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Pine wrote:Extend vig request to include Gandalf, please. WIFOM on page 1 is unappealing.
Are you retarded?
I claim scum in about half of my games in RVS. It's my shtick. I wanted to do it in this one, so I found a way around the restriction. I wasn't going to let the rules affect my shtick. Joking around in RVS is NOT grounds for vigging, sorry.-
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SGRaaize wrote:There's nothing more painful than the start of a big Forum Mafia game, where everyone desperately tries to start a subject.
Someone must be sacrificed by looking scummy so we can start having reads on each other.
Who's up?
Well, I was taking on that load, but you can have it.
*hands over yoke*
I've trained for months though, so it might be a bit heavy. Try not to let it crush you.
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LynchMePls wrote:WrathChild wrote:Seriously, SGR is right. Not enough joking here.
UNVOTE x13, VOTE: Pine
Why so Serious?
Vote: WrathChild
For trying to dissuade votes based on actions and instead push for RVS. The faster RVS dies the better.
Actually, I've caught far more scum in RVS than out. And generally, I frown upon those who try to end it early. They tend to flip scum.-
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No, really, most games, when I catch scum I find them in the first few pages. You yourself have personal experience with my RVS skillz.
And Pine, actually no. I'm simply saying that scum can be found in RVS, and that I've seen scum try to push their way out of it. This is not coin flip. This is an occurrence that is connected to another occurrence, and I am thus saying that since one occurred, it is likely that the other is also occurring. i.e. LMP is scum trying to push out of RVS. That is the DEFINITION of logic.-
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Amrun wrote:
VOTE: IceyCupcake
They are either town or third-party that doesn't interfere with town, imho, and I'll give this a go and see what happens.
Wow. You acknowledge that they aren't harmful to town. And then you vote for them. Why the FUCK?
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InHim and LMP are still scum though. SGR is town.-
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inHimshallibe wrote:
I contest this modifier. I've been scum in your eyes for how long?gandalf5166 wrote:Amrun wrote:
VOTE: IceyCupcake
They are either town or third-party that doesn't interfere with town, imho, and I'll give this a go and see what happens.
Wow. You acknowledge that they aren't harmful to town. And then you vote for them. Why the FUCK?
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InHim and LMP arestillscum though. SGR is town.
FOS one way, vote another, FOS two more ways.
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A while. Just because I didn't say it doesn't mean it's not true.-
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LynchMePls wrote:If your argument is "LMP went out of his way to make it plain that stalling RVS is bad, thus he's trying to hard to look town" then I'm guilty of the first part and think your conclusion is stupid.
Nope. Your problem is that you tried to get out of RVS without any real reason(i.e. WHY ARE YOU FUCKING AROUND, LOOK AT HOW SCUMMY XXXX IS BEING). Also, getting a "scum caught for wrong reasons" vibe from this post.
LynchMePls wrote:You still don't have a good justification for why my doing it was BAD BAD BAD but Pine's wasn't.
Pine was actually being serious. You were just bitching about people joking around. There's a difference.-
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How would it have a drastic effect on the game? They would leave. We would GET RID of an anti town role with no negative effects. Plus if they have any teammates, they leave too. HOW IS THAT A BAD THING
And @Pine: You're misunderstanding my point(and maybe the rules). Their wincon involves receiving votes. How does that interfere with town's?-
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Pine wrote:Oh FFS. And if the goal of gathering votes is to set off a massive spell that kills everyone else? What then?
You seriously think that would happen? The mod would put an ability in that powerful? Hell, even the concept of an ability powered by votes is pretty ridiculous, even for an S_B game.-
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Pine wrote:I don't care. It's unknown, non-Town, and if it's that conditional, presumably powerful. I don't care to risk a Town victory on it.
You think that S_B would have her entire game hinge around how many votes a particular player got? No. They're a MINOR role if their abilities are that conditional. At MOST, they're an SK that gets a minor ability increase if they get a certain number of votes during the day.-
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Katy wrote:Pine is so emotional about this I almost feel he has to be town losing it. I think scum would have dropped it rather than make this point about Icey such a big issue and draw so much attention (and votes).
Untrue. Scum are much more likely to stick by their guns, because it's hard to fake a sincere post where you change your mind.
Soben wrote:Just had an extremely detailed chat with my other head about our reads and he now agrees that ISO #4 by ABR is actually an incredibly strong town-tell, we don't see him openely stating that he has 'multiple killing abilities" as mafia.
I definitely agree with this, especially since S_B doesn't give out fakeclaims.
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@Everyone: What is with the multiple vote, unvote, vote in the same post?
Read IC's first post.-
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@Zdenek: The fact that he's sticking to his guns beyond logic(yes, I think scum are more likely to do that than town) and yes, the fact, that he stopped posting when he was put under pressure. Scum are most likely to slip up when they're emotionally invested, so they have every motivation not to post when they start getting angry. I do NOT see why town would stop posting just because they were mad.-
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gandalf wrote:How would it have a drastic effect on the game? They would leave. We would GET RID of an anti town role with no negative effects. Plus if they have any teammates, they leave too. HOW IS THAT A BAD THING
Soben's point is that there could be negative effects - why are you assuming that there would be none?
I think Icey is either town or a cleric-like third party, by the way.
First of all, if you think Icey is town, why aren't you voting for them before you vote for other people. Secondly, THE RULES SAY SO. If a faction wins and their wincon doesn't directly conflict(which a wincon of getting voted for WOULD NOT) then the game gos on as normal.
Oh fuck, Pine's claim means he's almost certainly town. And if he's not, he probably just lost all of his abilities, so he's harmless.
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Snow_Bunny wrote:
-A friendly advice:Actually, two advices from your friendly mod. First, though you can paraphrase your role pm and make a claim, it is not advised to do so. Really, listen to me this time. Second, don't try to outguess me. You will fail so hard it won't be funny.
LMP, this is the rule you're looking for.
LynchMePls wrote:Has anyone ever been in an S_B game that had a modkill? If so, did S_B specifically say "this player is being mod killed" or was it like the death that just happened?
I have been modkilled in an S_B game(I called somebody a fucktard, IIRC)
I'm just thinking that there has to be some reason that this plan won't work. Personally, I think that it's probably caused by a role. So our fun will end once we kill that role....... I mean really, S_B or Andy would have noticed at some point.......-
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Amrun wrote:If it wasn't a modkill and all abilities resolve at the end of the phase, then what the hell was it?
A passive ability belonging to a role that kills anyone who claims their rolename, much like the one in the original where Kats immediately stole the abilities of anybody who claimed their rolename as well as any abilities they claimed the name of.-
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WrathChild wrote:SGRaaize wrote:WrathChild wrote:if that's what got Pine killed, so you're going to be pushing a lynch on someone who claims but doesn't get mod-killed probably based on coincidence more than evidence.
Of course that's what killed Pine.
Hey, WrathChild, you might want to read the thread slowly and carefully before bothering to share your opinion and/or vote. You are missing obvious details. Either that, or you're just reaching to try to lynch me.
You have no way of knowing what killed Pine. You're trying to outguess the mod.
Look at the flavor of Pine's death. Then look at the flavor of Andrius' death.-
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Beefster wrote:*Groan*
More votes on me.
Point taken. I am town though.Amrun wrote:Beefster, I don't care if you're lazy town. All lazy people are not town, and twisting posts to mean something you want them to, and then saying you didn't read when your case falls apart because it makes no sense, is not a towntell.
NOT being lazy is not a scumtell.
Oh, well thanks for that nugget of wisdom. I'll be unvoting..... Oh wait? What's that? You're not defending yourself at all?-
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