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I'm too good for you!Sanjay wrote:Oh, that's a relief.
I'd hate to have to read the first letter of every one of your paragraphs specially to make sure you weren't breadcrumbing a future fake claim.
Muahaha!
Too bad, you're too late!
Of course you're no match for me!
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DeathRowKitty wrote:Vote Bigbearfor voting for the player who caught three scum in two pages!
FoS Peabodyfor questioning the scumhunting master. Obviously you can't be mafia (Sanjay's already caught all of those, but perhaps SK?)
How do you know that's all of them?Sanjay wrote:Pretty pleased with myself for finding all three scum in just two pages.Unvote:
Vote: DeathRowKitty
1/Not OMGUS at all.
2. Speculating role set up already, regarding the SK. Why do you think there is an SK?
3. Why do you question Sanjay about catching all three scum? When a few lines above that, you condemn someone for voting Sanjay, based on the supposed "Fact" that he caught all three scum.
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Vote: Sanjay
How do you know there are three scum?
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If you stated that.... Why are you voting Looker, and not Sanjay?Shrinehme wrote:@DeathRowKitty: Perhaps Sanjay found them so quickly because he knew them from the very beginning, in which case... he is indeed the fourth scum!
Plot twist!
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I'm gonna shoot down that theory of... whose ever it was. I chose to vote no lynch, to generate discussion. Look it worked. I mostly wanted to get out of the RVS. Looks like we made it yay!Looker wrote:Who had the most votes when BigBear decided to go no lynch?
you seem extremely confused, why?Far_Cry wrote: BigBear might me doing this on purpose. It's a possible idea that he is scum that does some things that are SO terrible that people think he's not scum. A possible reverse psychology strategy.
How old do you think I am?Looker wrote:
Nice. I want to vote you, but moreso probably because I don't trust your intelligence than I believe you to be scum.BigBear's [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=1895075#1895075]Post 104[/url] wrote:Unvote:
Vote: Shrinehme
So scummy that i can't be scum? This isn't Zwet-mafia. No, I'm not really implying Wifom. And i don't even understand psychology that much, what makes you think that I know how to perfect reverse psychology?Looker wrote:
Reverse psychology? Are you implying WIFOM? If so...BigBear might me doing this on purpose. It's a possible idea that he is scum that does some things that are SO terrible that people think he's not scum. A possible reverse psychology strategy.
What? To create anarchy and Wifom? No I did not intend that. I don't see how WIFOM at this point in the game really helps the town. However, you kids bringing up that it must be Wifom make me uneasy. Because you're so hasty to bring that thought or idea up. Maybe I truly wanted night to begin. Maybe I wanted to be lynched. Maybe I wanted no lynch. The truth is, long and active day ones are very profitable, and me creating this type of discussion is priceless.Looker wrote: @BigBear: Were these your intentions? WIFOM? Can you refute these allegations?
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I'm not psychic... that was just my take on BigBear's actions. He may have a completely different agenda.Looker wrote:If Far_Cry took the bait, why is BigBear voting for you?
Wut? Is wut a gambit? No gambits yet.Peabody wrote:
Gambit, BigBear?
If I missed a question, please point it out. I think I got it. (everyone from my last game should be used to this-
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I agree in the fact that EC is acting extremely useless (not scum hunting, joking around, and playing stupid). However, I can't wrap my finger on whether that is a scum tell or not.
Shrine writes this to you EC, and you respond with the next post. Is that all? You don't want to defend your case any more? Have you given up?
Aside from those two paragraphs above... no one really commented much on my last post... :/ so there wasn't much for me to rebuttal to... that I could see. I'm satisfied with my vote for the moment.
people to look out for however....
EC - obviously, not acting pro-town. Not really liking him that much. (somewhat a gut read.)
Far_Cry - Somewhat a gut read also. I feel that DRK had a really good post here, regarding the matter.
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why should we lynch a jester? His win condition is being lynched!DeathRowKitty wrote:
That assumes we have a vig, since no mafia team in its right mind would NK a jester. If EC is a jester and claims it LATE IN DAY 1 WHEN IT WON'T HURT THE TOWN, I would prefer if we lynched him. If we don't have a vig, it would mean wasting a non-mafia lynch and probably losing a lot of Day 2 discussion.BB wrote: if there really is a jester, which I doubt, i think they should be either vig'd or night killed.
Nook brought it up (I quoted it a few posts ago ).BB wrote:Bringing up the idea of a jester, is actually scummy, I forget who brought it up, but it's scummy.-
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Well, that, or promoting a mislynch. I've only seen a mention of a jester in one game. And the one that suggested Mastin was a jester, was Mafia Godmother. If Nook flips scum, I would consider it a scumslip then.Shrinehme wrote:
Why?BigBear wrote: Bringing up the idea of a jester, is actually scummy
I mean, there's decent grounds for it. EtherealCookie's play has been extremely outlandish. It initiates sure WIFOM, sure, but I don't see how it would tell scum. If someone hadn't brought it up by now, I would have.
We should note it if EtherealCookie flips Scum though.I could see a one protecting a partner with "What If Jester?"-
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Links please, I'm rather lazy. If your investigative report turns out, that's rather interesting.DeathRowKitty wrote:Interesting state of affairs with FC the past few days:
He replaced out of this game when he was about to be lynched in his newbie game, after which he joined another newbie game. He then joined another newbie game. Net result: -1 game, a result he could have achieved by staying in this game instead of joining a new one. The fact that he chose to join a new one instead of sticking with this onereallydoesn't sit well with me.-
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Guys, I know I have not been posting. I had a rough weekend and should have V/LA'd, but I didn't expect it to be that bad.
However, it's also going to be a long night for me tonight. I have a major paper to rewrite, accounting homework, and to study for a tough psych test. Tomorrow, will most likely be the day that I can get back to some of this.
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Damn CTR+C!!!!!!!!!
I erased everything. Starting from scratch again depresses me. Therefore, I will only do generalizations, where as I won't be directly responding.
Well, I can't find what I had done at the beginning of this post, so if i'm missing anything, please let me know, and be patient.
@ Zazie,
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Mostly to start discussion. I felt as if the RVS was carrying on for quite some time.ZazieR wrote:Post 83 – Why this vote,BigBear? You dodged it when Sanjay asked.
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To give that Chainsaw Defense against me some merit? Mostly to bandwagon for some discussion.ZazieR wrote:Post 104 – Why,Bear?
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Mostly from Mastin.ZazieR wrote:
Not buying this explanation. How did you get the idea to vote yourself?BigBear wrote:
I'm gonna shoot down that theory of... whose ever it was. I chose to vote no lynch, to generate discussion. Look it worked. I mostly wanted to get out of the RVS. Looks like we made it yay!Looker wrote:Who had the most votes when BigBear decided to go no lynch?
I also don’t like this defence:Bear wrote: So scummy that i can't be scum? This isn't Zwet-mafia. No, I'm not really implying Wifom. And i don't even understand psychology that much, what makes you think that I know how to perfect reverse psychology?
As for the second explanation. I can't think off the top of my head for anything else, regarding that defense. I would probably have to go back to the surrounding posts regarding that quote, and even then my explanation would be tainted.
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But isn't Nook scummy? Even in your list back on page....14 was it? Nook came up with the Jester idea, which I think is a great reason to lynch nook. (other than that, your first dash and last ones are basically the same)(other than that, i would say your spot on).ZazieR wrote:
-The observing, while not discussing.Sanjay wrote:Zazie, could you expound a bit on why you voted for brothernature?
-Talking when being called out.
-Vote against Nook.
-Dodging my questions.
-The observations regarding EC
-And the general active lurking when posting.
Reading through, I don't like this post at all of Confids. How do you know he wasn't implying town?
-I think that DRK is just frustrated.
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No, I am not at the moment.Looker wrote: @BigBear & IdiotKing: Are you still happy with your current position on the Cookie wagon?
Why I think you are wrong Confid.
1. Nook started the Jester discussion. Because he brought up the idea of a Jester. Easy as that.
2. I sure as hell, would have commented on that, and probably placed a vote on Nook specifically for the Jester comment (wonder why I haven't yet... )
3. Calling DRK out because he commented on it, is BS. Because someone was destined to comment on it as well.
4. If I had been the first one to comment on it, would you have called me out so quickly?
Wait... really... you started this argument against DRK with nothing solid. GG.ConfidAnon wrote:My, you really enjoy making a mountain out of a mole hill, don't you?
Unfortunately BN's play here remotely matches that Newbie game half of us were in. However, I remember him mentioning somewhere, that he likes active games. Maybe this isn't fast enough for him? Although I doubt that.
But, I'm on the fence between two people, BN, and Confid. Getting serious scum vibes from Confid, but BN's play is extremely sad.
I'm going to wait until a vote count, to vote.
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Zaz, why should I have to start discussion about voting no lynch, or voting for myself? Shouldn't it be other players that question me? And not myself? We shouldn't really be having this conversation now. It should have been in RVS. It's all about looking for over reactions.ZazieR wrote:
Yet, you never discussed about your No Lynch vote yourself. Eventhough you state you wanted to start discussion. And instead, you changed your vote. How come?Bear wrote:Mostly to start discussion. I felt as if the RVS was carrying on for quite some time.
How serious is the question? Also, didn't you call Sanjay a bandwagoning monster? So how come you bandwagoned here?Bear wrote:To give that Chainsaw Defense against me some merit? Mostly to bandwagon for some discussion.
It also makes your EC vote look bad, as EC actually had a reason for suspecting Shrine.
Not Mastin ._.Bear wrote:Mostly from Mastin.
In all the times he did it, I don't think it has worked. At least, not in my games with him.
And please look at the post that had the defence in it that I don't like.
The VC was a few posts up. How come you missed it?Bear wrote:I'm going to wait until a vote count, to vote.
Why did I bandwagon onto Shrine? Aside from putting pressure, it was also to discredit that "chainsaw defense" argument against whoever (me I think). They thought I voted no lynch to distract from some one's lynch, It might have even been shrines. I can't remember, and can't really be arsed to find it.
I was voting EC because it looked like he was a twelve year old kid on crack.
Mastin is an inspiration. Where did that Kid go?
I must have just overlooked the Vote Count. I don't know why I requested it.
I would just say, that in his first game, he quit when he was town. I'm not saying that makes him.ZazieR wrote:Wait, are there really players saying that BN fits his town meta by basing it upon activity?
He revealed an alt, in a game that's on going.ZazieR wrote:
I don't understand this postBigBear wrote:[piggybacking]
Especially in an on going game :/
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I guess I still don't understand, and for that I apologize. But, are you blaming me (in a sense) because no one really commented on my vote for a no lynch? If people would have pressured me, or asked about it, i think I would have responded. But maybe your asking why I didn't keep my "no lynch" status up for a little bit longer? I don't know, it's not like I really wanted a no lynch, at this point in the game it would only give weak night information. But seriously, what am I supposed to do, put pressure on myself?ZazieR wrote:
I was more talking about keeping the discussion up. Instead, you didn't do a thing with the discussion regarding your No Lynch vote (Except for one post where you state you agree with one of DRK's posts, but you never pushed it further). How come?Bear wrote:Zaz, why should I have to start discussion about voting no lynch, or voting for myself? Shouldn't it be other players that question me? And not myself? We shouldn't really be having this conversation now. It should have been in RVS. It's all about looking for over reactions.
Whoever it was that brought up the idea of the chainsaw defense, said that it occurred when shrine was bandwagoned, and I voted no lynch to try and "distract" from shrines lynch, I believe. correct me if i'm wrong there. But that really isn't a chainsaw defense, was it? Also, what should have been called out, as extremely suspicious was me voting ShrineZazieR wrote:
I don't see how it should 'prove' you two aren't scum together.Bear wrote:Why did I bandwagon onto Shrine? Aside from putting pressure, it was also to discredit that "chainsaw defense" argument against whoever (me I think). They thought I voted no lynch to distract from some one's lynch, It might have even been shrines. I can't remember, and can't really be arsed to find it.
Also, as said earlier, it makes me dislike your vote against EC more.afterthe weak CSD. If that happened to someone else, I would have called them out hardcore. Because i could see that as scum accepting his partners death. So yea, I don't really know why no one called me out on that. Perhaps someone on the Shrine wagon is scum, and didn't care, just wanted more votes. That would make sense why they didn't call me out.
I know you must be tired of this, but no, I didn't really see him as scum, mostly just putting pressure on him.ZazieR wrote:
So you didn't think he was acting like scum?Bear wrote:I was voting EC because it looked like he was a twelve year old kid on crack.
Not an inspiration. He is fun to play with.Bear wrote:Mastin is an inspiration. Where did that Kid go?
Has less time than before (Also dropped out of my game, while I replaced in a 60+ game to get him to replace into my game )[/quote]
They have 60+ player games on this site? Sick nasty! I should never play in that though. I take it that he will make a come back next summer?-
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The only thing that I can think of, was either me being lazy, or just overlooking it. Since only one(or two) person(s) really commented on it. the best explanation is that I probably overlooked it.ZazieR wrote:
What I'm asking is why you didn't enter the discussion about your self-vote.
You voted yourself --> FC voted you for that --> Players discussed FC's vote --> Bear does other stuff --> Bear finally states that he agrees with a post from DRK about FC.
Other than that post from DRK, you don't mention the discussion that your self-vote caused at all. And you never push the thing you did comment on. I'm interested in hearing why.
I think they just thought it was a CSD because I was trying to distract from Shrines lynch. (what did you need to look at?) I don't remember if I was actually trying to prove that we weren't scum together, because no matter what I do, someone could twist my actions into saying that we are a scum pair, that it was bussing or something. So either way, i probably should have been burned at the steak for that.ZazieR wrote:
Well, I actually asked how your vote against Shrine should have proved your not scum together. So it's strange that you now state that it would have been a reinforcing move for the assumption from Looker about you and Shrine.
But after reading this, I need to look at something.
(And yeah, it's not a chainsaw defense. That's when you're attacking/voting a player who's attacking/voting your buddy.)
Would you believe, to see how he would react?ZazieR wrote:
What did you wish to gain from this pressure on EC?Bear wrote:I know you must be tired of this, but no, I didn't really see him as scum, mostly just putting pressure on him.
oh balls thats still big. I kinda like replacing into games, but i also enjoy starting games.ZazieR wrote:
As far as I know, they don't have 60+ player games. The most I know of is 56. I meant 60+ pages. (Also, it had Mastin in that game with Mastin-posts)
And I don't know when he gets back.
Two questions for you zaz...
1. who do you think is scum, aside from Brother nature
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I guess I just don't know how I feel about that though. That seems to fit with his play style. (aside from the vote about nook, and the obsv regarding EC.) He was rather scummy in the last game too, and we should have lynched him for some of the same stuff that's listed here.ZazieR wrote:
He replaced BN. So the case from me against him is the same as the case from me against BN, which was:BigBear wrote:wait... what's the case on DJ at the moment?ZazieR wrote:
-The observing, while not discussing.Sanjay wrote:Zazie, could you expound a bit on why you voted for brothernature?
-Talking when being called out.
-Vote against Nook.
-Dodging my questions.
-The observations regarding EC
-And the general active lurking when posting.
Deadline is still 10 days away, why don't we hold off for the moment, and look else where.
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I don't recall him clarifying that he was specifically talking about jesters, I just remember Confid and DRK fighting for several pages to find out who actually started it. I didn't really think that DRK was implying it at the time, although, if he was, then yea, it's obviously scummy. Why I figured that Nook really brought up the jester speculation, is because his remarks didn't seem to connect (at least at first glance), or didn't seem to come from directly from DRK's comment.Knight of Cydonia wrote:Uhm, correct me if I'm wrong, BigBear, and this is just what I got from my readthrough, but... didn't DRK start the Jester speculation? Because from what I read, DRK made a comment alluding to 3rd parties, then later clarified he was thinking of Jesters when making that comment. So... uhm... explain?
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ConfidAnon wrote:
BandwagonBigBear, 486 wrote:You're right. I should Unvote: Vote: ConfidAnon, But I was also in the not voting category....
Also, do you mean that I'm not asking questions? and that is why I am scummy?FoS
-I was the third vote on you, why are you/were you so worried?
-Bandwagons are quite normal.
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Why do you think I am scum?Looker wrote:
If this is true, vote BigBear, you'll have more of a chance for a lynch than being the only one on KoC.Sanjay's [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=1955855#1955855]Post 839[/url] wrote:By the way, if I haven't said this already, I am going to join Team Vote Practically Anywhere To Keep DRK From Being Lynched.
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Same question, Why am I scummy. And on top of that, if you already have an idea of where your vote may be going, why wait?DeathRowKitty wrote: Based on number of votes, scumminess, and potential to gain more votes, my vote would likely go to either BB or DJ if I had to choose now (DJ being my preference).-
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archaebob wrote: All I know right now is that I strongly disagree with lynching DRK. In general, the whole DRK vs. CA thing reeks of town on town. I'd have been willing to lynch brothernature on policy, but he's been replaced with someone who's at least trying to be active, and I haven't seen anything that's actually scummy from him.
How so? When DRK did hint at jester speculation?
@ SanjayThe top three wagons, you don't find any of them scummy, why do you find KoC scummy? What has he done?-
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This post gets a gut "do not like." - AB.
...Because you brought up the speculation of a jester...... do you not recall...??DeathRowKitty wrote:
How does any of that apply to this situation?BC...i mean BB wrote:KoC wrote: Bringing up a Jester = steering the town away from looking for scum, onto finding a hypothetical Jester that may not exist.
Bringing up a Jester = creating unnecessary speculation. This is the internet, we all mistrust each other enough as it is. Jester speculation begins all kinds of "should we really lynch him, he might WANT to be lynched" WIFOM.
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Links to those games?Furry wrote:
Formation of wagons is quite a big one. Most of the people I have had anti-town reads on are attacking DKR. DRK has been on wagons of people that I have anti-town reads on. I know thinking the same things are not completely indicative of alignment, but I trust my reads enough.ConfidAnon wrote:Furry- Sorry if I missed it earlier, but did you ever explain your town read on DRK?
Also I think the jester thing is a really bad thing to make a wagon on. Jester speculation is stupid, not scummy. Trying to make it scummy and actually basing an entire case off anything jester related, is far more scummy.
So wagons + other reads + case on DRK = town to me, and I am willing to vote most anyone but DRK to stop that lynch
Last time Jester speculation was brought up in a game I played, the dude that did it was lynched, he flipped mafia godfather. That's one of the reasons why it's at least a policy vote for me.
I like this post by DJ.
Getting scum vibes from Raskol based on this post. Feels like fence sitting. Like he needs the details of both wagons so he can vote on one accordingly. He does this (IMO) so he doesn't actually have to come up with a case.
-Sanjay, why are you asking for town reads? (from a specific player?)
-Noted the good response by looker.
The only reason why you think CA is scummy is because you were arguing with him for 10 pages.DeathRowKitty wrote:I still think CA is scummier. DJ is definitely second scummiest in my mind, but I don't plan on moving my vote unless I know the CA lynch isn't going to happen. If deadline comes closer and it has to be either DJ or [insert any name besides CA], I wouldn't hesitate to vote for him.
Can you explain why you think CA is town?
WTF dude? This is another gut activated post.
Gut again. (Raskol)
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This feels OMIGUSy.Raskol wrote:I'm looking for scum on the DRK wagon (most probable place for them to be at the moment) and Furry's not on the DRK wagon. Furry's given cases even before being asked. Furry's defended an easy lynch.
All of these things make Furry, in my eyes, less likely to be scum than either KoC or BigBear.
Between KoC and BigBear I prefer lynching BigBear as he will leave the most connections behind and has been individually scummier on top of that, whereas my main point against KoC is his position on the wagon and his pushing of a weak anti-town-tell (jester spec) as sole reason for that vote. BigBear's got both of those plus extra.
Anyway,unvote
Vote: BigBear
I'm willing to compromise and go to KoC if necessary, with ZazieR remaining a viable choice if neither of those are workable (but would still prefer replacement instead---it's been over 8 days now and I think we're due for one!).
Zazie is an excellent player, and i think losing him would be bad.
So.... I'm not scum, but i've been given a mafia role?Looker wrote:BigBear's [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=1955868#1955868]Post 842[/url] wrote:
Why do you think I am scum?Looker wrote:
If this is true, vote BigBear, you'll have more of a chance for a lynch than being the only one on KoC.Sanjay's [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=1955855#1955855]Post 839[/url] wrote:By the way, if I haven't said this already, I am going to join Team Vote Practically Anywhere To Keep DRK From Being Lynched.
I have absolutely no respect for the reasons of half the people on that wagon.I don't think you're scum,I think you're far from it and one of our more intelligent players; however, Idobelieveyou to have been assigned a Mafia role within this online gamethat we're playing with one another. This is simply due to the fact that I fail to see the point of any scrutiny regarding the Jester Debates. I'm not saying that this is concrete; however, I'm simply trying to make this a win-win situation. If DRK comes up Mafia, then hurrah, you're a hero to me, BigBear; however, if he comes up Town, I find you slightly more suspicious than the rest. It's a matter of balance and trying to keep said balance by preparing for all possibilities.
Besides, I told you from the beginning that I distrusted how intelligent you were. The smart ones are always the bad guys so there you have it.-
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Vote: DeathRowKitty
Post 1000, you said that you didn't like lynching claimed power roles day 1.
--Then a little bit later you "Fix" his quote.
Why did you presume, or at least act like you knew he was fake claiming? I'm going to have to do a reread, because it's been at least a week since this thread has been in my head, but weren't you under a lot of pressure? This seems like you bussed DJ, IMO.
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FixedDJ wrote: last time i fakeclaim cop.
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I am so sorry, I have been in a total of 13 hours of meetings in the past two days;NOT including classes, in regards of a fraternity that is in serious needs. I will do my best to get a post up shortly, however that does not guarantee when it will occur.DeathRowKitty wrote:@BB and KoC
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Yea, your right, I didn't really like those answers.DeathRowKitty wrote:
As for why I acted like I knew he was fake claiming, it's a two-part answer and you won't like either part.BB wrote:uot;]Why did you presume, or at least act like you knew he was fake claiming? I'm going to have to do a reread, because it's been at least a week since this thread has been in my head, but weren't you under a lot of pressure? This seems like you bussed DJ, IMO.- I wanted to avoid suspicion for my vote. If I sounded wishy-washy about it and decided to vote him anyway, it would look very suspicious. Avoiding suspicion is (IMO) a townie's second or third most important duty (if no townies are suspicious enough tor mislynch (and assuming there's never a no lynch), you can't lose).
- One of my main reasons for voting him was the fact that CA was probably cop. I was hoping to draw some of the cop suspicion onto myself by sounding overly confident.
I disagree. That doesn't make him obv town. Just because you haven't seen two scum wagons near lynch doesn't meant that it's not possible. Actually, I think that it happened near the end of my first newbie game. It's possible. That's all.Furry wrote:vote raskol
DRK wagon is very stupid now, he is obv-town. Like really obv-town. I had CA-DJ mixed up yesterday, but this one was right. DJ was pushing hard on DRK, DJ was happy letting DRK drift to a deadline lynch, DRK backed a DJ wagon over KoC, CA and Zazie wagons late D1. There is no way DRK is going to be scum.
If you want you can also look at the fact that late in D1 the two competing wagons were DRK and DJ since CA seemed to be slipping into the darkness. I dont think that I have ever seen scum let the top two wagons both be scum with no hard pushes on any other wagons. DRK scum would mean that scum were kicking back and letting scum get lynched when there were options (about half the game had a wagon). Again this just is not happening. I would almost bet the game on DRK-town at this point.
Case on sanjay? PleaseLooker wrote:Mafia of this game
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I'm just sayin'
I think you're overreacting slightly to that remark Sanjay. And I don't like it. If we were scum-partners you and I, why would you point out that I was using a chainsaw defense? So the question is, why are you concerned with me "attacking your attacker?"And when did I really "Go after her?" Did I vote looker?Sanjay wrote:Vote: BigBear
I've really been going ??? about post 1023.
Looker makes a perfectly normal post about how she wasn't planning on reading anything into the lack of her being nightkilled, and BigBear goes all "maybe you are scum, Looker", which seems like a sort of chainsaw defense of me.
Which is weird. You don't chainsaw defend the people you should be suspicious of. And BigBear more than anyone should be suspicious of me. I started up a bandwagon on him moving pressure away from known scum. And somehow, when Looker is like "Yeah, vote Sanjay" BigBear goes after her?
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This too.Furry wrote: Also im really confused over the fact that you are almost calling him suspicious because he isnt suspicious of you.
Are you expecting me to vote you or something?Sanjay wrote:I am calling him suspicious because he isn't suspicious of me.
This smells of baiting.
I guess I might as well say something Sanjay, - Are you really open to any wagon other than yours?
In which way?eleven knives in a throat wrote:Hi I'm replacing Raskol. (And I'm not answering for anything he said. I stopped reading what he said because it wastorturous.)
I don't like the way that Achebob wanted to essentially speed lynch Zazie.... putting us to night really fast...hmm...
I don't like this. Not all OMIGUS.havingfitz wrote:I don’t think I’ll ever finish reading or referring back in this game so I will just jump in (after staring at the water for the last week).
The only two things I can be sure of at this moment are that don_johnson is scum and ConfidAnon is town. I know...impressive analysis.
Looking over their ISO...and in the interest of getting involved...I get a town read from DRK and am happy to steer clear of him at the moment (subject to change of course). dj was all over DRK on D1 and while he (dj) could have just been bussing his arse off...I am inclined to think not. I also got a gut feel during dj’s ISO that Bigbear was scum.
I see the DRK CA jester debate as town on town. I doubt DRK would debate so long on CA...then go for a NK on CA. Other people I’m looking at are Furry and zazie. I remain suspicious of everyone. I’m holding off on my vote for now consider it pointing towards BB.
All you know is that DJ is scum and CA is town... Good Job at reading the Deathlist! Why wouldn't DJ be bussing DRK? It seemed likely that he would have been lynched, therefore DJ would want DRK as far away from him as possible. This goes very well with my initial posts at the beginning of day two where I am asking DRK whyknewDJ was fake claiming. So when you say that DRK is obv town, I don't like it. And how "was" I scum? Evidence?
I thought I did clarify my posts on why I disliked DRK's vote.Sanjay wrote:That's not really the case I was asking for, Looker. I knew and I presume everyone else knew you were voting me for those reasons.
I'm going back to doing this:Vote BigBear
BigBear, I'd like you to comment on my day one post against you and the reasons I stated for voting for you day one.
Also, if you could comment on what you thought about DRK's posts so far as justifying his late joining of the DJ wagon, that would be solid.
Anyways. Looking over that post that you just gave me there Sanjay, I don't really have much to answer for because it felt that most of those questions were just comments and not actually questions.
I feel that post you linked above is very scummy actually. You used a few posts of mine that were very early in the game, some of which were still during the RVS time. Why did it take you so long to bring these questions up? Why did you wait until the last moment to bring up a case on me?
Drum-roll please, I need some anticipation for my vote!
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