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Fortunately my role pm was green, but maybe that's unfortunate for you?
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Ooo. I read the Manga. I like it.In post 71, ketchup777 wrote:Alice in borderland is one of my favourite shows
On a more relevant note, the only person yet to post is ssbm_Kyouko.-
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Err. I think it's not shade. They were just giving an exampleIn post 121, OutWorldER wrote:
Hu Tao and Jacob may have had votes but they were far from the points of discussion at that time. All eyes were on bugspray. The lines of thinking and discussion at that time would've continued much the same as they did without Jacob's presence. The theory you've described here is patchwork at best.In post 118, ketchup777 wrote: -SNIP-
My mind went off track when I said your bugspray townlean made no sense, disregard that.
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You're wrongIn post 142, DeltaWave wrote: VOTE: Ketchup777
I can elaborate but just look at the ISO and tell me I'm wrong.-
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In fact I'd say ketchup is the only person I'm town leaning on so far-
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So you have extensive meta with bug? Can you post a game you've caught them before this early?In post 150, Luca Blight wrote:In post 136, Black wrote: Sure, that's fair
I'm looking forward to hearing your scumcase on bug. Your confidence is a little jarring but that might be because I'm rarely confident in my reads, especially early
I'm always very confident in my read on certain players, and Bugs is one of them. I know Bugs is scum, and Bugs knows I know they're scum, and I can understand their frustration as I always catch them out very early in the game.-
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VOTE: bugs
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You sound like you're reciting a play.In post 168, iamveryhappy wrote:why are you still scum
Honestly, I’m so bad at mafia it’s actually normal to be insulted, it’s never gone well for the opposing player regardless of their alignment. I can’t say the same for you, I can tell you you think highly of yourself, and it probably irks you that I caught you this early.-
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Meta and your confidence. I don't think scum does that this earlyIn post 172, Luca Blight wrote:
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I'd agree that you're not your usual townie self, Black. But I suppose that could change in due time-
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Sorry you replaced into scum again, Dann. I was looking forward to playing with you again.-
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Yep. Bug/Dann is scum slot. Let's keep votingIn post 272, Black wrote:
You said pretty much this exact thing when you replaced me as scum in Open 888In post 267, Dannflor wrote: i did not
i actually read the game first this time and made sure i was replacing into what i thought was more likely to be a town slot before i replaced in
Yeah I think Dann is just scum hereIn post 925, Dannflor wrote: for the record i would not have requested replacement into this game if i didn't think black was town here-
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2 more votes. All we need for a day 1 scum elim-
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Disagree. Feels like honest townIn post 333, OutWorldER wrote:
scum postIn post 323, ketchup777 wrote: Maybe I'm delaying the inevitable, but if Dann flips town then at least I know I wasn't part of it.-
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Agreed bestieIn post 335, Black wrote:
I don't think scum ever says this out loudIn post 323, ketchup777 wrote: Maybe I'm delaying the inevitable, but if Dann flips town then at least I know I wasn't part of it.-
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Why am I very townie?In post 371, Jacob24 wrote:
My list (for those who care):In post 368, ketchup777 wrote: TLDR:
Super sus: ProjectRy, Doctor Drew
Slightly sus: Psyche, OutWorldEr, Hu Tao
Slightly townie: Dannflor, Jacob24, DeltaWave
Very townie: Black, Luca Blight, me
no idea: Gypyx, iavh
there you go lots of juicy content for ya.
Super sus: ketchup, Dannflor
Slightly sus: iavh, ProjectRy, OutWorldEr, DeltaWave
Slightly townie: Black, Gypyx, Psyche
Very townie: Jacob24, Hu Tao, Drew, Luca-
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Stay the course of Dann. He's scum
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Dann is good at wiggling out of bad situations, but bug was scummy from their first post. Also with the meta involved.-
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In post 455, Black wrote:In post 452, Hu Tao wrote: Dann is good at wiggling out of bad situations,but bug was scummy from their first post. Also with the meta involved.I'm having a hard time believing you actually believe this. What is so scummy about bug's posts outside of Luca's meta case?First post was scripted scum
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Tbh that post just makes me Town read him moreIn post 502, Black wrote:
Every time you say something like this I dock like 1/4 of a townpoint from you. If you are town then you gotta stopIn post 484, ketchup777 wrote: I don't think I've been sus enough to merit three people targeting me, an innocent townie-
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Seems naturally townIn post 640, Doctor Drew wrote:
Luca ya, but what why catsup?In post 639, Hu Tao wrote: Luca is my biggest townread, followed by ketchup I think.-
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Who do you sr?In post 641, iamveryhappy wrote: for being based?-
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Girl pleaseIn post 694, Gypyx wrote: i think it's Luca / Hu Tao / Black
no cares and this just serves to get street cred points post game as a "aha i knew it"-
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Tbh I thought Luca would die. but I guess their meta was wrong so maybe that's why scum kept them alive. Still think they are town.In post 824, ketchup777 wrote:
I thought the dead would be one of me, black, hu tao or luca.In post 823, ketchup777 wrote:
holy crapIn post 821, Thomith wrote:iamveryhappy has died! They were aVanilla Townie.
DeltaWave has died! She was aVanilla Townie.
Day Two begins now.
I did not see either of these coming
hmmmmmmmmmmmm
is the only way for a second person to die a vigilante?-
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Fair shot tbh
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I'm going to assume at least one scum is on the wagon. I'll dive into that a bit later when I have time.
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We aren't looking for teams at the moment. We just need to find one scum to get things in the right direction. There is not a reason to look for more than 1 currently.In post 871, ProjEctRy wrote:
Is it not likely to be more than one?In post 863, Hu Tao wrote:I'm going to assume at least one scum is on the wagon. I'll dive into that a bit later when I have time.
From what I’ve grasped, Dann is quite an influential player and seems to be respected. Was he not one of the biggest town threats in this game and so would have been important for scum to get him out at the earliest opportunity?-
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Gypyx - Hmm
ProjEctRy - Sus
Luca Blight - Towny
Jacob24 - back and forth with this one. Unsure
ketchup777 - towny
Psyche - ???
Black - don't want today at the very least
Doctor Drew - town
OutWorldER - could be sus. Need to read more
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This seems like a town post. Unsure why there are votes on her at the momentIn post 917, Gypyx wrote:
well, i mean, one last thing before i go to bed, but that's some really strange wording i'm getting from you here, your concern isn't you being accused of being scum, or even me making a pretty outlandish accusation based on pretty much nothing (for now), it's the fact that i'm calling you two partners, in fact, what you're saying would still be if you were indeed scumIn post 903, ProjEctRy wrote:
No you didnt. We have to be partners to buss each other.In post 900, Gypyx wrote:
oooooo, did i get the two of you to start bussing each other, just like that?In post 898, ProjEctRy wrote:
Looking back this stands out to me.In post 277, Dannflor wrote: it kind of seems like you want to hurry up and kill me before i become a threat, black
i think you hold guilt in your heart project, a townie would be more affirmative about their innocence-
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Maybe we should vote off the wagon. Because scum shot on the wagon which was weird, especially since it was someone not many tr. Might mean they are comfortable with us voting in it.-
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VOTE: projecty-
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I don't like this post at all. They seem to be going at Gypyx for a poor reason.In post 930, ProjEctRy wrote:
I appreciate I’ve been accused of it myself, but for Gypyx being the 4th highest poster, a significant amount of her day-1 content was filler.In post 929, ketchup777 wrote: actually final thing before bed let's have an ISO count (accurate for the first 928 posts):
me: 113
Black : 100
Luca: 99
Gypyx: 92 (replaced in, first post was #294)
Drew: 51
Psyche: 48
OutWorldEr: 47
Hu Tao: 33
Jacob : 33
Project: 31
obviously looking at Delta and iavh, low posting is not necessarily mafia. but just gonna put this out there for future reference. (I swear I'm not trying to make myself look good I am aware I post too much please focus on the data as a whole and contemplate)
I think her day-1 stands in contrast to her day-2 opening. We’ve just lost three townies and it feels like she’s pushing hard to keep the momentum going. Although I’m conscious I could be mis-interpreting this because I’m on the end of it.
But I also don’t like her 583, walking away from the argument with Dann. Could read like she feels she’s overstepping and drawing too much attention so backs down.
VOTE: Gypyx
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Black what's your read on the delta kill?-
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Drew pls. Anyone else you scumread?-
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I'll catch up in a bit sorry-
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Okay letsIn post 989, Gypyx wrote: Ketchup's play is looking bad but i'm willing to let it slide cause of their tone for no
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I respect the effort. And you're probably town still. Who do you think would be my partner then?In post 1115, ketchup777 wrote: Sorry if I'm wrong, as you've been nothing but friendly to me / townreading me so far. But there's my case. let's see your fight-
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Ketchup, say I was revealed as town. How would that change your reads?-
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No, it was a question to see if you townreading me changed your reads at all. I agree that OWR could be scum here. I'm unsure on jacobIn post 1156, ketchup777 wrote:
I‘d still think OutWorld and Jacob likely scum, maybe one of Project/Black/Gypyx thrown in for funsies.In post 1155, Hu Tao wrote: Ketchup, say I was revealed as town. How would that change your reads?
I 95+% townread:
Me (it’s me), drew (vig), luca (analysis legend)
then the townleans
Black
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Project
Psyche
And then you three (Hu Tao/Jacob/OutWorldEr). I would be very surprised if at least 2 of you 3 are not scum.
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I actually think Jacob is an okay vote if I think about it. Out of those that were on the wagon, this is the best vote.
VOTE: Jacob
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I should say that I townread your conviction, and still do. I don't think scum would do that to start a gameIn post 1134, Luca Blight wrote: Regarding 1113, I think I've finally seen enough to hang my hat on Ketchup being town, which is a relief. I do think Hu Tao's implicit and unwavering sheeping of my push on Bugs/Dann was a bit strange, which is why I posed the question in 172, but I've been side-tracked by other players I've found overtly scummier to really put too much attention her way. I have a tendency to almost write such cocky play off as more likely town until later in the game, but I do think Ketchup makes a lot of good points in the first part of his post.
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I've also done something similar to that as town and been wrong so I understand-
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Dilutes? There is like 6 days left I think you gyp and Luca are town. So I don't think the wagon itself is bad but just misdirectedIn post 1164, ketchup777 wrote:
I am fully willing to vote Jacob here, but I don’t know which of you i want to vote off more, and unfortunately voting for Jacob dilutes the wagons at the momentIn post 1160, Hu Tao wrote: I actually think Jacob is an okay vote if I think about it. Out of those that were on the wagon, this is the best vote.
VOTE: Jacob
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Sure. So the way I see it, usually scum is on the wagon. So most of the time I want to vote on the wagon after day 1. So I started to look into the wagon
Dannflor (7): Hu Tao, Jacob24, Doctor Drew, Luca Blight, DeltaWave, ketchup777, Gypyx HAMMER
Hu Tao: I'm Hu Taown (from my point of view of course)
Jacob: has been kinda sus so it's a maybe
Doctor drew: he's confirmed town
Luca Blight : He's been town since day 1. I don't think as scum he would lead on a meta read on someone so strongly so I think he's just town here
Delta Wave: killed be scum, which is a bit suspicious. Usually scum kill off the wagon u less they thought he was PR but I don't see anything that shows any sorts, and to be honest he wasn't that towny at all either so it's a weird kill overall. This is where I am starting to think that scum might be majority off the wagon if they wanted to kill this slot here.
Ketchup: I think you're town based on your posts day 1 and your approach. You seem very genuine and I think I explained that day 1. I don't think your scumread on me is faked and I can see why you would think that way, even if it is wrong.
Gypyx: At first I was a bit on the fence when it came to her, but I saw some posts that I really liked so I think that she could actually be town here too.
So here I am with only 1 person that's on the wagon that I think is even remotely suspicious. And it's possible that even all 3 scum could be off the wagon.
This post also was a bit suspicious to me, especially when I started to think internally that scum could be off the wagon, they bring up more than 1 being on the wagon. It also felt like they were trying to set up multiple votes by that. It's also why I voted them.In post 871, ProjEctRy wrote:
Is it not likely to be more than one?In post 863, Hu Tao wrote:I'm going to assume at least one scum is on the wagon. I'll dive into that a bit later when I have time.
From what I’ve grasped, Dann is quite an influential player and seems to be respected. Was he not one of the biggest town threats in this game and so would have been important for scum to get him out at the earliest opportunity?
This is why I'm starting to think 2 or POSSIBLY 3 scum were off the wagon. Thoughts on this?
Your thoughts too gypyx since you're here-
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So if you're original premise is this, why vote me here?In post 1172, Gypyx wrote: i'm the original scum majority off wagon poster so you just know i said to myself "heck yeah" when reading this, or like, "Mais oui totalement" since i'm french
the Delta kill just never happens with a scum majority on the wagon, even if scum thought they *potentially* faced a PR here, better to let dayplay do it's thing rather than shrink the pool in which they actually are able to hide
i'd be cool with doing Black / Titus / Psyche today-
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VOTE: psyche
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Why did you ignore my long post when you asked for me to explainIn post 1181, ketchup777 wrote:
I want excitement as much as you do don’t get me wrong. But am conscious I maybe was too hasty on dann in part due to wanting some fun action. But I might need to go slower and go on evidence not drama. Although I like the stuff I found on hu Tao so am happy to stay like this (:In post 1170, Gypyx wrote: pushing for more apathy also isn't a great look ketchup-
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Sorry for being wrong? Not sure what you want me to sayIn post 1184, ketchup777 wrote:
Hmm. I need to delve into Dann‘s wagon more, maybe. This seems like an impressive post but also the Dann wagon was beginning to crumble at one point (after Psyche unvoted to take Dann down to e-4). You seemed to be very eager to get this wagon back on track.In post 1171, Hu Tao wrote:Sure. So the way I see it, usually scum is on the wagon. So most of the time I want to vote on the wagon after day 1. So I started to look into the wagon
Dannflor (7): Hu Tao, Jacob24, Doctor Drew, Luca Blight, DeltaWave, ketchup777, Gypyx HAMMER
So here I am with only 1 person that's on the wagon that I think is even remotely suspicious. And it's possible that even all 3 scum could be off the wagon.
This post also was a bit suspicious to me, especially when I started to think internally that scum could be off the wagon, they bring up more than 1 being on the wagon. It also felt like they were trying to set up multiple votes by that. It's also why I voted them.In post 871, ProjEctRy wrote:
Is it not likely to be more than one?In post 863, Hu Tao wrote:I'm going to assume at least one scum is on the wagon. I'll dive into that a bit later when I have time.
From what I’ve grasped, Dann is quite an influential player and seems to be respected. Was he not one of the biggest town threats in this game and so would have been important for scum to get him out at the earliest opportunity?
This is why I'm starting to think 2 or POSSIBLY 3 scum were off the wagon. Thoughts on this?
Will think about this properly tomorrow-
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In post 1184, ketchup777 wrote:In post 1171, Hu Tao wrote:Sure. So the way I see it, usually scum is on the wagon. So most of the time I want to vote on the wagon after day 1. So I started to look into the wagon
Dannflor (7): Hu Tao, Jacob24, Doctor Drew, Luca Blight, DeltaWave, ketchup777, Gypyx HAMMER
So here I am with only 1 person that's on the wagon that I think is even remotely suspicious. And it's possible that even all 3 scum could be off the wagon.