't think I know your thoughts on others.....what do you think of Bulge pushing hard on them.

Osuka, you are completely different than I remember. You really seem to be playing it safe and yes.....are way less aggressive. This doesn't ping right to me.

Ausuka, why do you disagree? You were in the same game with Osuka and I, you cannot say they are the same here.

[Doctor Drew]

I feel like "everyone on my wagon is town" is not the readlist Bingle comes up with if they are just making things up to sound towny

See this is the thing, everything that people(like here) are using to town read Bingle, is NAI stuff.

Everything that people are using to scum read Bingle, is NAI stuff.

I know how wishy washy and non-commital I am coming off in regards to them.......but I just find it odd that they are the lightning rod here.

I have felt that there is scum on the wagon of them(Ausuka and/or Bulge), but I kinda feel there could also be an over correction on the other side and those defending Bingle could be scum either hoping to look towny, or thought they saw a signal.

And then there is me with my tinfoil hat lol.......this was kind of a stream of consciousness post. But I just can't understand why Bingle is at the center of everything.

I will say, Umlaut......in the Scotch Pocket tonight was some actually some Angels Envy bourbon. Always yummy.

[Doctor Drew]

everyone here is so friendly ive never gotten so many hi's

Fuck of Sheep you piece of garbage.

Does that make you feel more comfortable lol.

[Doctor Drew]

everyone here is so friendly ive never gotten so many hi's

Fuck of Sheep you piece of garbage.

Does that make you feel more comfortable lol.

wow that feels more like forum mafia

It is like the partner you know is bad for you, but you can't quit them.

[Doctor Drew]

Don't be a hater because I am not sheeping you Merlyn.

If there are players that I like, and that I feel somewhat confident are not scum, there is a decent chance I will sheep them, at least for a bit.

Also you just lost your opportunity to be a part of the Whiskey Pocket

[Doctor Drew]

Don't be a hater because I am not sheeping you Merlyn.

If there are players that I like, and that I feel somewhat confident are not scum, there is a decent chance I will sheep them, at least for a bit.

Also you just lost your opportunity to be a part of the Whiskey Pocket

Well jokes on you bc I prefer bourbon

I have some bad news for you then......

Also, Sheep is town.....and I forget who they even replaced!

[Doctor Drew]

VOTE: drew

Was it me calling you a piece of garbage?

Just want to make you feel at home lol.

Pre Edit: I kinda don't understand this post Sheep

[Doctor Drew]

I think readlists like the one merlyn just posted are very +town

what quality of merlyn's readslist do you tr

it's like the types of explanations that are there. like I havent read this mafia game I have no clue how good the explanations are. but theyre very free-flowing and un-calculated and feel genuinely off the top of the head

tonally

I think readlists like the one merlyn just posted are very +town

what quality of merlyn's readslist do you tr

sorry that wording is dumb

i mean why "readslists like the one merlyn just posted" and not simply "the readslist merlyn just posted"

I am basing this off of a lazy general understanding that I thought applied the moment I saw it. "big posts that feel like that, that cover every player with a couple lines just like that, have appeared in my forum mafia experience and have been town".

Rather than, "I spent critical thinking and time pondering on Merlyn's post here and came to this conclusion"

idk

what was the purpose of this question

what do you think about Merlyn's post

These posts seem genuine, especially the second one. Like you read it, especially with just getting your feet wet here, and said....seems legit.

And you weren't trying to ascribe some bigger meaning to your read, just a tonal thing as you side.

I totally get that.

[Doctor Drew]

We are starting to enter the phase of the Bingle/Osuka back and forth where I just wanna say either get a room you two or just do anything else.....flash wagon me for all I care.

Just please stop.

[Doctor Drew]

Also welcome Don, I am still the OG.

[Doctor Drew]

Radical Rat do you feel like you've exited your wolfrange

I still can't see Rat as scum.

And I forget, who did you replace sheep?

[Doctor Drew]

cook

Oh ok ty, I was wondering why you had votes on you lol.

[Doctor Drew]

Radical Rat do you feel like you've exited your wolfrange

I don't think I really have a "wolfrange," but I can say that if I were scum I'd be on Bingle right now. Assuming Bingle wasn't my lover anyway.

Bingle is my lover.

Always will have a special place in my heart.

[Doctor Drew]

Ok, you know what?

Y'all are some dumbasses who want to lim Bingle.

If Osuka isn't gonna be the giant asshole, well then buckle up dickheads cause asshole Drew is here to fuck shit up, drink your booze, and bang your wife.

How are they more scummy then Ausuka? Or Osuka?

Sucka's gotta go.

[Doctor Drew]

bang your wife

Jokes on you: she's imaginary, metal, and riddled with communicable diseases.

Well lucky for both of us, everyone else was the subject of my fury.

[Doctor Drew]

My alchohol is decent though. I've got a bottle of Balvenie Doublewood on my desk right now. (#Scotchclub)

Well then seems like we have a solid Whiskey Pocket between you, Umlaut, and myself(Merlyn is still out).

If you have some Lagavulin I may have to vote you though.

[Doctor Drew]

If you have some Lagavulin I may have to vote you though.

Unironically, Lagavulin tastes like the flavor of tar fumes when you work with tar in an enclosed space for too long.

No that is Ardbeg.

Lagavulin is the bees knees.

[Doctor Drew]

We are reaching the point where we need to start making decisions.

I'd really rather not settle on Bingle, so if you could either sell me on Cook/sheep being Town or join me here, that would be greatly appreciated.

I still think one of the Suka's gotta go.

[Doctor Drew]

Lagavulin is the bees knees.

I'm sorry, were you busy being wrong?

Never actually had any of the Japanese single malts.

[Doctor Drew]

If Osuka isn't gonna be the giant asshole, well then buckle up dickheads cause asshole Drew is here to fuck shit up, drink your booze, and bang your wife.

HIDE YO KIDS, HIDE YO WIFE

You stealing my rhymes from a previous game?

I won't be around too much before deadline so decent chance I won't be moving my vote, which I am obviously perfectly fine with.

[Doctor Drew]

prodding Firebringer.

George Bailey????

[Doctor Drew]

Tbh after reading drew's iso again i could maybe compromise there

He has towny vibes but his actual reads kind of suck and feel pretty stagnant. I guess I'm biased on me but his osuka read is also bad and static

pedit: I always copy people's homework

Why is my Osuka read bad, you never explained that.

And it is fair to say I have bad reads, but why would you compromise on someone who has towny vibes?

And is it just stagnant because I have consistently wanted to lim you over Bingle, or Sheep, or most others?

[Doctor Drew]

Osuka made towel replace out and has spent the whole game calling people stupid but you have said he is scum for being insufficiently aggressive. If that was part of your case that's one thing but I'm pretty sure that's the main reason you want to kill osuka which is pretty difficult to believe for me.

Your read on me is stagnant - you voted me because you townread bingle and then said i was scum for thinking black was town because she wasn't self conscious or something? And like, since then i don't think you've really responded to anything i've said, including my clarification of that, vs just insisting I am scum repeatedly

First off, I have repeatedly said I don't town read Bingle per se, just not at the top of the list of people I want to lim.....i have been clear about that. I just think your case on Bingle is shit and your read on Black was/is bonkers......and you are totally dismissing why I had an issue with that read.

You have an issue with me because I simply think you are scum and are my top choice to lim and haven't moved because of that.

Pre Edit: Votes amirite lol

Not Sheep, Black maybe to compromise, Rat I would not like either.......Drew is OG, bad vote there

[Doctor Drew]

Sure, as long as we actually do it. I overall like this wagon better anyway.

VOTE: Drew

Drew, if you flip green I'll owe you a glass of Lagavulin.

I will hold you to that.

I wish fb wasn't afk, he could tell you how wrong a new flash wagon at end of goes and is generally pushed by scum.....is fun to do actually ngl.

In the interest of keeping town alive I will switch to a counter wagon, better to go with an unknown then a certain green flip(from my perspective).

But will hold off for now because I seriously want Ausuka yeeted off the planet lol.

[Doctor Drew]

Lagavulin

Spoiler:

You guys keep reminding me of this fella and it makes me quake in my boots

Lol, I have no idea what that is.

[Doctor Drew]

Imagine knowing the names of the enemies instead of just going "Ah the fuckin' egg dude"

Ah the fuckin egg dude.

Umlaut, get in the pocket and pour me a whiskey.

Vote

Quimby

Ausuka

[Doctor Drew]

I'd be so happy with that but there's like 0 momentum, it makes vanity wagons look like they're speeding

You didn't seem too opposed to these with zero momentum(well besides the Bingle wagon which obviously was the top wagon for most of the day, but you seem to be rallying for certain lims to go through no problem that had no momentum, why the issue now?)

RR come consolidate on Bingle with me

I think Umlaut also stated interest in Black? If that's doable then I could do that

Actually wasn't Black also in like null pile in Merlyn's list, maybe Merlyn can jump on

If Sheep materializes I'll jump on also

I'll also obviously jump on Drew if that happens

Is sheep happening though? Cause the Donempire vote switch made that a lot less tangible in my eyes

LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOO VOTE: Drew this is the wagon that'll work trust trust

Pre Edit: Oh look, Ausuka moves her vote again....ain't that something.

[Doctor Drew]

my drew case can be summed up that if he is scum i would see him trying to be more political and not moving his reads around aggressively.

For instance the way he was questioning people about pressuring me and then flipped around to calling me scum for a minute was classic towndrew move.

flip flopping so fast is not that great for scum because it catches eyes.
Also way he has disagreed with various opinions and has his quirky unique takes are more town drew.

THis has been my ted talk brought to you by georgebailey

Ausuka was calling him out for having stagnant reads that haven't changed in ages and you're saying he's switching his reads aggressively
I could check who's right by ISOing Drew but that sounds lame

It is stagnant, I have felt Ausuka is scum for awhile, and my lost post should be another nail in her coffin if you actually read it. Why is thinking someone is scum for a good portion of the day a bad thing?

Also meuh is town.
Drew join the black elim gang if ur not on it

VOTE: Black

In the interest of preventing a mis-lim.

Pre Edit: Bulge is a maybe, like Ausuka in a way not a fan of the Bingle push

[Doctor Drew]

I should be awake in plenty of time to move my vote if I pass out, btw. I’d be down for a lot of options over black, including osuka for the recent blatantly lying about my posts that everyone ignored.

I have been down to yeet either suka.

[Doctor Drew]

I was the first to push drew before it was cool and was always down to vote their I think we look pretty unpaired

confirmed pair

You realize there is literally no benefit to busing your lover in this game, right? You die too so you can't do anything with the towncred.

Too much Oban, Umlaut?

[Doctor Drew]

Never too much Oban

That is actually a great point.

i’m all here for the sheep wagon, i don’t think drew is a good one

Why Sheep?

[Doctor Drew]

Lol, never would have guessed Meuh was scum from all the wagon hopping at the end of the day

[Doctor Drew]

Meuh actually was very scummy at the end of the day, imo at least. To your point FB, that might have been intentional to try to avoid the NK.

[Doctor Drew]

doctor drew who is mafia

I still feel confident there is one between the 'Sukas.....maybe even both.

[Doctor Drew]

i don't see why you would kill me after black flip Bingle
or invisibility

both seem like bad kill targets

idk doing the whole who would kill who has never been a good way to clear or solve anyone so i think this discussion pointless.

Also osuka has been townread by almost everyone excluding yourself.

[Doctor Drew]

i'm too tired to argue with bingle over shit that i have already explained so for the time being i'll just say you're wrong, you know why you're wrong, i've explained why you're wrong, you should go back to the post where i did all of that and read it until some of that information eventually makes its way to your brain

Then proceeds to post more hoping to encite more arguments with Bingle.

[Doctor Drew]

i'm almost willing to look elsewhere d2 based solely off of the fact that i can't get myself to believe scum would play THIS poorly

This especially makes George Bailey roll over in his grave.

[Doctor Drew]

Lol, never would have guessed Meuh was scum from all the wagon hopping at the end of the day

Don't remember your vote reflecting that bit of wisdom my dear doctor

Well I was dealing with a bit of self preservation, admittedly.....but I don't think there was a big wave of support to lim Meuh yesterday, even after I posted the quotes of them vote hopping.

Hindsight and all, but after their flip it did seem pretty obvious in retrospect.

[Doctor Drew]

Also

VOTE: osuka

[Doctor Drew]

Lol, never would have guessed Meuh was scum from all the wagon hopping at the end of the day

Don't remember your vote reflecting that bit of wisdom my dear doctor

Well I was dealing with a bit of self preservation, admittedly.....but I don't think there was a big wave of support to lim Meuh yesterday, even after I posted the quotes of them vote hopping.

Hindsight and all, but after their flip it did seem pretty obvious in retrospect.

Could it be you're feeling killer's remorse?

I am feeling remorse I didn't push them more at the end of the day, but again..... hindsight.

Pre Edit: Oh no, the Whiskey Pocket is imploding

[Doctor Drew]

hey drew i have problems with u today
i think i should revaluate u and ur awfully quiet in these convos right now

I have been working most of the day.

What convos you mean?

Pre Edit:I believe Bingle is town a whole more then Osuka town.

If you questions, just ask me

[Doctor Drew]

Yes you......questions,I am talking to you

[Doctor Drew]

i don't see why ur defending bingle in the way ur doing and why ur focused on osuka way u are.
it looks more like white knighting to me.

So how about we take 2 steps back and u tell me why u scumread osuka and why u townread bingle and maybe even add a dash of why these bingle/osuka fights are T/S

Bingle has been the Bingle I know, especially a recent game with them where a lot of mech speak has happened. There has been a push on them because of said mech speak and the discussion around it. I was not a fan of how that grew, since I know this as mainly NAI at worst with him. And as the back and forth with Osuka has grown I see what appears to be growing frustration. You just mentioned it if being a jerk is a town tell for Bingle, and I am not used to that side of Bingle, which makes me feel like he is super frustrated and borderline pissed town.

Osuka isn't 'as' clear of a read for me. It is based off vibes from previous games where they seemed way more aggressive. It really wasn't until the back and forth got going with Bingle didn't come out, but seemed a bit manufactured. I mentioned I this Ausuka has a high probability of being scum as well, this is partly because they were in the first game I was with Osuka and they keep saying they are just as, or more aggressive here, something isn't jiving there.

Now osuka seems to be trying to back away from Bingle since if you read the tea leaves there doesn't seem to be support for their Lim at the moment. It all doesn't sit right with me.

[Doctor Drew]

yeet

Black [8]:

Firebringer,

Meuh

, Radical Rat, Doctor Drew, Bingle, Merlyn, Ausuka, Donempire

[HAMMER]

Bingle [2]:

The Bulge

, osuka

Doctor Drew [1]:

sheepsaysmeep

Firebringer [1]:

Black

Merlyn [1]:

Invisibility

sheepsaysmeep [1]:

Umlaut

not voting [1]:

Skygazer

I would be quite surprised to learn there was only one scum on Black.

Does anyone disagree with this and think it's likely there was only one scum on Black? Because that's... kind of important for where we choose to vote today.

I mean most people have scum reads on at least one other person who voted for Black, so ya there definitely is a chance. But this kinda sounds like a hollow question, who would you say is scum on the wagon? And off the wagon if you don't think there are two scum on there?

Pre Edit: Bingle, you don't remember the eod flash wagon attempt on me?

[Doctor Drew]

I mean most people have scum reads on at least one other person who voted for Black, so ya there definitely is a chance. But this kinda sounds like a hollow question, who would you say is scum on the wagon? And off the wagon if you don't think there are two scum on there?

I've already said that I think scum on the wagon is between you, Bingle, Firebringer, and Merlyn. Out of those I want to vote out Bingle first because even if it's wrong it'll help us make better sense of Day 1 events.

I don't have an opinion one way or the other about whether both remaining scum were on the wagon. There's no reason they couldn't be, but if I magically knew there was scum off the wagon I'd go back to voting Sheep today.

Ok fair, I do remember you saying about who you want todays lim pool to be, my bad for glossing over it.

Does come off a bit as you know Bingle will be flipping town though.

[Doctor Drew]

Pre Edit: Bingle, you don't remember the eod flash wagon attempt on me?

Actually, coming back to this: If the premise of this question is "I was a viable lim at EoD" then what are your thoughts on wagon composition?

Let me go back and check who was voting me.

[Doctor Drew]

Or Drew, but I don't think there's enough interest there at this point.

VOTE: Black

Rat wants to vote me, but doesn't think it will go through, votes black. We will get back to this.

VOTE: drew I would do this lol

VOTE: drew

I STAND WITH SHEEP

Ausuka was just waiting for a chance to vote me lol

Alright, I'll call the bluff.

VOTE: Drew

If sheep tries to weasel out of it, we all immediately wagon him, yeah?

I actually find some partner equity here, maybe it is a bit tinfoily, but almost like Sheep and Rat manufactured this. Especially Rat talking about Sheep 'weaseling out of it', like he knew he wouldn't and was just for show.

FYI I'm no more certain Bingle is town than Drew so if the counterwagon goes that way I'm probably just giving up and voting Bingle.

Sure, as long as we actually do it. I overall like this wagon better anyway.

VOTE: Drew
Drew, if you flip green I'll owe you a glass of Lagavulin.

You will still owe me this

VOTE: Black
Well lets see if we can get this going at least

Then FB starts the counter wagon that everyone, including me, jumped on.

I do feel that Sheep and Rat are town on this wagon, I don't really feel they are partnered.....just reading this series of posts again made me wonder and wanted to just push my thoughts out as they came to me. And this is really more about Sheep then rat, I think Sheep is town.

You should know how I feel about Ausuka, she wasn't gonna make the case.....but sure as hell would jump to the chance of voting me.

Umlaut is the tricky one, seems to be open to voting Bingle or me......but doesn't jump on me(much like Ausuka) until a bit of momentum happens. Coupled with how I feel they seem kinda said they know Bingle will flip town, I might be talking myself into them as scum.

[Doctor Drew]

Bingle [3]: Firebringer, The Bulge, osuka,
sheepsaysmeep [2]: Umlaut
Firebringer [2]: Donempire, Black
Skygazer [2]:
Merlyn [1]: Invisibility
Meuh [1]: Bingle
Ausuka [1]: Doctor Drew
Donempire [1]: Merlyn
Drew: Sheep, Ausuka, Meuh, Rat, Umlaut

not voting [1]: Skygazer

Oh, hm. This is the endpoint for the Drew wagon when it was biggest, just before FB swung momentum back to black.

Umm, that was before my wagon happened.

[Doctor Drew]

Umm, that was before my wagon happened.

I moved the votes, look at the bottom of the quoted vc.

Not very user friendly lol, but I see now what you were doing.

[Doctor Drew]

Osuka isn't 'as' clear of a read for me. It is based off vibes from previous games where they seemed way more aggressive. It really wasn't until the back and forth got going with Bingle didn't come out, but seemed a bit manufactured. I mentioned I this Ausuka has a high probability of being scum as well, this is partly because they were in the first game I was with Osuka and they keep saying they are just as, or more aggressive here, something isn't jiving there.

I don't think I have the previous experience with Osuka to say for sure but I felt like Osuka was pretty dang aggro out of the gate with 120 and 134

That's the thing, that is Osuka holding back. You are kinda seeing some of the real aggression come out now with the back and forth with Bingle.....but even that feels performative.

Also fuck you Bingle you piece of human garbage.....see? Totally not trying to buddy them lol.

I keep saying it, I just never saw what other people saw in Bingle. Plus he is part of the Whiskey Pocket, though so is Umlaut and I am feeling more wary of them as days go by.

Ausuka, I don't change my reads for the sake of changing them, you can call it stagnant, but if nothing causes me to change them why would I. That being said here is a nice 180 for you(or maybe a 90 lol), your reads list does read pretty towny and your fleshed out read on me is kinda how my game goes, so there is that.

[Doctor Drew]

viewtopic.php?t=90809

[Doctor Drew]

viewtopic.php?t=90720

Two games I have experience with them.

[Doctor Drew]

They were town in both, as was I.

Ausuka was in second linked game, town I believe? I didn't even look to confirm lol. FB was scum in that game though(the second linked one).

I don't believe anyone alive here was in the first game.

[Doctor Drew]

Osuka isn't 'as' clear of a read for me. It is based off vibes from previous games where they seemed way more aggressive. It really wasn't until the back and forth got going with Bingle didn't come out, but seemed a bit manufactured. I mentioned I this Ausuka has a high probability of being scum as well, this is partly because they were in the first game I was with Osuka and they keep saying they are just as, or more aggressive here, something isn't jiving there.

I don't think I have the previous experience with Osuka to say for sure but I felt like Osuka was pretty dang aggro out of the gate with 120 and 134

That's the thing, that is Osuka holding back. You are kinda seeing some of the real aggression come out now with the back and forth with Bingle.....but even that feels performative.

Also fuck you Bingle you piece of human garbage.....see? Totally not trying to buddy them lol.

I keep saying it, I just never saw what other people saw in Bingle. Plus he is part of the Whiskey Pocket, though so is Umlaut and I am feeling more wary of them as days go by.

Ausuka, I don't change my reads for the sake of changing them, you can call it stagnant, but if nothing causes me to change them why would I. That being said here is a nice 180 for you(or maybe a 90 lol), your reads list does read pretty towny and your fleshed out read on me is kinda how my game goes, so there is that.

Is it? I mean like my memory of the game you're talking about is vague, but iirc he started flaming when people started trying to lim him on d2 or whatever, and most of his play in that game is broadly similar to here. That doesn't make him town, I just didn't get what you were talking about. Also like, I think holding someone to a standard of "you have to insult people a lot and call everyone a big stinky idiot or you're scum" is kind of lame and incentivizes behaviour which makes the game less fun

I don't expect you to change your reads for no reason but usually people's reads just change over time naturally with new posts and new evidence. I guess you've been doing that more recently

I am not saying osuka should be a dick or I am gonna scum read him, I just felt he was holding back a bit here. Much in the same way people say I am tighter when I am scum, I kinda get there could be a similar vibe with Osuka.

I fully realize I could be projecting my own self meta on him though.

[Doctor Drew]

this is a dumb conversation that will lead nowhere so i'll lay it out for everyone here: yes i was holding back, no it isn't theater, no it's not alignment indicative, yes it's just me getting tilted when i have to go through pages' worth of dumb shit

i try not to get tilted but sometimes it gets the better of me. i don't want to flame people and, contrary to popular belief, that's not my default behavior and i'm not actually an ass. i'm just eloquently explaining how and why a given take/opinion/post is stupid. that's all it is

[Doctor Drew]

We have 4 elims, 11 people minus 1 means 10 people to choose from and we win if we get just one. Besides, mafia can find me at night since the other pair is dead. The game is over at this point, elim fb an win ggnore

But like Osuka said, you were basically under no real danger here. Even if scum found you tonight, still would be another night before you were killed.

And you are doing it because you have the hubris to be that confident in your hero play on FB?

[Doctor Drew]

Does it matter why? What's done is done, and what's Don is Town. There's no real reason to interrogate this right now

Touche.

But Don this is why East Coast is better.

[Doctor Drew]

We have 4 elims, 11 people minus 1 means 10 people to choose from and we win if we get just one. Besides, mafia can find me at night since the other pair is dead. The game is over at this point, elim fb an win ggnore

But like Osuka said, you were basically under no real danger here. Even if scum found you tonight, still would be another night before you were killed.

And you are doing it because you have the hubris to be that confident in your hero play on FB?

Not because of that. Anyone who knows me knows i don't just ego, i just go for whatevers most optimal. Also, the second scenario of me living at least another day doesn't take into account the possibility maf found me today already - i wasn't exactly townread yesterday and it's not a low probability they checked me yesterday.

What i did here is just streamline the game further, so precious time isn't wasted on dwelling on my alignment. I was going to get night killed one way or another, and it doesn't hurt to reveal today instead of tomorrow. I'm not a powerrole, i don't get info at night.

Ok fair enough.

But why FB?

[Doctor Drew]

I take offense to that

Post of the game award right here.

[Doctor Drew]

Ok fair enough.

But why FB?

I generally dislike his playstyle of pushing people or points and then reverting to making fun of people who try to have a discussion about it, re 720. This playstyle is not only unhelpful but also helps him avoid getting pressed on most of his points as he just acts sarcastically if pressured, basically removing accountability from his posts. So you might consider this as a kind of policy lim as well, but i do think some of his posts like 700 are just scum mindset regardless.

Do you have experience with FB?

[Doctor Drew]

I know him, and i think we played a few times but i don't have a meta read on him like i would with dats or invis. Why?

I just think you are taking some of his responses a bit too seriously, he is a bit of a shit poster like myself......yes it muddies the water a bit, but that just seems like what FB is going to do.

I did link a game where he was scum, if you do want to compare and contrast.

[Doctor Drew]

If nothing else maybe it'll help us figure out who the viable lim targets are before deadline is a day away

I do actually like this idea, I hope it can help us avoid what happened at the end of D1.

[Doctor Drew]

Kinda worn out from the last couple days, but when I get home I may let the whiskey guide me and make a reads list.

[Doctor Drew]

Avoided the Whskey Pocket, but the cheap beer pocket is kicking in, but will give my reads regardless.

Obv town tier:
Drew
Don

Prob town tier:
Sheep
Bingle
Rat

Ausuka tier:
Ausuka(congrats you get your own tier, feel much better about you know, but still can't shake earlier feelings......you are like maybe town)

Like me when having too much whiskey, could go either way tier:
Invis
FireBringer

Scum tier:
Merlyn
Umlaut
Osuka

[Doctor Drew]

still nursing myself back to relative health after yesterday's mistakes. gonna catch up soon

Plenty of time still left in the day to keep making more mistakes.

i have to say that i'm just really puzzled by doc's read on me. i'm not sure whether that's in bad faith or if he actually just cant read me at all? who's to say

I don't always take the sensible route, and leave people puzzled, but I have one hell of a gut.

[Doctor Drew]

Is Drew even a real doctor?

[Doctor Drew]

My man isn't even a real worm.

Wait what?

[Doctor Drew]

My man isn't even a real worm.

Wait what?

You are out of the Whiskey Pocket

[Doctor Drew]

towwl was really bad, looked like an early chainsaw for Cook, the argument for Invisibility trying to signal scum was one I find unlikely to have been sincere, and then today he seemed real bummed about Meuh, feels almost like he's apologizing for shooting her.

Gonna need you to expand on this, where did I seem bummed about Meuh?

Well, it was cult and not Mafia, but in Grand Idea he lied about having an impossible role, and successfully bullshitted his way out of it when I called him out, in part because "scum would be more careful than that"

So I don't really put anything past him

I will admit, I am at my best as scum(or non town) when my back is up against the wall.

[Doctor Drew]

i just read meryln iso and my god i could def see Meryln/Ausuka as last scum team

Ausuka is giving me town vibes as of late.

Wanna George Bailey Merlyn?

[Doctor Drew]

im actually feeling more strongly about
VOTE: Meryln than ausuka but i think they are the team now.

My heart is in this now

George.....fucking......Bailey

VOTE: Merlyn

[Doctor Drew]

Lol, never would have guessed Meuh was scum from all the wagon hopping at the end of the day

Don't remember your vote reflecting that bit of wisdom my dear doctor

Well I was dealing with a bit of self preservation, admittedly.....but I don't think there was a big wave of support to lim Meuh yesterday, even after I posted the quotes of them vote hopping.

Hindsight and all, but after their flip it did seem pretty obvious in retrospect.

Could it be you're feeling killer's remorse?

I am feeling remorse I didn't push them more at the end of the day, but again..... hindsight.

Pre Edit: Oh no, the Whiskey Pocket is imploding

I'll admit I didn't remember it being prompted by Merlyn, but the thing about it being obvious in hindsight kinda struck me as odd, especially after posturing like you knew it all along.

It was obvious in hindsight the way they vote hopped until a lim happened.

I laid it out in a post a made at end day, just didn't push it enough since I was worried about self preservation.

[Doctor Drew]

it seems like the premise of firebringer's merlyn vote is 90% that she seems teamed with ausuka

and then Doctor Drew He Jack of All Trades piggybacks on the vote while calling ausuka town ??

wolfily lazy

I have been feeling better about Ausuka for a bit.

I don't feel they are buddies, but I do feel Merlyn is scum.

[Doctor Drew]

it seems like the premise of firebringer's merlyn vote is 90% that she seems teamed with ausuka

and then Doctor Drew He Jack of All Trades piggybacks on the vote while calling ausuka town ??

wolfily lazy

I have been feeling better about Ausuka for a bit.

I don't feel they are buddies, but I do feel Merlyn is scum.

[Doctor Drew]

Sorry was busy in the whiskey pocket shooting off my finger, try to be more active shortly

[Doctor Drew]

Sorry was busy in the whiskey pocket shooting off my finger, try to be more active shortly

I hope you finger is okay, despite being scum

Lol, tis but a joke.

But if think I am scum then you need to rethink things.

[Doctor Drew]

VOTE: osuka

You are back in the Whiskey Pocket.

Let's get it!

VOTE: Osuka

(Also, I definitely indulged a bit too much Osuka.....I feel you brother lol)

[Doctor Drew]

seems like an awful lot of work

George BaileY

[Doctor Drew]

Sorry about that, been having a few mental health days, be back in a few hours.

[Doctor Drew]

No one wished me to get better

GEORGE BAILEY

[Doctor Drew]

Wow datisi is lax on everyone else but for me he has the prod timer ready on hours, minutes and seconds

They always pay more attention to scum

I may just be drunk enough tonight to do this damn thing.

[Doctor Drew]

Drew why did your read on me change

I know you said something about my reads list? I'd that elaboratable

Long story shot, the more I soaked you in the more reasonable you seemed. I wasn't getting a scum mentality from you even though we were disagreeing on certain things.

IE, Bingle and Osuka

[Doctor Drew]

VOTE: Umlaut

[Doctor Drew]

Lagavulin is the bees knees.

I'm sorry, were you busy being wrong?

funny story I had a chance to buy a bottle of this at Haneda International Airport for about 50k JPY[~300 USD] - which is a steal because it retails for around $1000 in the States.

I didn't buy it because I didn't want to bring it to China and then bring it back so I thought I could just get it on the way back from China.

It was sold out on my flight back and that is why you miss 100% on the shots you don't take.

Moral of the story? Vote Bingle

I still think your slot is scum Pooky.

But.

This is a more than suitable substitute for Umlaut in the Whiskey Pocket

Glad to have you old friend, but not sure I will be voting Bingle anytime soon.

[Doctor Drew]

can u do me a favor and look at drew iso and tell me if he is town

im biased by his ridiculous avatar

You mean ridiculously awesome.

[Doctor Drew]

drew if you think i'm mafia you should help me yeet Bingle

if the game doesnt end then I will self vote tommorrow and lead my own bandwagon

that would be leading a bandwagon on ur own lose regardless of ur alignment there buddy

[Doctor Drew]

I do not care about this game as much I do about being on a boat with beers rn

I read this as being on a boat with bears. Do not trust bears. They are wild animals and will fuck your day up.

In other news, I'm happy to give Merlyn a day or two to escape the large omnivores threatening her.

I hope our next GeorgeBailey meme is the classic "bear with me" post

https://punpedia.org/bear-puns/

Wow datisi is lax on everyone else but for me he has the prod timer ready on hours, minutes and seconds

The key is to make your prod dodges like four lines long so they don't bother reading it and thus don't realize there's no game content there.

I absolutely have never done this. I would not, could not, with a bear.

Clearly, I am scum with pooky.

Genius solve, clearly just self vote at this point.

[Doctor Drew]

oh shit

Scum claim?

[Doctor Drew]

I am fine voting drew when I get home

I don't want to vote Bingle, but in the interest of keeping town alive another day vs maybe ending it here......I will go with the sure thing and hope Pooky really does have my back.

VOTE: Bingle

[Doctor Drew]

I applaud the effort sheep, if I were scum then I promise I would NK you lol.

I definitely am ok with Merlyn votes, I was like 'oh so Bingle is town as well, great' after her vote.

I do think Pooky could pull this gambit as scum, and I still didn't like Umlaut, so I still don't mind that vote.

Fuck it vote me as well maybe, I don't see how scum can navigate this game and actually win anyways, so eliminate the Drew problem now I guess lol.

Pre Edit: Fire, Rat was suspicious of Sheep as well, and I think someone pointed out, suspicious of Umlaut/Pooky as well. I feel it is a frame job.

[Doctor Drew]

okay

VOTE: Doctor Drew

How do you possibly vote me over Merlyn?

[Doctor Drew]

Hey drew, want to explain ur meryln scumread for the rest of the class.
Ur classmate meryln doesn't want to explain hers on u.

I mean that hammer amirite.

But overall has been the epitome of 'hey I am here' without actually doing anything.

Plus outside of Umlaut/Pooky, I just can't see anyone else.

Maybe sheep? But their effort they put in today would be impressive from scum.

[Doctor Drew]

Wait, this doesn't make sense why Pooky wouldn't hammer.

Starting to really think his promise to Bingle was a scum gambit.

[Doctor Drew]

are you trolling

if i was scum i would 1000% hammer you lolo

Would you?

You were so certain I am scum that you wanted me gone after you 'sacrificed' yourself today.

So....why not hammer who you think, and seemingly feel certain of, is scum when you have the chance.

The pieces aren't all fitting here.

[Doctor Drew]

i still think drew/meryln makes sense and they are just trying to distance each other softly here without pushing each other heavily

Like i would think if either of them were town they would be directly challenging the other on the scum read. Yet they both seem just be like "yeah X is scum" and then inserts a few reasons why. Other doesn't acknoweldge it or care about it.

Like if one of them was town and other is scum i would expect more challenging on the reasons or you know analysis on the reasoning. You are telling me neither is trying to at least analyze the authenticity of the read the other is making on themselves? You don't even need to argue it. I don't see them sorting it.

I have been adamant I have no problem voting Merlyn, but still don't trust Pooky's intentions.

Butt fuck it, let's get real.

VOTE: Merlyn

Pooky, sheep would make the most sense if Rat was killed as a frame job imo.

[Doctor Drew]

I think I may have actually

[Doctor Drew]

those kinds of reaction tests only work on players who are so impulsive they wouldn't bother to check the vote count and meryln probably doesn't fall in that bucket.

You mean the same Merlyin who literally hammered Bingle cause she claimed to not know I was also at e-1?

[Doctor Drew]

I don't believe she didn't know Bingle was at E-1 lol

No, I mean she claimed to not know I was at e-1.......wasn't I at e-1?

[Doctor Drew]

Drew i don't understand ur position on last page of pooky.
I can't fathom u seeing someone not hammer u, and being like "ohh thats a scummy move" or think its sketchy.

If I was scum I would see it as scummy lol, I kinda do think she didn't realize I was at e-1 and/or was definitely more happy to see Bingle yeeted then me.

What don't you understand about my position on Pooky?

[Doctor Drew]

im drunk and i can understand what woofbringer is saying do you need a dictionary buddy

Lol, Georgebailey is the one who needs the assistance here.

[Doctor Drew]

Jesus Pook, I don't get you.....just hammer me.

Though, what is your whiskey of choice tonight?

Pre Edit: Finally

[Doctor Drew]

Jesus Pook, I don't get you.....just hammer me.

Though, what is your whiskey of choice tonight?

Pre Edit: Finally

I polished off an 18y oban

18y? Didn't even know that was a thing.

[Doctor Drew]

drew r u scum dont troll us

So did we win drew or u just gonna wait till datisi tells us

Drew bro were u scum

Hmm?

[Doctor Drew]

Datisi is asleep, flip will happen in the morning.

[Doctor Drew]

im going to assume this is scum drew taking us through some mild trolling.

assuming its game.

gg guys

Alright twist my arm.

It was me and Merlyn.

I am just glad I could fool FB for a bit.....again.

I also learned I hate repping into to scum lol.

[Doctor Drew]

u had me fooled alright.
and i basically led the charge on two town elims.
I should be named third lover.

I welcome this threesome

[Doctor Drew]

yo W i won by almost doing nothing

the best kind of victories

true

i even tried to throw rofl

VOTE: Pooky

[Doctor Drew]

Pooky is cult.

[Doctor Drew]

I wonder what datisi learned about his setup from this test run

I think there needs to be something to balance out exactly what happened N1 here.

Cause it is a super uphill battle for scum at that point.

[Doctor Drew]

tbh i think ur biggest mistake was killing donempire
he was going to tunnel me for all of game and wasn't useful to the town.

Thought about keeping him alive because of that, but kinda had to keep making the obvious kills to keep surviving.

And then they were banned so wouldn't have mattered anyways lol.

Pre Edit: Sheep had miselim equity

[Doctor Drew]

i don't think i was ever voting sheep in any scenario ever in this game lol

You remember when you said that about me in Boons Ahoy?

Nice to have you in my pocket, I could have used this point to argue sheep.

(point is Rat had the best reads and I thought that maybe they would lead a charge on sheep)

Pre Edit: We copped you FB

[Doctor Drew]

i really need to rethink how i initially read you.
my analysis on how u behave as scum is really weak

Repping into the slot I did, I felt I needed to play my Drew town game since I already had suspicion.

If it wasn't for some horrible luck on the NK, we might have pulled it off.

Also, we killed Sky......I died a bit when Bingle said it would be terrible for scum to kill them. Was my call, they seemed so meh and null I couldn't see them as scum.

[Doctor Drew]

lmao I just 1000% assumed meuh was the kill

Everyone did lol

[Doctor Drew]

why would u kill in the nulls......
thats where the likely IC or scum are going to sit.

I literally said as much in scum chat.

But felt Sky wouldn't be like that as scum.

Oops lol

[Doctor Drew]

i should have been on scum team with drew and making the night kills.

FireDrew?

[Doctor Drew]

i should have been on scum team with drew and making the night kills.

FireDrew?

Drewbringer
the bringer of Drews

That sounds like a Grand Idea role

[Doctor Drew]

Both scum teams thinking im the scum is great for advertising

I wanted you as scum so badly.

Oh the signaling we could have had!