Mini Normal 2329: complex. [game over!]

[Random Nurse]

I wonder what kind of heat Scum's packing this game.

[Random Nurse]

I wonder what kind of heat Scum's packing this game.

I'm surprised there's an IC in this game, so Scum is probably packing heat?

VOTE: KeyLaga

Afrayed Knott

Random Nurse

,

Mafia Goon

, executed Day 3

VOTE: Random Nurse

That's

your reasoning for voting me this game?

[Random Nurse]

That's

your reasoning for voting me this game?

well, the history + I don't see a town motivation for posting that thought

Maybe you have a vision problem.

Maybe you don't understand why I'm asking.

Maybe you're trying to figure out what my role is this game, not my alignment.

[Random Nurse]

I wonder what kind of heat Scum's packing this game.

I'm surprised there's an IC in this game, so Scum is probably packing heat?

VOTE: KeyLaga

Afrayed Knott

Random Nurse

,

Mafia Goon

, executed Day 3

VOTE: Random Nurse

That's

your reasoning for voting me this game?

Wouldn't you rather have some sort of reasoning behind the vote instead of just randomly voting Psyche for no reason?

Who does that?

I haven't voted for anyone this game.

[Random Nurse]

I wonder what kind of heat Scum's packing this game.

I'm surprised there's an IC in this game, so Scum is probably packing heat?

VOTE: KeyLaga

Afrayed Knott

Random Nurse

,

Mafia Goon

, executed Day 3

VOTE: Random Nurse

That's

your reasoning for voting me this game?

Wouldn't you rather have some sort of reasoning behind the vote instead of just randomly voting Psyche for no reason?

Who does that?

I haven't voted for anyone this game.

I was talking about Dann's vote on you vs my vote on Psyche.

Would you prefer more rvs shit posting instead of votes with reasoning behind it?

I'm saying he's reaching, and I'm not sure if it comes from paranoid-Town or something else. I don't necessarily Scumread Dann for pulling that out of the butt, but I'll be monitoring what else is said. As for my past Scum post I don't even remember that post, and as Dann will realize post-game coincidences do exist.

[Random Nurse]

1) I'm hampered by work, so don't do anything while I'm AFK.

2) Quickhammering loses games. Don't do anything stupid before a response can be given.

[Random Nurse]

At the moment I very slightly Townread Dann due to that one paranoid post.

Unsure about the other clowns yet.

The nurse abides.

[Random Nurse]

2) Quickhammering loses games. Don't do anything stupid before a response can be given.

Haha it didn't lose last game

And that one was a fluke. If it that quickhammer hit Town instead it'd be not good.

Point is, more often than not quickhammers hit Town.

[Random Nurse]

So Psyche is basically an IC
I think Random Nurse is town as well

That's an odd phrasing of words.

Also, what makes you think I'm Town?

[Random Nurse]

Help me yeet Hu and you will become solid town, nurse

Sell me on Hu-Hu first thanks.

[Random Nurse]

So Psyche is basically an IC
I think Random Nurse is town as well

That's an odd phrasing of words.

Also, what makes you think I'm Town?

I think you care about things that town would care about and don't care about things that scum would care about

...

And where'd you get that from?

[Random Nurse]

*sigh*

2 more to launch, eh?

[Random Nurse]

For what it's worth, the Townies who joined my wagon weren't that wise. With the busy part of my shift coming up I don't really trust you to not do something completely stupid, like a quickhammer. It's already been sent.

[Random Nurse]

Random what do u think about Hu joining your wagon? I kinda feel sus about that

Felt equal parts sus and stupid, and perhaps a sprinkle of vindictiveness.

What, you don't have anything to say in response to my previous post?

[Random Nurse]

Random what do u think about Hu joining your wagon? I kinda feel sus about that

Your silence here perplexes me Naerys.

Where'd you go?

[Random Nurse]

You were already obvtown that was unnecessary

Fucking bullshit.

These morons already had me to L-5 for NOTHING.

[Random Nurse]

So yeah, I AM pissed, and since I can't describe people accurately then yeah I'll insult their play.

Putting me to L-5 by page 4 with NO FUCKING REASON is BS. I can't trust any of you to use your brains. I could log in and be already hammered, because that's how some people operate. So yeah, I'm going to activate my IC ability because I can't trust people to play intelligently. All I got was snark and stupidity earlier so why risk it?

[Random Nurse]

So yeah, I AM pissed, and since I can't describe people accurately then yeah I'll insult their play.

Putting me to L-5 by page 4 with NO FUCKING REASON is BS. I can't trust any of you to use your brains. I could log in and be already hammered, because that's how some people operate. So yeah, I'm going to activate my IC ability because I can't trust people to play intelligently. All I got was snark and stupidity earlier so why risk it?

Also RN next time get this upset when it happens to someone else. So basically me last game.

I did not want you hammered. Mine was a pressure vote: the other players ensured you were hammered.

I can vote for you but NOT want you eliminated right then. Does that make sense?

[Random Nurse]

I'll be poking my head in later after 11 PM. Doing another 16 so can barely find time to post.

[Random Nurse]

I do feel there's at least one Scum between Hu and Naerys, FWIW.

[Random Nurse]

Probably 2 Scum on my wagon. Could be just 1. Assuming there's 3 I'm thinking for sure 1 maybe 2 were off my wagon.

[Random Nurse]

do you really think RN was close to being limmed?
ugh i guess some people did

Yeah.

I just finished a game where someone was limmed on page 3.

It's more common than you think.

[Random Nurse]

Who's open to limming Naerys or Hu today?

[Random Nurse]

Do we have an unofficial vote count?

[Random Nurse]

If Hu goes to L-1 I'll hammer.

[Random Nurse]

Although I'm having second-thoughts...

[Random Nurse]

Kay, how many games have you had on this site?

[Random Nurse]

...

Alright.

[Random Nurse]

The thing is Hu Tao you're expressing a massive amount of confidence in the Naerys scumread
but you also say you scumread NotAScum more than her and I think your NotAScum scumread is kinda poor
It gives me low confidence in your supposedly strong Naerys scumread

PEdit: stop

I'd say now I scumread Naerys more. I do think NAS is still scummy. But I'm waiting for his reply

Which of those two do you Scumread more and why?

[Random Nurse]

Given this unique opportunity as an IC I could go Super Saiyan in terms of aggressive intensity since I’m cleared. But I’m also tired. Might provide some insight tonight. Might set things on fire too.

[Random Nurse]

Please post the exact contradictions.

Might set me off digging there.

[Random Nurse]

You know, I sense Naerys hasn’t really been taking my posts seriously, for example: responding.

So what does that mean? Ignoring me only makes it much, MUCH worse. If she’s Scum is she avoiding trying to get entangled by my feelers?

…

[Random Nurse]

It’d be hilarious if Naerys and Hu were engaged in distancing.

…

Hilarious indeed.

[Random Nurse]

You know, I sense Naerys hasn’t really been taking my posts seriously, for example: responding.

So what does that mean? Ignoring me only makes it much, MUCH worse. If she’s Scum is she avoiding trying to get entangled by my feelers?

…

to what i didnt respond?

Go look through my posts and show me exactly what you didn’t respond to.

[Random Nurse]

…

[Random Nurse]

I also think I'm more weary of scum being off that wagon. Scum knew RN was town so they probably soft defended to gain townie points

No, scum wants as many town PRs to oust as possible. Thats why i am pretty sure atleast 1 scum, maybe 2 scums were on Nurse.

…before post 75, in what, did I post, give anyone the inclination I was a PR?

[Random Nurse]

…

…is it just me, or does it feel in the very early game that Naerys and Klick were both placative, supportive, and a touch manipulative?

If you’re Scum choose your next words very carefully.

[Random Nurse]

You know, I sense Naerys hasn’t really been taking my posts seriously, for example: responding.

So what does that mean? Ignoring me only makes it much, MUCH worse. If she’s Scum is she avoiding trying to get entangled by my feelers?

…

to what i didnt respond?

Go look through my posts and show me exactly what you didn’t respond to.

No, i wont.

*licks fangs*

[Random Nurse]

…before post 75, in what, did I post, give anyone the inclination I was a PR?

No.

I need you to answer this question, please.

[Random Nurse]

Mafia is a game that necessitates both being supportive and manipulative to some degree

'Placative' is more of a personal playstyle thing for me that I've picked up over years of experience, because if I don't do that then I instead waste loads of time on arguments that don't help and don't need to happen

Perhaps that style works against you upon approaching me.

In my experience it’s always Scum trying to get through my defenses and posing as support. I’ve been in enough games to bet the argumentative ones flailing against me are typically Town.

[Random Nurse]

And don’t get quiet on me now, Hu. I know you’re still here.

[Random Nurse]

…before post 75, in what, did I post, give anyone the inclination I was a PR?

No.

I need you to answer this question, please.

"no" as "no you didnt"

…

OK, then why did you mention Scum wanting to oust as many Town PRs as possible—referring to my moronic wagon—when there was no whisper or riddle of me being one?

[Random Nurse]

It’d be hilarious if Naerys and Hu were engaged in distancing.

…

Hilarious indeed.

Not sure how serious this comment was but I highly doubt this, solely because Hu was very close to being eliminated with the last thing they were pushing was voting Naerys out. Unless the plan was to clear naerys the rest of the game. I still just don’t see that as a good day 1 plan, but I don’t have much to go off of in terms of past game experience so I can’t say with any conviction that it couldn’t or wouldn’t happen.

Hu is very capable as Scum. I’m assuming you don’t know her like I do (10+ alts included). She once counter-claimed a Cop with a claimed guilty on her and got his ass launched.

[Random Nurse]

Mafia is a game that necessitates both being supportive and manipulative to some degree

'Placative' is more of a personal playstyle thing for me that I've picked up over years of experience, because if I don't do that then I instead waste loads of time on arguments that don't help and don't need to happen

Perhaps that style works against you upon approaching me.

In my experience it’s always Scum trying to get through my defenses and posing as support. I’ve been in enough games to bet the argumentative ones flailing against me are typically Town.

I view being town in Mafia as primarily about understanding. People are going to do what they do. What matters is finding the truth of the puzzle and making enough of it clear to enough people in enough time. That's often going to require some trust, but also some amount of deception/obscurity.

I've got my own modus operandi, others do as well. I'm willing to work to help others' methods if I trust them and think it will help without disrupting my own methods.

That sounds very reasonable. As Scum I can use sheer reason to win. My paranoia has me alert when another is all-too-calm and reasonable.

I’m not sure what to make of you yet. Too bad I only have Today.

[Random Nurse]

It's specifically because Hu is strong as scum that I doubt she's scum here

And what is your explicit reasoning behind this?

[Random Nurse]

I’m not sure I hear those fingers typing, Naerys.

[Random Nurse]

@NotAScum, I’d like your input on the last two pages regarding my interactions, please.

[Random Nurse]

Geraintm, are you usually this cagey?

[Random Nurse]

Klick where do you sit currently on Hu?

TL, T, N, SL, S?

[Random Nurse]

And don’t get quiet on me now, Hu. I know you’re still here.

I wasn't but I am now

…with nothing to say, eh?

[Random Nurse]

It’d be hilarious if Naerys and Hu were engaged in distancing.

…

Hilarious indeed.

Not sure how serious this comment was but I highly doubt this, solely because Hu was very close to being eliminated with the last thing they were pushing was voting Naerys out. Unless the plan was to clear naerys the rest of the game. I still just don’t see that as a good day 1 plan, but I don’t have much to go off of in terms of past game experience so I can’t say with any conviction that it couldn’t or wouldn’t happen.

Hu is very capable as Scum. I’m assuming you don’t know her like I do (10+ alts included). She once counter-claimed a Cop with a claimed guilty on her and got his ass launched.

What are your alts?

You know I’m not going to share that.

[Random Nurse]

I think i’d rather not kill hu tao or naerys today

Ha ha ha, now we’re talking.

[Random Nurse]

Klick where do you sit currently on Hu?

TL, T, N, SL, S?

Strongest townread that isn't you

OK, walk me through going from voting her to her basically being your strongest Townread?

[Random Nurse]

Oh look, two totally not suspicious votes for geraintm in quick succession.

[Random Nurse]

I'm leaning towards launching Naerys.

Which wafflers refuse to vote her?

[Random Nurse]

Well, there's one.

[Random Nurse]

Doctor Drew what do you think about voting either Naerys or Hu?

[Random Nurse]

…before post 75, in what, did I post, give anyone the inclination I was a PR?

No.

I need you to answer this question, please.

"no" as "no you didnt"

…

OK, then why did you mention Scum wanting to oust as many Town PRs as possible—referring to my moronic wagon—when there was no whisper or riddle of me being one?

I’m not sure I hear those fingers typing, Naerys.

VOTE: Naerys

[Random Nurse]

Dave's doing that Dave thing where he phases in and out of existence and presence.

[Random Nurse]

but someone clinging to the mafia wiki for dear life took the exact opposite message home?
it does not pass the smell test

I think I mentioned before that HT jumping on RN wagon looked opportunistic. Couple that with that self-vote, it looks really scummy.

hi

Did you see my post directed towards you?

[Random Nurse]

*watches specific players actively shift attention away from Naerys*

[Random Nurse]

*watches specific players actively shift attention away from Naerys*

Being IC doesn't give you a crystal ball. I'd be more suspicious of people who explicitly sheep.

I don't recall saying I had one.

Do you recall me saying I had one?

[Random Nurse]

*watches specific players actively shift attention away from Naerys*

Being IC doesn't give you a crystal ball. I'd be more suspicious of people who explicitly sheep.

I don't recall saying I had one.

Do you recall me saying I had one?

Your attitude says you think you do. You don't have to use the words.

Oh, OH, I CAN PLAY TOO!

See, I'm mentioning how players are shifting their attention away from Naerys. While I suspect Naerys is Scum especially based on her reaction that in no way means I think I have a crystal ball and know the future. It just means I'm watching how players react while I state my view on Naerys, and it also piques my interest why you would say that when it makes zero sense. If I KNEW who was who I wouldn't be trying to suss out multiple people at once, Dave.

[Random Nurse]

Were launching Naerys today.

I want to see some consolidation in these random failwagons, people.

[Random Nurse]

*watches specific players actively shift attention away from Naerys*

Oh hi you're still evading my other post.

[Random Nurse]

YEET!

[Random Nurse]

Could it be Naerys, Psyche, Klick?

*makes measuring gestures with hands*

[Random Nurse]

I worry that the minute I give my opinion on my gut feeling on a few I am strongly feeling are town, I’m going to get responses that say “oh I’ve played with them before, they do this as scum” “don’t pay attention to that” etc etc. I feel like I’m the only one that can’t offer any meta and therefore I’ll never have the full picture that others seem to have. It’s slightly alienating but I’m trying to keep up.

Like Psyche said, that kind of information is probably good for you to get anyway. It's also nice to have a perspective removed from meta.

Most people also have far less real meta knowledge than you'd think

Sometimes meta is absolutely valid, but it really depends.

[Random Nurse]

*watches specific players actively shift attention away from Naerys*

Being IC doesn't give you a crystal ball. I'd be more suspicious of people who explicitly sheep.

I don't recall saying I had one.

Do you recall me saying I had one?

Your attitude says you think you do. You don't have to use the words.

Oh, OH, I CAN PLAY TOO!

See, I'm mentioning how players are shifting their attention away from Naerys. While I suspect Naerys is Scum especially based on her reaction that in no way means I think I have a crystal ball and know the future. It just means I'm watching how players react while I state my view on Naerys, and it also piques my interest why you would say that when it makes zero sense. If I KNEW who was who I wouldn't be trying to suss out multiple people at once, Dave.

546 is specifically about how the *'s in your post annoys me.

wat

You mean the asterisks?

What do boomers have against asterisks?

[Random Nurse]

Could it be Naerys, Psyche, Klick?

*makes measuring gestures with hands*

what is wrong with the notascum wagon to you?

I mean the guy only posted FIVE times what you mean?

[Random Nurse]

OK OK OK stop, why do you want focus shifted over onto NAS who has five posts?

We've got Naerys contradicting herself and refusing to respond to basic questions and you want me to focus on some random with five posts instead?

Please, OH PLEASE, tell me where the sauce is?

[Random Nurse]

only posting 5 times is not a town tell

And you had better have something of substance within those five dank posts that outweighs all the shady shenanigans coming out of Naerys today.

[Random Nurse]

OK OK OK stop, why do you want focus shifted over onto NAS who has five posts?

because NAS is scum. i'll quote why if you want!

OH, OKAY.

Sell me on those 5 posts.

My patience is SO READY.

[Random Nurse]

We've got Naerys contradicting herself and refusing to respond to basic questions

these aren't scumtells. so i don't really care. why do you?

Protip: don't tell ME what scumtells are or aren't.

I've played this game long enough (over 13 years) to know that alignment tells are about as useful as meta, since Town and Scum both know how to manipulate them.

Contradictions of one's own words show lack of consistency, and lack of consistency is a red flag. Likewise, avoiding questions and refusing to answer questions are major red flags, especially when Town is actively Scumhunting and Town should be as forthright, open, and honest as possible because they have nothing to hide, right?

When someone's not being consistent and refusing to play ball when it comes to Scumhunting that to me is blood in the water.

[Random Nurse]

1) I should really be sleeping right now and getting up in 6 hours.

2) Part of me is starting to gut read Psyche as Town but he's just wrong on NAS.

3) I'll take another look at NAS's posts.

4) I still feel that Naerys is Scum and that af least two Scum partners are trying to redirect my attention away from her.

5) I strongly believe one of Naerys/Hu is Scum.

[Random Nurse]

Going after LHF and white knighting are a powerful combination. Have you pocketed anyone this game?

Who is this directed towards?

[Random Nurse]

Good morning fellow townies! This game looks really complex to me.

This means nothing to me.

I'm so confident Naerys flips scum this game. Eliminate me and vote her out tomorrow. I agree with this.

VOTE: hu tao

She's contradicting herself. She does this as scum. She literally I'd saying the thing she did as town last game is now scummy when I do it.

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Self-voting

VOTE: Hu Tao

This seems more like a disagreement between players. It doesn't mean anything on its own.

No idea what this means

It's explained in the wiki article. It's a common scumtell.

Seen plenty of dramatic townies to self vote, including myself

Which is why self-voting alone isn't enough to gauge anyone's scuminess. But Hu Tao jumped on the RN wagon, that is another tell.

Can you tell me what you gathered from that link?

Just that it's a common scumtell that has to be combined with other scumtells before reaching any conclusion.

Again, this is just a topic on gameplay. There's some merit to it given there's a posted article on it. Them arguing over this doesn't change anything for me at the moment.

but someone clinging to the mafia wiki for dear life took the exact opposite message home?
it does not pass the smell test

I think I mentioned before that HT jumping on RN wagon looked opportunistic. Couple that with that self-vote, it looks really scummy.

I don't necessarily disagree with it. This doesn't really make me Townread or Scumread NAS at all.

hi

Did you see my post directed towards you?

Sorry I missed it. I see now from your iso that you mentioned me. I'll read those 2-3 pages tomorrow as I'll be a little busy for the next ~20 hours.

and still doesn't credibly explain why you think self-votes are scummy in the first place. you certainly didn't pick that belief up from the wiki you linked

I mentioned self-vote on its own doesn't mean much. But when you've this possible scum who jumped on the RN train and then a train starts forming on them, they could use the self-vote to subdue it.

Again, this in itself doesn't make me read NAS either way.

Is this a fucking joke?

WHAT in this collection of FIVE MEDIOCRE POSTS makes NAS more worthy of my ire than Naerys?

[Random Nurse]

5) I strongly believe one of Naerys/Hu is Scum.

This is what worries me. If we push naerys today and are wrong, I feel you’ll push Hu next and I’m not on board with that unless some new information is brought up that makes sense. If this game is just going to be “Random Nurse is clear so they get to decide who we eliminate every round”, I don’t think we’ll accomplish much outside of losing if your reads are wrong.

Do you realize how often people are wrong Day 1, but then use that information along with the Night 1 kill to start making connections?

It's completely fine, normal, and expected.

[Random Nurse]

hmm it looks like you didn't read my case if you're still asking that question

Where in his five posts makes him the appropriate target for launch today?

[Random Nurse]

We've got Naerys contradicting herself and refusing to respond to basic questions

these aren't scumtells. so i don't really care. why do you?

Protip: don't tell ME what scumtells are or aren't.

I've played this game long enough (over 13 years) to know that alignment tells are about as useful as meta, since Town and Scum both know how to manipulate them.

Contradictions of one's own words show lack of consistency, and lack of consistency is a red flag. Likewise, avoiding questions and refusing to answer questions are major red flags, especially when Town is actively Scumhunting and Town should be as forthright, open, and honest as possible because they have nothing to hide, right?

When someone's not being consistent and refusing to play ball when it comes to Scumhunting that to me is blood in the water.

You have played with townNae before, right?

I have, actually.

And when Town I do remember her answering my questions and actually working with me as I scumhunt.

[Random Nurse]

LHF is low hanging fruit, ie easy targets.

naeyrs is the low hanging fruit. or maybe hu tao. either of the self-voters are hanging pretty low

I don't consider either to be LHF, especially Hu. Naerys, when Town, does engage when sufficiently motivated.

[Random Nurse]

LHF is low hanging fruit, ie easy targets.

naeyrs is the low hanging fruit. or maybe hu tao. either of the self-voters are hanging pretty low

I don't consider either to be LHF, especially Hu. Naerys, when Town, does engage when

sufficiently motivated.

thats the key word

Indeed, so how much fire do I need to light under your butt?

[Random Nurse]

LHF is low hanging fruit, ie easy targets.

naeyrs is the low hanging fruit. or maybe hu tao. either of the self-voters are hanging pretty low

I don't consider either to be LHF, especially Hu. Naerys, when Town, does engage when sufficiently motivated.

Were you there when Scum Hu CC'd the Cop that had a guilty on her and got him launched? That's not the definition of LHF, period. Competent Scum could very easily dangle a self-vote filly knowing that ain't going nowhere.

[Random Nurse]

LHF is low hanging fruit, ie easy targets.

naeyrs is the low hanging fruit. or maybe hu tao. either of the self-voters are hanging pretty low

I don't consider either to be LHF, especially Hu. Naerys, when Town, does engage when sufficiently motivated.

I feel like Nae gets frustrated easily, especially when erroneously scum read, and kinda puts up that wall.

Tbf though, I don't think I have seen her scum game

Eh heh heh this is true I have punched ner buttons before. I'm just trying to figure out her alignment and it makes it a total bear when she shuts down and turtles up. I will light a FIRE under you.

I've seen her donk out as Scum too.

[Random Nurse]

im agreeing that these slots could be scum, but i think notascum is a wayy surer deal. if when you break it down into its essence lhf just means im targetting the person who is scummiest then 1) why wouldn't someone do that and 2) why introduce such a thought-terminating idea in the first place?

Could you paraphrase that because as is it's making NO sense whatsoever.

[Random Nurse]

Where exactly in NAS's five posts does he weigh heavier on the scales than Naerys or Hu?

I want you to explicitly state where and why.

[Random Nurse]

also still think a notascum scumflip would substantially implicate davesaz

Based on what?

[Random Nurse]

Where exactly in NAS's five posts does he weigh heavier on the scales than Naerys or Hu?

I want you to explicitly state where and why.

ive done this so many times

it's this post:

I'm so confident Naerys flips scum this game. Eliminate me and vote her out tomorrow. I agree with this.

VOTE: hu tao

She's contradicting herself. She does this as scum. She literally I'd saying the thing she did as town last game is now scummy when I do it.

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Self-voting

VOTE: Hu Tao

for these reasons:

the page provides an entire system for classifying self-votes and explains in detail how each type of self vote could come from scum

or

from town.

then the only sentence from which it can be gleaned that anyone thinks self-voting is a scumtell is:
"While this practice is commonly seen as scum-indicative, no data has been compiled on the actual effectiveness of self-voting as a towntell or a scumtell."
this is arguably the most disapproving way that a writer could conceivably share that information without openly abandoning wikipedia's editorial guidelines

but someone clinging to the mafia wiki for dear life took the exact opposite message home?
it does not pass the smell test

that are elaborated on in other posts. and notascum has absolutely floundered in his attempts to engage w/ all this

How does that make him Scum?

He could just be Town without a peer-reviewed source you agree with.

[Random Nurse]

Naerys ATEs (appeals to emotion for the newer players) when pushed as either alignment, but there may be a difference in how she does it.
Sometimes it isn't necessary to have detailed meta to tell the difference. I agree with RN, disengaging or avoiding the confrontation is more likely to mean she's scum even without the meta.

Hu Tao is similar in that respect, though in her case this game I'm looking at whether she's broadly considering the whole player list or narrowly focused on one of her antagonists.

I don't think either one would be easy to push through. Definitely not LHF, despite appearances from the self votes.

+1 for being reasonable.

-1 for triggering my paranoia in regards to pocketing me.

[Random Nurse]

what is your answer to the question i asked a while ago:
why do you think notascum voted hu tao in post #183?

because i don't think the explanation he actually gave in #183 passes muster. furthermore, he has repeatedly updated his explanation for this vote every time he's been asked to provide clarification.

Lemme take a look again.

[Random Nurse]

How does that make him Scum?

He could just be Town without a peer-reviewed source you agree with.

you're misunderstanding my point
it's not the pulling out the wiki and using it to justify a vote that's scummy
it's the fact that the wiki doesn't actually justify the vote!
the wiki all but condemns the idea of treating self-votes as scummy

the key implication of all this is that

he did not come around to his vote on hu tao for the reasons he originally gave us

Maybe he misread or misunderstood it.

You can be wrong and still Town.

I'd like to hear NAS clarify this.

[Random Nurse]

I'm so confident Naerys flips scum this game. Eliminate me and vote her out tomorrow. I agree with this.

VOTE: hu tao

She's contradicting herself. She does this as scum. She literally I'd saying the thing she did as town last game is now scummy when I do it.

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Self-voting

VOTE: Hu Tao

Could you please explain why you voted for Hu Tao at this point, NAS?

[Random Nurse]

As I read NAS's post I read it as his interpretation from reading that article. It sounds as though in this case he views self-voting as a scumtell but not not strong enough on its own, that it in tandem with other NAS-perceived Scumtells (like Hu jumping on my failwagon) paints a broader picture to him in his opinion. He's factoring in multiple things to form an early conclusion. He views it as a piece that must be combined with multiple other things (see: more than 2) before reaching a conclusion.

[Random Nurse]

To be blunt I think you're reaching, Psyche.

Now all that's left is deciding the intention behind it.

[Random Nurse]

also still think a notascum scumflip would substantially implicate davesaz

Do you have any concept of having a policy that 5 posts are not enough information to determine alignment no matter what the posts say?

i guess. it's a bad policy though, and a cop-out to the question at this point: why do you think notascum voted for hu tao?

for the record: dave ignored a simple question on a topic he'd demonstrated plenty of interest about otherwise

To be fair Naerys has basically shut down and ignored my questions but that didn't appear to bother you then, yeah?

Why make an issue of it now with Dave?

[Random Nurse]

again, my case isn't that NAS was wrong about what the wiki says.

my case is that NAS lied about how
1) he came to believe self-voting is scummy and
2) why he decided to vote for hu tao.

It sounds like you're assuming he lied.

Perhaps you should question him further to deduce more effectively.

[Random Nurse]

also still think a notascum scumflip would substantially implicate davesaz

Do you have any concept of having a policy that 5 posts are not enough information to determine alignment no matter what the posts say?

i guess. it's a bad policy though, and a cop-out to the question at this point: why do you think notascum voted for hu tao?

for the record: dave ignored a simple question on a topic he'd demonstrated plenty of interest about otherwise

To be fair Naerys has basically shut down and ignored my questions but that didn't appear to bother you then, yeah?

Why make an issue of it now with Dave?

dave can't play the VI card

Do you think Naerys is knowingly playing the VI card?

Wouldn't knowingly playing the VI card show premeditated malice?

[Random Nurse]

I really need to get back to sleep.

I'll be back.

[Random Nurse]

I think Aristeia should be given more scrutiny.

[Random Nurse]

Could it be Naerys, Psyche, Klick?

*makes measuring gestures with hands*

I think psyche and Klick are prob town. I think we look elsewhere. Aren't you sus of NAS?

Not at all.

Insultingly flimsy "reasoning" was given.

[Random Nurse]

Perhaps for now we should hunt within the five on my failwagon?

I would bet $$$ there's at least one Scum on it.

[Random Nurse]

can someone who cares about setups give me a rough guess of how many scum there are this time? complex doesn't have a set number for 13 players right?

I'm always assuming a minimum of 3 in a 13.

[Random Nurse]

I would not be surprised if all 3 scum were in: Naerys, NotAScum, Ari, Gera, PC, Dann. (Maybe Drew too but I need more time on him. I keep flipping on his alignment)

Why Ari?

Why not?

[Random Nurse]

KayJayQueue at least deserves to win so let’s just give her the townread. an innocent child in spirit.

[What are you doing?]

[Random Nurse]

KayJayQueue at least deserves to win so let’s just give her the townread. an innocent child in spirit.

Looks like an attempt to either condemn a Townie or absolve a teammate if you flip Scum.

[Random Nurse]

7-10 days are way too long IMO. Should be reduced to 2-3 days. After few days there nothing fresh to discuss.

Hey, are you ignoring my posts too?

I've had TWO posts directed towards you ignored now.

I can't have that. Please go and respond to my posts.

[Random Nurse]

Someone may have mentioned this already, but why did NAS not approach Naerys' self vote the same as Hu Tao's?

VOTE: Naerys

If Naerys were to flip Scum would you say that would implicate NAS?

Personally I am taking extreme embrace against both of them because both of them are actively refusing to engage me.

[Random Nurse]

VOTE: geraint

VOTE: gera

To be honest these two votes in quick succession does kind of pique my curiosity.

[Random Nurse]

Is this the same Wake of old just a lost password or something?

The one and only.

[Random Nurse]

Although my gut does suspect there's at least one among Klick, Hu Tao, and Psyche. Anyone have first-hand experience with Klick's Scum meta?

Also, hi Titus.

I've been asked to quote this for... *reasons.*

[Random Nurse]

Although my gut does suspect there's at least one among Klick, Hu Tao, and Psyche. Anyone have first-hand experience with Klick's Scum meta?

Also, hi Titus.

I've been asked to quote this for... *reasons.*

Pretty sure you're

0 out of 3

Strikeout

Well of course you would say this if you're Scum.

[Random Nurse]

Someone may have mentioned this already, but why did NAS not approach Naerys' self vote the same as Hu Tao's?

I haven't seen their self-voting. Haven't been able to read much since the few days.

Personally I am taking extreme embrace against both of them because both of them are actively refusing to engage me.

I'll be more active today and answer your queries.

Uh, no, I think I'm done giving you chances on this.

If you don't respond to my questions SOON you're gonna see a WHOLE new side of me.

[Random Nurse]

he’s gonna super duper activate his innocent child

You haven't seen my final form yet.

[Random Nurse]

rereading naerys vs hu tao and it just feels like two townies who desperately believe they are Correct

Eg, I don't see it.

Gut's screaming at me that one of'em is a wolf.

I play primarily on gut.

[Random Nurse]

I dunno.

Which wagons have had the most resistance si far?

In my experience on Day 1 it's like there's always gonna be major resistance early on a Dcum Wagon, and Scum will typically join on later if it starts looking inevitable.

[Random Nurse]

And there was like NO resistance to my fail wagon until I played Uno Reverse card.

[Random Nurse]

Dann, I want to think you're Town. Can I level with you?

What do you think about NAS twice now saying he'll get back to me and then just doesn't? What do you think about Naerys shutting down and refusing to engage? To me it says they're trying to avoid me, hide from me, not wanting to answer my questions... which makes me want to come after them even more.

[Random Nurse]

rereading naerys vs hu tao and it just feels like two townies who desperately believe they are Correct

Eg, I don't see it.

Gut's screaming at me that one of'em is a wolf.

I play primarily on gut.

I’d rather eliminate neither than both. Because I feel like no matter which one goes, the other will be pushed immediately after.

I think I pretty much understand the reasoning on NAS, not fully sure I buy that line of thinking but at least I understand the why.

Can someone help me understand the geraintm vote? I need to eventually choose a direction here.

I don't think that's a bad thing.

You have to remember we'd be getting invaluable data, especially when it comes to who will/refuses to vote.

To be frank your indecisiveness trips my gut in that it slightly feels feigned—don't take offense it is what it is.

[Random Nurse]

will be so sweet when i’m proven right about all this. yall waste so much text on things that don’t matter

Oh, well then do explain to us what you think does matter right now.

[Random Nurse]

rereading naerys vs hu tao and it just feels like two townies who desperately believe they are Correct

Eg, I don't see it.

Gut's screaming at me that one of'em is a wolf.

I play primarily on gut.

I’d rather eliminate neither than both. Because I feel like no matter which one goes, the other will be pushed immediately after.

I think I pretty much understand the reasoning on NAS, not fully sure I buy that line of thinking but at least I understand the why.

Can someone help me understand the geraintm vote? I need to eventually choose a direction here.

Voted longest wagon

I don't particularly like that reasoning.

[Random Nurse]

will be so sweet when i’m proven right about all this. yall waste so much text on things that don’t matter

Oh, well then do explain to us what you think does matter right now.

Nothing matters.
I honestly just want today to end so we can get on with the proper game, when we can get some night actions in and people aren't just talking in the dark.
I expect in this game, what with it being complex, that we should be able to narrow things down even quicker than normal and we are just expending energy now on nothing that will count by the end of the game.

I can understand that. Usually I operate with that intent as Town Day 1, because it's a challenge sussing out Scum that phase. Then again if we use this time to force players to make choices and moves we can judge them on it later as the walls start to close in.

[Random Nurse]

You know, Aristeia has posted less than a third of the time that Dave has, and Dave usually posts infrequently. Just raises my eyebrow a bit.

[Random Nurse]

Titus also barely posting makes me wonder, considering they're usually tearing into it.

[Random Nurse]

im sry for being so grumpy
ive been sick for like ten days now and it's very tedious
i hope it's almost over...

Did you try any homemade chicken soup?

[Random Nurse]

Psyche, what is your response?

[Random Nurse]

I’m going to be sad if the scum team is something like geraint/Titus/KJQ

I think I just wanna lim in this pool today though

The only one that can be scum here is geratim. However, why is your vote not there?

Is it just me or is this a bit tunnely and, dare I say, distancy?

[Random Nurse]

Titus also barely posting makes me wonder, considering they're usually tearing into it.

I’m going to be sad if the scum team is something like geraint/Titus/KJQ

I think I just wanna lim in this pool today though

The only one that can be scum here is geratim. However, why is your vote not there?

Is it just me or is this a bit tunnely and, dare I say, distancy?

Lol. These do not compute.

That's hardly an adequate response, Titus, and you know it.

[Random Nurse]

And there was like NO resistance to my fail wagon until I played Uno Reverse card.

Klick enters the chat

You're not that memorable tho.

[Random Nurse]

I hate this shit.

I suspect like 12 of you.

[Random Nurse]

It's a bitch trying to feel out everyone's intentions/motivations for moving about their votes.

Going to bed.

[Random Nurse]

The resistance to Naerys wagon is getting difficult to ignore.

I’m thinking Naerys is scum and her partners are trying to prevent her launch.

[Random Nurse]

my god random nurse

there is resistance to the naerys wagon because she's town and scum don't want to look shitty for hopping on the wagon of the easy self-voting target

I don’t think she’s Town, and I question why you assert she is.

She’s done nothing but avoid engaging me and refusing to answer my questions. Town doesn’t do that. Scum has every reason to avoid and hide: self-preservation.

[Random Nurse]

i think you'll find Town does do that

frequently

Your antagonism and disagreeableness makes me think you’re Town, but perhaps it’s a trained act as Scum. You seem to just argue and disagree without trying to bounce ideas off me, etc. If you’re actually Town, and knowing I’m an IC, perhaps your time would be spent better trying to work with the IC while it’s still alive.

[Random Nurse]

The resistance to Naerys wagon is getting difficult to ignore.

I’m thinking Naerys is scum and her partners are trying to prevent her launch.

We can get Naerys later. Jump on PC

Why?

[Random Nurse]

Titus, do you have opinions on anyone else?

Leaning scum on Dan. He's opposing everything I'm saying rather than working with me.

I'm concerned about Wake, but that could be real life.

I like pc, ger, hu tao and kay.

Oh?

[Random Nurse]

no

This is getting ridiculous.

It's not acceptable.

[Random Nurse]

Please stop trolling Naerys
This game can either be a very negative experience or not that, and that's up to players' personal choices

I’m getting sick and tired of her refusing to engage.

Even if Town that is NOT fucking OK.

[Random Nurse]

the last mini normal he modded had a town IC/Ninja enabler that killing it would make the mafia not ninjas.

the mini normal before that had an alien enabler mafia which if limmed disabled a town tpr.

the point I'm making here is that because of the complex rating and the mod meta there can be distinction between the scum roles such that one scum role would be much better for the town to yeet than another.

and if naerys is the weaker scum role and she distanced off Hu tao (the stronger scum role) and then hu tao got mad at her because the direction of the bussing is wrong that would explain the tilt that went on in the thread.

Funny you mention that.

If I’m killed it harms Scum’s power. That’s all I’m willing to say right now.

[Random Nurse]

ITT Klick predictably continues to run cover for Naerys.

[Random Nurse]

ITT Klick predictably continues to run cover for Naerys.

I know it's uncomfortable territory for you not being paranoid of everyone in the game

And you’re apparently not.

I wonder why that is.

[Random Nurse]

People must not be paying attention because my full role is not just IC.

[Random Nurse]

the last mini normal he modded had a town IC/Ninja enabler that killing it would make the mafia not ninjas.

the mini normal before that had an alien enabler mafia which if limmed disabled a town tpr.

the point I'm making here is that because of the complex rating and the mod meta there can be distinction between the scum roles such that one scum role would be much better for the town to yeet than another.

and if naerys is the weaker scum role and she distanced off Hu tao (the stronger scum role) and then hu tao got mad at her because the direction of the bussing is wrong that would explain the tilt that went on in the thread.

Funny you mention that.

If I’m killed it harms Scum’s power. That’s all I’m willing to say right now.

We all know you wouldn't say that if that was the case. Doctor or bodyguard be on Nurse. I don't want a fake claim later and they weren't on you

I’m also Macho so Scum needs to target me ASAP.

[Random Nurse]

ITT Klick predictably continues to run cover for Naerys.

I know it's uncomfortable territory for you not being paranoid of everyone in the game

As Town it’s both normal and expected for me to be paranoid of everyone in the game.

[Random Nurse]

Titus, PC, why are you on Aristeia and not Naerys?

[Random Nurse]

think dann is town. kind of curious why hu tao keeps him in her pool

He's good as scum. Can look towny

How is Dann as Scum?

Does he normally refuse to work with Tiwn especially ICs?

[Random Nurse]

i am happy to work with you!!

but not if your definition of working with you is to vote who you want or else

im happy to engage with you

Is that truly your impression?

[Random Nurse]

I've been trying to engage with you by explaining where I disagree with your takes and you have taken that as I don't want to work with you

My experience thus far has been you ignoring and shooting down my ideas and questions. I suspect you may be Town so I want to bounce ideas off you, you know, that whole trust thing Klick keeps talking incessantly about. I'm open to listening to your ideas, provided you are open to listening to mine.

[Random Nurse]

I suspect you may be Town so I want to bounce ideas off you, you know, that whole trust thing Klick keeps talking incessantly about. I'm open to listening to your ideas, provided you are open to listening to mine.

I'll try to be less dismissive

I would appreciate that. I will try to be more willing to listen.

[Random Nurse]

Part of me thinks a Naerys launch would yield much more data on player exchanges.

[Random Nurse]

Naerys is at E-2

Just to be clear

In your opinion, who is the best vote right now if you think Naerys is town? You soft-read NAS as town but then said it was fine if we voted that way today, so would that be your pick?

Could you quote those two posts for me please?

[Random Nurse]

Part of me thinks a Naerys launch would yield much more data on player exchanges.

I'll vote naerys over not a scum.

Prove it. Vote her

Also waiting to see this.

[Random Nurse]

Naerys is at E-2

Just to be clear

In your opinion, who is the best vote right now if you think Naerys is town? You soft-read NAS as town but then said it was fine if we voted that way today, so would that be your pick?

Could you quote those two posts for me please?

These

I looked through NotAScum's ISO again and while I'm not like super sold on him being town, I do think he's more likely to be town than scum

I kind of like how his focus on Hu Tao feels. It has such a detachment from everything else going on in the game. Seriously, ISO NAS and see how his progression on Hu Tao looks. He has a nagging suspicion there from start to finish. I wouldn't call finding Hu Tao scummy much of a natural political take, especially at this stage of the game. And so the way that read just kind of persists makes me feel like it might just be there because... NAS just actually believes Hu Tao is scummy.

Like I said, not that strong of a read, but I think there could be something there

sorry klick i don't really vibe with your read on him at all

I think tunneling on one slot in a rather isolated fashion is a rather common strategy for scum to employ. it makes it easy to make real looking posts without having to expend a lot of energy. i think 910 feels more like a question scum would ask than town would ask

Sure that's fine
I don't feel like NotAScum would be an egregious slot to test at all

Unless I misunderstood these posts, that’s what I got out of them.

What say you Klick?

I slightly Townread Kay.

[Random Nurse]

Titus, PC, why are you on Aristeia and not Naerys?

Because I'm confident there.

Based on?

[Random Nurse]

VOTE: Naerys

Ftr I want Ari or Dan but I don't think that's happening. Naerys isn't a horrible compromise.

...I thought you were confident.

[Random Nurse]

I'm almost thinking Titus now.

[Random Nurse]

Klick, what do you think about the idea of Titus potentially being Scum?

[Random Nurse]

I think Titus is town because she tends to be a lot more unpleasant when she's town compared to when she's mafia

...

Well, Titus doesn't exactly seem unpleasant this game, yes?

[Random Nurse]

Nothing has been learnt in this game since we accidentally outed our IC.

you mean since you tried to speedlim the IC on page 3

To be fair they didn't know beforehand.

[Random Nurse]

Naughty point. Feel like trying to read too much into 2 people's interactions when you just can't know.q

yes I can't know

the entire basis of the game is to make guesses, inferences and use your best judgement based on a set of imperfect information.

that's literally the point of the game.

thank you for letting me know that I don't know it's really educational and I do need more pointers from such a seasoned vet such as yourself.

But my argument will always be its Day 1, why on earth anyone tries so hard is beyond me, because everything is built on a base of sand. From Day 2 onwards go nuts, but 60 pages of this is draining.

I HAVE caught Scum Day 1 though.

It's not impossible. You have to engage enough to catch people in their inconsistencies.

[Random Nurse]

Datisi's lurking, just waiting for that page-top.

[Random Nurse]

Given the insane resistance I'm thinking Naerys is still the best course of action, and I'm gonna start advocating Town starts picking off those that refused starting Day 2 (should she flip Scum).

[Random Nurse]

Come on, we need two more votes.

Kay, PC, Klick, NAS, Psyche, Dann, Ari—what are you waiting for?

[Random Nurse]

Interesting…

[Random Nurse]

Very interesting…

[Random Nurse]

Is a Vig possible?

I find it hard to believe Scum WOULDN’T target me.

[Random Nurse]

If anyone has any gamebreaking results I would love to hear them.

[Random Nurse]

So I think PC is probably town BTW. Day ended before I could go over final reads, he started to act like he did as his last town game I was in with him and he started to ask more questions toward the end with me.

So why do you think I’m still alive?

They must think I’m hopelessly confused.

They may have made a horrible mistake, considering they don’t know my full role.

[Random Nurse]

Is a Vig possible?

I find it hard to believe Scum WOULDN’T target me.

If vig targeted Klick I'd start questioning our vig

I’m thinking a Vig killed Klick.

[Random Nurse]

So I think PC is probably town BTW. Day ended before I could go over final reads, he started to act like he did as his last town game I was in with him and he started to ask more questions toward the end with me.

So why do you think I’m still alive?

They must think I’m hopelessly confused.

They may have made a horrible mistake, considering they don’t know my full role.

They are probably scared of a doctor

Odd considering I’m Macho.

You sure?

[Random Nurse]

RN who are you most suspect of today

Lemme get back to you on that.

[Random Nurse]

Is a Vig possible?

I find it hard to believe Scum WOULDN’T target me.

I find it hard to believe scum would target you lol

And why do you think that is?

[Random Nurse]

you're just trying to stroke the IC's ego at this point

Which post does this refer to?

[Random Nurse]

you're just trying to stroke the IC's ego at this point

Which post does this refer to?

the post where she says scum didnt shoot you because they're scared of a doctor

...

How does that stroke my ego?

[Random Nurse]

Is a Vig possible?

I find it hard to believe Scum WOULDN’T target me.

I find it hard to believe scum would target you lol

And why do you think that is?

because you're the best IC the mafia could possibly hope for

Ah.

Have you played with me in the past?

[Random Nurse]

you're just trying to stroke the IC's ego at this point

Which post does this refer to?

the post where she says scum didnt shoot you because they're scared of a doctor

...

How does that stroke my ego?

because it implies you're doing a good job and the only reason they didnt shoot you was cuz they're scared you'll get doctor'ed

Uh huh.

You'd think they'd shoot at me anyways. At best there's a dead ConfTown and at worst they know an interferer exists... as well as PR-related side effects.

[Random Nurse]

I think reading hu tao as trying to stroke RN’s ego is an uncharitable interpretation

Or possibly malicious or worse.

Now I just need to weigh the intent.

[Random Nurse]

You'd think they'd shoot at me anyways. At best there's a dead ConfTown and at worst they know an interferer exists... as well as PR-related side effects.

if I was mafia I would never ever shoot you

Based on?

[Random Nurse]

klick was one of the strongest proponents of hu tao vs naerys being TvT and im inclined to sheep that

I want to think HT is Town but having played with them multiple times I know they're very good as Scum.

[Random Nurse]

Anyone else notice the uptick in hostility from Aristeia towards yours truly?

[Random Nurse]

you don't really care about other's people's opinions

you just hard shove whatever you want

instead of listening and working with other people you're just like "resistance to me is scummy!!!"

like mafia don't even have to push mislims you'll just do it for them

why would they shoot you?

...

Again, how many games have you played with me?

[Random Nurse]

you don't really care about other's people's opinions

you just hard shove whatever you want

instead of listening and working with other people you're just like "resistance to me is scummy!!!"

like mafia don't even have to push mislims you'll just do it for them

why would they shoot you?

...

If I trust certain players more than others I care about their opinions more.

As Town I don't care about self-preservation. I will push who I want, when I want, where I want, and as how many times as I want. Those who know my Town game know that I can be intense and relentless when someone or something finally catches my attention.

Your third point is blatantly wrong, and as I mentioned earlier it's typically the ones that argue with me who are Town and I Townread. Scum, in my experience, tends to really try to butter my biscuit and buddy up to me. I tend to threat posture at those starting to get too friendly.

Mafia recently tend to kill me early, or typically one of them fucks up eventually and I tear into them. Day 1 is typically a crapshoot and even the best hunters have a tough time rooting out Scum Day 1.

I am fairly certain they did shoot me, and that a Vig took out Klick.

[Random Nurse]

I wonder if Aristeia is Scum and is latching onto what I said earlier about me Townreading those who fight me, which I typically do, because it shows me they're headstrong and thinking for themselves...

That would be an entertaining thought.

[Random Nurse]

VOTE: Aristeia

[Random Nurse]

you don't really care about other's people's opinions

you just hard shove whatever you want

instead of listening and working with other people you're just like "resistance to me is scummy!!!"

like mafia don't even have to push mislims you'll just do it for them

why would they shoot you?

...

Again, how many games have you played with me?

I would appreciate an answer.

[Random Nurse]

VOTE: titus

I think you're still on the wrong track here

no offense but i don't think highly of your reads this game

A tad bristle.

Gonna be a stormy Day today I see.

[Random Nurse]

*bristly.

[Random Nurse]

you don't really care about other's people's opinions

you just hard shove whatever you want

instead of listening and working with other people you're just like "resistance to me is scummy!!!"

like mafia don't even have to push mislims you'll just do it for them

why would they shoot you?

...

Again, how many games have you played with me?

I would appreciate an answer.

I don't remember ever playing with you

...

...

If you don't remember ever playing with me how on Earth would you know how I truly have played these last 11 years?

[Random Nurse]

I suppose it's possible may have had that mindset and opted for Klick instead. Perhaps they haven't shot at me Night 1.

Guess I'm gonna actually have to read this thread.

[Random Nurse]

Checking in quickly.
Not sure of the night kill, but I ain't going to waste time speculating on the reasoning.

You don’t think it’s something worth thinking about?

[Random Nurse]

Where are we now on launching?

(At work so can barely post.)

[Random Nurse]

Why NAS today?

Gut's not pinging on this one currently.

[Random Nurse]

Why NAS today?

Gut's not pinging on this one currently.

Gut was wrong once already. Try going the opposite

Eh, gut can't always be right.

Imagine if it was.

[Random Nurse]

I'm not convinced on the NAS wagon.

[Random Nurse]

*obligatory IC post.

(work is killing me again)

Still not sold on the NAS launch and it seems very Scum-driven.

[Random Nurse]

I don't recall Scummies having an award for most toxic player, so not sure why Aristeia is fighting so hard for it.

[Random Nurse]

our IC has graced us with his presence but he can't find the mafia who is driving the NAS wagon

if only his work was not so busy we could be guided to the promised land

All these flavors out there and you choose to be toxic.

Tell me, what did we do to spur you to wake up out of bed and choose violence?

[Random Nurse]

My favorite thing about this game is the disdain that drips from Ari every time she mentions RN

It's just really weird.

[Random Nurse]

K, so, I'm so gonna die Night 3.

[Random Nurse]

I AM bulletproof but they have an out Night 3!

I'm not actually Macho tho so if there's a fren out there hit me up.

[Random Nurse]

do we massclaim? solve feels close

I think a massclaim is in order.