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@spring: Why lurk? Is actively playing the game not fun for you?"SAULRES you are THE man! Fav mod eva, no contest!" - Bert; "Saulres is a fantastic mod, if he is running a game everyone needs to join it." - FuDuzn
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/me highfives Junpei.
1)Spoiler: Answer
2) Logic. I like to solve problems. But if I need to rely on my gut, I will.
3) A little bit of both, depending on the situation.
4) I doubt it. I assume I'd still be criticizing myself. So I'd behave pretty much the same.
Junpei wrote:springlullaby wrote:First!
Don't mind me, I'll just lurk till page 10.
Are you serious? It isn't pro-town to intentionally lurk the first 10 pages of the game
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In post 14, Crab Canon wrote:@saulres - you've played with junpei before?
No, I have not. I've played with Amrun, and I've played with springlullaby, but not with anyone else in this game.
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The high fives were because I agreed with two of the statements. Nothing more.
Glad to see spring's reneged on her lurk, though."SAULRES you are THE man! Fav mod eva, no contest!" - Bert; "Saulres is a fantastic mod, if he is running a game everyone needs to join it." - FuDuzn
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Wait what?
Clearly I'm missing something here. What did I do to deserve a vote so quickly? Or is that still RVS? (That's one of the reasons why I hate RVS by the way -- I don't understand when it ends.)
I also don't understand Vi's posts. What is it about fire and ice he -- she? -- (curse you and your lack of gender selection!) doesn't like? Is Vi really so anti-Pat Benatar? Or anti-Robert Frost?
Also why was I lumped with 4nxi3ty, and Sathorsis?
Although I do like the RP with the theme, and am more than willing to get into handcuffs and lock myself in an underwater box and disappear..."SAULRES you are THE man! Fav mod eva, no contest!" - Bert; "Saulres is a fantastic mod, if he is running a game everyone needs to join it." - FuDuzn
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... only to magically reappear in another post!
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In post 49, Locke Lamora wrote:Saulres: how many games have you played?
This is my fifth.
1 offsite, where I started as town but was converted to scum.
When I Googled all the new terms the other players were throwing out in that game, it kept bringing me here, so when I decided I liked it I signed up for a newbie which is still ongoing. While that's happened I played in two others, 1 finished, and 1 completed. In both those finished ones I was town.
Vi -- great job! While I was falling asleep last night I figured out exactly who your slot is. LOL Danny!"SAULRES you are THE man! Fav mod eva, no contest!" - Bert; "Saulres is a fantastic mod, if he is running a game everyone needs to join it." - FuDuzn
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In post 0, Debonair Danny DiPietro wrote:
1)This game has partial no reveal. This means that character name and alignment color only will be posted. The colorgreenwill be what is typically considered to be town. If you are color-blind let the moderator know so he may state it more explicitly.
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In post 61, Shift wrote:His reaction to my vote though is absolutely scumtastic.
It is? Please elaborate. I had seen you vote for me with no reason, in a post where you quoted Vi and no one else, so I questioned why. I don't see how that's a scumtell. If anything I'd read it as "Vi signalled her scumbuddies to vote for the people she listed without voting for them" and you following along."SAULRES you are THE man! Fav mod eva, no contest!" - Bert; "Saulres is a fantastic mod, if he is running a game everyone needs to join it." - FuDuzn
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In post 67, Shift wrote:Ace not posting yet is ridiculous, so are Saul, Spring, and Riggs not voting anyone.
In post 15, Shift wrote:I DO WHAT I WANT
I don't really like RQS but I know some players like to throw fits when someone doesn't answer your questions.
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Finally got a chance to catch up. First a couple of questions:
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I wiki'd what a Cult is, and I know what a Cop is -- what's a "Cult Cop"? A member of a Cult with Cop abilities, or a Cop who can detect if someone's Cult or not?
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In post 50, Junpei wrote:The fact that Vi concurred with another vote meant to me that there was something scummy about saulres
Why does Vi's opinion hold so much sway over you, Junpei?
Okay, now the case and the vote:
4ni3ty: In the post right before this one, you agree with Amrun that Shift looks like scum, so you promptly follow Vi's solo-wagon onto Crab Canon? That's seems curious to me.
In 34 you interact with Vi saying her -- (digression: Vi could you please gesture something to indicate your gender?) -- saying her posts make you look bad. In 24 you say interaction "allows us to see what a player is doing like buddying for example". Using your own advice, I looked at the interaction in 34, and it sure feels like buddying with Vi.
Whether Vi is scum or not, both of the above points seem like buddying. Whether it's scum buddying a scumbuddy or scum false-buddying to set someone up later, it's too suspicious for me to ignore.
Your 105 is bizarre as well. You tell shift he needs to distance from me and ace. Funny, I never saw him buddying with me or Ace. All I saw was tunneling on me and hoping Ace would contribute. I don't know what you were trying to accomplish with that post, but it seems misdirecting, and scummy.
So, yeah. Scumvibes all around.
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You so don't need to quote the whole thing to highlight two words.
How do you know there's no cult in this game unless you're scum with more information than town?
Besides, it was a question for a clarification of the term, I didn't imply anything with it.
And no, I've never heard the term "buddying" applied to townies. Townies don't know who each other are until at least one's confirmed, so how could they buddy at this point in this game?"SAULRES you are THE man! Fav mod eva, no contest!" - Bert; "Saulres is a fantastic mod, if he is running a game everyone needs to join it." - FuDuzn
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I'm not seeing buddying in your run-together quote. I see "Ace not posting yet is ridiculous".
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In post 132, saulres wrote:I'm not seeing buddying in yourlink. I see "Ace not posting yet is ridiculous".
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Neither. It's a commentary on play style and choices. Not every post is distancing or buddying.
Of course with Shift it could also have been a joke. Shift jokes a lot, according to his responses after he's called out on something."SAULRES you are THE man! Fav mod eva, no contest!" - Bert; "Saulres is a fantastic mod, if he is running a game everyone needs to join it." - FuDuzn
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In post 140, Crab Canon wrote:figuring out who Vi is and realizing that it is likely a town role
I figured it out but I don't understand why you say it's likely a town role. Clarify please?"SAULRES you are THE man! Fav mod eva, no contest!" - Bert; "Saulres is a fantastic mod, if he is running a game everyone needs to join it." - FuDuzn
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You're using Mod Meta to determine alignments?
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What the hell do the images in scottyrulezs' posts mean?
I mean, with Vi's, I can look at the file name and figure it out. But not scotty's."SAULRES you are THE man! Fav mod eva, no contest!" - Bert; "Saulres is a fantastic mod, if he is running a game everyone needs to join it." - FuDuzn
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Thanks for the image-decoding, CC.
In post 139, sottyrulez wrote:4nxi3ty got a lot better as he posted about Shift and about CC. Really not understanding saulres vote on him in 127. He seems to pick up on a lot of things that aren't actually scummy.
They're not? How are they not?
Here were my points. Please explain how they're not scummy:
Point 1: Thinks Shift is scum and then, out of nowhere, with no further explanation, votes Crab Canon. He still hasn't provided any solid reasons, eventually saying "Vibes and fluff" in 167.
Point 2: Interactions with Vi. Based on these interactions I see 4nxi3ty being Vi's "role partner" -- if you've figured out who Vi is then you'll know what I mean -- and it sure seems that he's buddying with her (either as scumbuddy or as a setup if they're on opposing sides).
Point 3: Strawman argument of his own that shift is either distancing or buddying with both me and Ace."SAULRES you are THE man! Fav mod eva, no contest!" - Bert; "Saulres is a fantastic mod, if he is running a game everyone needs to join it." - FuDuzn
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Scotty: Regarding Vi's post restriction, you see it as a red flag because CC says "there is nothing she can do about it", right? Because it seems to mean that CCknowsthat she's not faking it, and the only way they'd know that is if they communicated with her outside the thread.
Assuming that there is knowledge, may I remind you that we're in a closed setup? That communication could have happened between scum,orbetween masons. Given who Vi's role likely is, it could be either. Or it could have just been an assumption. It's really not an alignment tell in any way, but might become one when either of them flip."SAULRES you are THE man! Fav mod eva, no contest!" - Bert; "Saulres is a fantastic mod, if he is running a game everyone needs to join it." - FuDuzn
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Sorry about the misspelling, sotty.
Townies scratch their heads and twiddle their beards wondering what is going on. What can Vi post? What can't she post? Is she really restricted or this this some gambit for reactions, or worse, a gambit by scum so they don't have to commit in thread? Townies then question Vi and make up their mind depending on what she posts, if she is telling the truth or not. Lets pretend at the start of the game Vi isn't very helpful with this. Suggests she would be modkilled for talking about her restriction and isn't very helpful to the town. The town is perplexed.
Huh. I'm a townie and I never thought twice about the post restriction. I don't care if it's a real restriction or not -- it'sgreatRP for the role Vi presumably received and she's usually communicating just fine. Where she isn't someone comes in to clarify and she nods or shakes her head.
Seems to me like you're trying to make a problem where one doesn't exist. Your whole argument seems based on CC already being scum. I was looking for why you made that assumption and I was having trouble finding it."SAULRES you are THE man! Fav mod eva, no contest!" - Bert; "Saulres is a fantastic mod, if he is running a game everyone needs to join it." - FuDuzn
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In post 198, sottyrulez wrote:VP's twisting and squirming thought his pressure has been pretty bad. I don't think he has reacted well to our vote at all. What do you think?
By VP you mean CC, I'll try to keep that straight. The interaction between your hydra and that hydra is most likely the next thing I'm going to turn my attention to, to see if I can read anything from it."SAULRES you are THE man! Fav mod eva, no contest!" - Bert; "Saulres is a fantastic mod, if he is running a game everyone needs to join it." - FuDuzn
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/me begins thinking about who could be the other in Vi's group of three roles is. He knows who Vi's role is, knows who Vi's partner role is (the role not the player for sure yet, although he has his suspicions) and wonders if the third has the initials ca."SAULRES you are THE man! Fav mod eva, no contest!" - Bert; "Saulres is a fantastic mod, if he is running a game everyone needs to join it." - FuDuzn
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A lot of the fun for me in this game is figuring out the scenarios to try to see what makes sense. Like unraveling a detective story.
Plus yes, I think it's a pro-town move to look for connections which could be scum. The three Vi pointed out as being on her bandwagon I've noticed myself, in particular the way the only two non-RVS votes you've made are to jump on her bandwagons. Both of those were made at what appear to be your first real opportunity. Why are you sheeping Vi?"SAULRES you are THE man! Fav mod eva, no contest!" - Bert; "Saulres is a fantastic mod, if he is running a game everyone needs to join it." - FuDuzn
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Riggs, do you have a reason of your own to vote for Ace? You haven't provided one.
And sotty, Crab -- thanks for the advice. Rest assured I don't say everything that's on my mind, but I do try to gather more information when I have questions."SAULRES you are THE man! Fav mod eva, no contest!" - Bert; "Saulres is a fantastic mod, if he is running a game everyone needs to join it." - FuDuzn
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Boy this game has a lot of different bandwagons. Here I just finished my analysis of the sotty vs. cc debate, coming up with sotty being scummier than cc, only to find that now the leading bandwagon is on ace. Time to read again.
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I already did that. Doesn't mean I shouldn't look for more scum. There's not just one."SAULRES you are THE man! Fav mod eva, no contest!" - Bert; "Saulres is a fantastic mod, if he is running a game everyone needs to join it." - FuDuzn
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Oh no, I have more. But I can only place one vote at a time.
Whenever a large bandwagon forms, though, I like to look at it to see who it's against, who's on it, why they're on it, and what I can tell from it. And if I find someone scummier than my current vote I may change it. Also if I see we're nearing deadline I may switch to a less-scummier read to avoid a no lynch.
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Can someone explain the wagon on Ace for me?
Near as I can tell, it's there because Ace defended CC. Vi voted for him and then sotty and 4nxi3ty sheeped. Riggs joined it because -- well, because sotty's on it and Ace thinks sotty is scum and bussing Ace.
Do I have that right? Because I don't see what the big deal is. Is there something I'm missing?"SAULRES you are THE man! Fav mod eva, no contest!" - Bert; "Saulres is a fantastic mod, if he is running a game everyone needs to join it." - FuDuzn
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If I understand you correctly, oh silent one, you're saying that Ace is being voted for because he was heavily attacking Junpei, then with no warning whatsoever dropped the case, incriminated himself by supporting CC and voting sottyrulez, and then -- returned as a Muslim?
Okay, I can't make sense of that last part. But if I've correctly interpreted the rest, then the only thing in addition to my 288 is that he dropped his case on Junpei. Possibly based on:
In post 96, ace5993 wrote:I see nothing by Junpei that makes me want to change wagons.
Do I have it straight now?
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Why are you doing that?
4nxi3ty, I served with Vi, I knew Vi, Vi was a friend of mine. 4nxi3ty, you're no Vi.*
*disclaimer: I haven't actually played with Vi before. But I couldn't resist the quote.
Speaking of Vi, who isn't speaking:
Dictionary.com definition of fakir wrote:
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1. a Muslim or Hindu religious ascetic or mendicant monk commonly considered a wonder-worker.
2. a member of any Islamic religious order; dervish.
You think he's a wonder-worker!
No, that can't be right. Must be some other meaning you're ascribing to it which I don't understand. Nevertheless, I believe now that what you're saying is that Ace incriminated himself with his exchange as you displayed in 257.
So, to Ace. I do find this funny:
In post 249, ace5993 wrote:^good posting. I don't really agree with most of it
But I'm not seeing anything solidly scum, so I have no scum-read-reason to vote for him.
Having said that: I'm going to be V/LA -- more than V/LA, completely inaccessible -- starting a little less than 48 hours before day deadline, extending to sometime during game night. This means my vote's going to be locked in around that time and unchangeable, so I want it as right as possible before then.
Or, for the day to end before then. I'm starting to think at this point that a flip of -- several players -- would be quite illuminating. So if someone whose flip I think would be revealing gets to L-1, I'll probably be willing to hammer."SAULRES you are THE man! Fav mod eva, no contest!" - Bert; "Saulres is a fantastic mod, if he is running a game everyone needs to join it." - FuDuzn
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In post 312, Crab Canon wrote:Saulres, if you're leaving for the rest of the game day, I highly encourage a sotty vote.
I won't be leaving before Wednesday (sorry if that wasn't clear), but I've taken your thoughts (and those of others, as well as my own) into advisement."SAULRES you are THE man! Fav mod eva, no contest!" - Bert; "Saulres is a fantastic mod, if he is running a game everyone needs to join it." - FuDuzn
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Could you guys use links or something when you throw out terms like "this" and "that"? Especially you, Ace. It's challenging enough to decipher Vi, we really don't need to do it with others.
For my clarification please:
ace5993 wrote:sotty, that's exactly what she (one of your heads) said
Whatis exactly whatwhosaid?
sottyrulez wrote:In post 317, Shift wrote:
tl;dr: We think Crab is scum but don't see how us being wrong makes it Town vs. Scum. We believe he's scum but not sure and not willing to maintain an argument with him out of fear of losing.
While shortened it may not seem that bad but something about it rubs me entirely the wrong way. I don't like it.
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She was challenging Fishy's assumption via his point of view. That wasn't what she was saying at all.
Whatwasn't whatwhowas saying at all?
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Confirm vote: 4nxi3ty
I highly suggest everyone else policy lynch him until he stops posting like that.
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Guy_Named_Riggs wrote:He strikes me as just an annoying townie.
In post 324, saulres wrote:Confirm vote: 4nxi3ty
I highly suggest everyone elsepolicy lynchhim until he stops posting like that.
Unless Vi converted him?
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In post 335, Locke Lamora wrote:the fact that his vote is currently on a suggested policy lynch speaks volumes
You understand it was there before that suggestion, right?
As to the rest, I'm just trying to be honest about my unavailability and letting people know that I will not at all be available at end of day. Since I like having input I'd rather be around at end of day and indicating my willingness to help end day a couple of days early so my vote is as well-placed as it can be. Right now it looks like it could move to end the day early if I put in on sotty or ace, and I think sotty's flip would reveal a ton more than ace, so I was tempted to move it, but the way bandwagons move around here so much I'd rather not move it off my top suspect just yet. There's still a few more real days until I have to be gone."SAULRES you are THE man! Fav mod eva, no contest!" - Bert; "Saulres is a fantastic mod, if he is running a game everyone needs to join it." - FuDuzn
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*looks back at 4nxi3ty with a completely blank look as if to say "I have no idea at all what you're talking about or who the boss is but I think you having a boss means it's more likely that you're a goon and your boss is a scum leader*
It's the best I can do with whatever 4nxi3ty posted. I hate how I don't understand what people are saying in this game."SAULRES you are THE man! Fav mod eva, no contest!" - Bert; "Saulres is a fantastic mod, if he is running a game everyone needs to join it." - FuDuzn
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Vi's generally not a problem, if something's not clear and she's asked about she usually explains it.
It's in particular 4nxi3ty's lack of follow-up and explanation that's anti-town to me. It's like using a secret code and anyone who wants to do that is not, imo, helping town at all.
Plus there's all the confusion I get trying to understand "he" "she" "this" etc. when it's not clear to someone other than possibly the poster who they mean. As I've frutilessly pointed out before."SAULRES you are THE man! Fav mod eva, no contest!" - Bert; "Saulres is a fantastic mod, if he is running a game everyone needs to join it." - FuDuzn
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One more point about 4nxi3ty that I finally remembered, then when I get back on later I'll read the intervening posts.
You're
In post 309, 4nxi3ty wrote:*Shouts*
doing
In post 323, 4nxi3ty wrote:*says the magic words : lamp is buried:*
it
In post 323, 4nxi3ty wrote:*says a tenative 'aloha' to leaky scarecrow, crowd control, fire-fuel ace, and shifty lurk*
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No one's moving votes?
Fine then. I think not enough people are going to be coming on my 4nxi3ty bandwagon, so time to move mine to another scumspect.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: sottyrulez"SAULRES you are THE man! Fav mod eva, no contest!" - Bert; "Saulres is a fantastic mod, if he is running a game everyone needs to join it." - FuDuzn
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@Mod: I'm going to be V/LA from sometime Wednesday until sometime probably Sunday (give or take a day)."SAULRES you are THE man! Fav mod eva, no contest!" - Bert; "Saulres is a fantastic mod, if he is running a game everyone needs to join it." - FuDuzn
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Vi? 295 should be 255. Also, you missed one.
In post 249, ace5993 wrote:however 227 is one of the most bizarre name mess-ups I've ever seen, I'm not sure how he could mix up me and 4nxi3ty in this context when we were on opposite poles of his wagon.
In any case, what I take from this is that you think CC's slip is indicative that CC is scumbuddies with Ace. And SR and 4nxi3ty, the names intended by CC, are people the scumteam of CC and Ace were trying to get busses on 227-228.
Because I enjoy your RP, Vi, give us a show to answer? How about a card trick if yes and a rings trick if no?"SAULRES you are THE man! Fav mod eva, no contest!" - Bert; "Saulres is a fantastic mod, if he is running a game everyone needs to join it." - FuDuzn
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In post 386, Locke Lamora wrote:saulres: can you summarise why you think Sotty is scum, and why you think that lynch would reveal more information?
Here's the draft I was working on last Wednesday which I reference here. Perhaps it will explain. Spoiler-condensed because it's long and I don't feel like editing it since I was planning on abandoning it.
Spoiler: saved draft sotty vs cc
At that point I realized that I kept getting what I felt as townfeel for CC and scumfeel for Sotty. I did some skimming instead of continuing the details and found nothing which made me change my mind.
I don't think there's a solid enough case on ace and the one on sotty seem stronger, so I'd rather lynch the more likely scum. If he flips town, then CC is certainly worth looking into more.
So why do I think his flip will be more informative than Ace's? Vi, sotty, and 4nxi3tyas a groupwent from voting CC to voting Ace. I feel a flip of someone in that group will be much more useful during future VCA than someone whose votes only seem to be following their own thinking instead of a sheep mentality."SAULRES you are THE man! Fav mod eva, no contest!" - Bert; "Saulres is a fantastic mod, if he is running a game everyone needs to join it." - FuDuzn
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You're kidding right? You seriously think that that post was a "push" for a policy lynch?
I'd been voting for you for most of the game. People weren't joining. Then you started posting annoyingly, so I suggested another reason to vote for you. If you're town, you were a detriment to it then. And you still are. To wit:
Ace's post you quoted has nothing to do with you. It was written after I moved my vote off you and onto sotty. Ace's vote at the time was on sotty. Shift's policy lynch he refers to was on spring for lurking. There were actuallyno votes at all for youat the time that post written.
I don't think I've ever seen such a poorly-researched misrep."SAULRES you are THE man! Fav mod eva, no contest!" - Bert; "Saulres is a fantastic mod, if he is running a game everyone needs to join it." - FuDuzn
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You linked to my original reason, and I'm not currently voting you.
Although I'm seriously considering rectifying that error."SAULRES you are THE man! Fav mod eva, no contest!" - Bert; "Saulres is a fantastic mod, if he is running a game everyone needs to join it." - FuDuzn
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The one where I removed my vote from a player who's detrimental to town (that would be you)."SAULRES you are THE man! Fav mod eva, no contest!" - Bert; "Saulres is a fantastic mod, if he is running a game everyone needs to join it." - FuDuzn
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I'm being vague? Seriously?
You're detrimental to town.
I believe you're one of the scummiest players in this game, and I also believe SR's one of the scummiest players in the game. But I can only place one vote.
I never policy lynched you, I suggested that others do.
The error was not trying to build a stronger case against you."SAULRES you are THE man! Fav mod eva, no contest!" - Bert; "Saulres is a fantastic mod, if he is running a game everyone needs to join it." - FuDuzn
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I'm not saying you're scum, because I don't know who the scum is. I have no way of knowing until someone flips or makes a clear mistake if they're scum.
I'm saying that you're anti-town.
I'm also saying that you're in the top two of my scumreads.
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What difference does it make? I only get one vote. I'm trying to put it where it has the most chance of getting a lynch of my top scumspects."SAULRES you are THE man! Fav mod eva, no contest!" - Bert; "Saulres is a fantastic mod, if he is running a game everyone needs to join it." - FuDuzn
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*taps the stage microphone* Is this thing on?
@4nxi3ty: What difference does it make?
@SR: In the short term, a flip to either town or scum raises the possibilities that the others in the group are also in that alignment, possibly masons with day-talk capabilities. In the long term, several days down, VCA could be used to look for bussing, false buddying , etc.
I haven't seen any solid scumslips yet. The closest could be CC's ace/4nxi3ty slipup, and I'm still waiting on Vi to confirm my understanding of her communication.
I don't see anywhere else where a flip could potentially reveal so much, although Vi's confirmation could potentially make a case that an Ace flip would also be revealing. I hope it comes soon, because my V/LA's a little over 24 hours away and I'd really like to be contributing at end of day. (Missing the beginning of the day isn't as critical as missing the end of day imo.)
I do find it interesting that after I posted my thoughts about flipping someone in that group, Vi moved her vote and 4nxi3ty moved it elsewhere, so you're no longer all voting the same."SAULRES you are THE man! Fav mod eva, no contest!" - Bert; "Saulres is a fantastic mod, if he is running a game everyone needs to join it." - FuDuzn
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In post 404, Amrun wrote:I just think that post of Ace's displays pro-town reasoning to back up my lolgut.I just don't think he's scum.
In post 440, Amrun wrote:my position has switched; I would rather lynch ace over sotty.
With only one post by you between those two, the second comes out of the blue. Why the change of heart?"SAULRES you are THE man! Fav mod eva, no contest!" - Bert; "Saulres is a fantastic mod, if he is running a game everyone needs to join it." - FuDuzn
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*Goes up to Vi and pulls the selective hearing earplugs from her ears*
Why do you ignore me, Vi? Gonna link again to the post I'd like you to confirm or further clarify. You don't even have to do the trick, just a simple nod if I understood correctly and a shake of the head if I didn't.
... And looking at the post I see that I didn't specifically ask you to validate. It was there when I was composing it but it must've gotten lost and I didn't notice."SAULRES you are THE man! Fav mod eva, no contest!" - Bert; "Saulres is a fantastic mod, if he is running a game everyone needs to join it." - FuDuzn
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Okay...
I give up then. Will someone who can talk please tell me what this means?:
Ace wrote:Name mix-ups are VERY important to look at, who's the least likely to mess up a name and in what situation? HINT: Scum usually have pretty good ideas of who their scumbuddies are.
In reference to 227 and 228?"SAULRES you are THE man! Fav mod eva, no contest!" - Bert; "Saulres is a fantastic mod, if he is running a game everyone needs to join it." - FuDuzn
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I'm suggesting some sort of connection between at least two of them if not all three. I lean towards SR/4nxi3ty being scum, possibly tagging onto Vi to make her look bad if one of them flips (although Vi's hooking of SR a few posts up makes it look like she's in on it at least as far as SR goes). They could all be connected town, though, too. That's one of the reasons, as I explained above, why I think flipping one of them would be very telling.
I am trying to gather more information, though, before I V/LA (a misnomer, once I'm gone I will havenoaccess until I return), because I'm of course open to other scum possibilities. I just haven't seen enough anywhere else which gives me potential links, making other flips essentially random and barely informative."SAULRES you are THE man! Fav mod eva, no contest!" - Bert; "Saulres is a fantastic mod, if he is running a game everyone needs to join it." - FuDuzn
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In post 460, springlullaby wrote:why is everyone ignoring GNR?
Sounds like my cue to ISO! (I do so love ISOing requests.) And with 12 posts, this shouldn't take long.
First 5 posts: No content.
243: Presumes Ace and SR are scumbuddies because SR changed his vote to ace right after Vi did. So votes -- Ace? Weird.
245 and 246: Calls SR Crab by mistake and buddies up to Vi.
Wait what? How many times are people going to call other people by the wrong names in this game?
285 confirms his thought that SR is scum.
325 thinks 4nxi3ty's annoying town.
416 talks about spring and sees votes but not the reasons behind them.
Spring, I think everybody's ignoring GNR because he's not really doing anything. That's not necessarily scummy."SAULRES you are THE man! Fav mod eva, no contest!" - Bert; "Saulres is a fantastic mod, if he is running a game everyone needs to join it." - FuDuzn
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Doing nothing is neither town nor scum. I believe it's disinterest. I've seen townies post extremely few and meaningless posts and still be VT."SAULRES you are THE man! Fav mod eva, no contest!" - Bert; "Saulres is a fantastic mod, if he is running a game everyone needs to join it." - FuDuzn
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Putting a game above schoolwork? That's scum talk!
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Or, rejoin the much more viable SR wagon. If you think GNR is scum, then you have to think SR's also scum from the way GNR treated him in 243."SAULRES you are THE man! Fav mod eva, no contest!" - Bert; "Saulres is a fantastic mod, if he is running a game everyone needs to join it." - FuDuzn
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@SR: The link is that GNR said "Hey Sotty! My vote isn't on Ace, but you're scum because you're bussing him! So I'm going to vote for him instead of you!" If GNR is scum that reads as "I'll support my scumbuddy who's voting for town, and tomorrow when he's not scum make up some excuse to get him off the hook.
Also I never said I think Vi is scum. I said that you and 4nxi3ty were likely scum and were following her around for some reason (a behavior, BTW, which stopped after I pointed it out).
That leaves room for a third scum who could theoretically be GNR. And your flip would help confirm/deny those suspicions as well as the other ones I noted on CC, 4nxiety, possibly Vi, and now GNR."SAULRES you are THE man! Fav mod eva, no contest!" - Bert; "Saulres is a fantastic mod, if he is running a game everyone needs to join it." - FuDuzn
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