A Storm of Swords - Lay your swords down!

[DrippingGoofball]

Hi,

I will vig anyone that raises themselves beyond this post.

[DrippingGoofball]

Also, wagons on those that raise themselves are most welcome.

This one is because a second Percy vote is scummy, and a second self-raise scummier still.

VOTE: LMP

[DrippingGoofball]

Okay, unless we have masons out there, most townies know one person with their alignment. Scum know multiple people with their alignment. They can nominate a 'pro-town' scum and wagon them up to governor.

EXPLAIN THIS VERY INSTANT WHY IT IS ANTI-TOWN TO NOMINATE YOURSELF. DO IT.

It's schtoopid. Schtoopidity is anti-town.

[DrippingGoofball]

SCUM WILL SEEK TO RAISE OTHER SCUM.

What's the point of everybody raising themselves??????????

[DrippingGoofball]

Some people are really cranky.

[DrippingGoofball]

I will vig anyone that raises themselves beyond this post.

Explain why. Because you played Clash of Kings. So yeah, explain.

I have infinite multiple dayvig powers. I'm swinging Excalibur.

[DrippingGoofball]

Also Goofball vote is serious. I'm getting the feeling Goofball came swinging out day 1 with a gameplan and the self voting threw a spanner in the works.

Hahahahaha

The self-voting is a spinner for what plan? You're ridiculous.

OH nooooes! The townies are self-voting!!!! What are we gonna do? We can't put away our game-breaking townie-killing gameplan, we MUST FOIL THIS MADNESS!!!

Yeah.

[DrippingGoofball]

I dunno, it was serious enough you threatened to vig people. Everyone tell me if this looks like a joke post:

Oh yeah, everyone is scared I'm going to dayvig 6 players before page 3. That was real serious. And I'm so totally a dayvig, right? Cuz that's totally how I'd use the power, the logic is implacable. REAL CLAIM: Dayvig, yeah!

So, you tell me. What was so serious that you attempted to shortcut even any DISCUSSION of self-voting?

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah? Self-voting is something we should DISCUSS???????????????????? Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah? Let's all self-vote!!! YAY!!! Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah??????????????

[DrippingGoofball]

Of the 10 who first raised themselves 3 were scum. Of the 15 who first raised another 6 were scum. So a 30% rate on self-raises and 40% rate on non-self raises.

But is that significantly better than chance? Chance is 36% of players are expected to be scum in either group. So a 4-6% difference from chance with a sample size of 25 isn't significant enough to bother with the actual calculations to determine significance.

[DrippingGoofball]

Vote: DGB

I have to be in agreeance with GreyICE at the moment. You only know your alignment and no one else's alignment, so self raising is actually the only logical move at the moment.

Really? So, not raising isn't an option? You HAVE to self-vote? If you don't, you're illogical? Those self-votes don't all cancel each other out, right? And they're not an excuse for people not to commit, right? And they can't cause a winner with only 3 votes because everyone is busy self-voting, right?

[DrippingGoofball]

I think GreyICE is coked up.

[DrippingGoofball]

Yep, best idea is to not get your scumbuddies too involved, that way your lynch doesn't drag anyone else down. Sucks for you, of course, but it's smart play. Good signaling, we might be able to read it, but we have no idea who it's going to.

We're going to NK you tonight just to shut you up. We'll give the cop another night if we have to.

[DrippingGoofball]

Cool beans. I'm sure this will be great WIFOM when you do kill me. You said it in thread so the scum killed me to implicate you. Absolutely grade A vintage.

Let them.

OH wait

Do you

know

I'm town???

Did you just slip up?

[DrippingGoofball]

He said "when you do kill me." He thinks you're scum, will kill him tonight, then tomorrow say, 'scum killed me {you must mean 'GreyICE'} to implicate me based off of this post!'.

Ah, yeah, maybe. Well I'm going to NK him anyway so. You can lynch me today or tomorrow. If you lynch me tomorrow, then at least you'll have gotten rid of a major game annoyance.

[DrippingGoofball]

The Shadow1psc wagon is really lame. Everyone on it should feel like a lollipop snatcher.

[DrippingGoofball]

Blatant rolefishing.

Gratuitous wikitell detected.

[DrippingGoofball]

We're not policy lynching. We're lynching scum.

[DrippingGoofball]

Lol...what retarded options are these. A) We probably won't lynch scum D1.

We will lynch scum if we lynch Locke Lamora.

B) Why is killing an idiot today equate to not killing scum tomorrow?....

Enough mislynches will lose us the game.

C) Having idiots in endgame CAN equal a lose.

But that's the case in every game so....... and games are won.

Enough of that nonsense.

[DrippingGoofball]

Idiots aren't always alive till the end. And an idiot can get lucky. There no reason to leave it up to chance when we dont have to.

The most threatening players are NK'd first, the lambs finish last. That's the way it always is.

[DrippingGoofball]

So far:

Town:

DGB
Shadow
GreyICE - reluctantly.
Benmage - no scum in his right mind would come right out and suggest we mow down a dozen VIs to make up for the scum NK'ing our best players.

More data required:

Chesskid3
diddin
Nexus
Benmage
Percy
MagnaOfIllusion
Danakillsu
Hasdgfas - could be faking the post restriction. I could see him do that.
LynchMePls
Xtoxm
Raivann
Zdenek
Magua
Zoraster
Twilight Sparkle
Mikujin
20) Song of ice and fire
Feysal
Kast
Bunnylover

Scum:

Locke Lamora
xvart - just to make him nervous

[DrippingGoofball]

One of these players is scum:
Hasdgfas, zoraster, Twilight Sparkle, Mikujin

Also, I forgot about LMP, it's fixed now.

I may have missed some lurkers.

Town:

DGB
Shadow
GreyICE - reluctantly.
Benmage - no scum in his right mind would come right out and suggest we mow down a dozen VIs to make up for the scum NK'ing our best players.

More data required:

Chesskid3
diddin
Nexus
Benmage
MagnaOfIllusion
Danakillsu
Hasdgfas - could be faking the post restriction. I could see him do that.
Raivann
Zdenek
Magua
Zoraster
Twilight Sparkle
Song of ice and fire
Kast
Bunnylover

Lurkers:

Xtoxm
Feysal
Percy

Scum:

LynchMePls
Locke Lamora
xvart - just to make him nervous

[DrippingGoofball]

Holy shit, it posts content! And decent content.

Unvote

One of these players is scum:
Hasdgfas, zoraster, Twilight Sparkle, Mikujin

Spoiler: If you're gonna give me that buffet, it's definitely Zoraster by about a dozen miles.

I dunno, it could be restriction-faking hascow, or late jumper Mikujin.

[DrippingGoofball]

$10 says Hasdgfas is faking his post restriction. It's cute, but it's also nonsensical from a setup POV. Undecided on scumminess; not enough information yet.

Oh, it's scummy. It's scummy alright.

The more I think about it.

I'm going to have to shove him in my scumlist unless he fails his restriction and something happens.

Once, he faked a crippling restriction where he claimed to gain powers by following it. He was lying scum, if memory serves. It was an old theme game, I doubt I could find it though. I'm not 100% sure, but that's my recollection.

Yep. He'll be in the scum list in my next update.

[DrippingGoofball]

One of these players is scum:
Hasdgfas, zoraster, Twilight Sparkle, Mikujin

Town:

DGB
Shadow
GreyICE - reluctantly.
Benmage - no scum in his right mind would come right out and suggest we mow down a dozen VIs to make up for the scum NK'ing our best players.
Raivann - I'm going to take his word for it.
Chesskid3 - Oh, alright.

More data required:

diddin
Nexus
Benmage
MagnaOfIllusion
Zdenek
Magua
Zoraster
Twilight Sparkle
Song of ice and fire
Kast
Bunnylover

Lurkers:

Xtoxm
Feysal
Percy

Scum:

hascow
LynchMePls
Locke Lamora
xvart - just to make him nervous

[DrippingGoofball]

One of these players is scum:
Hasdgfas, zoraster, Twilight Sparkle, Mikujin

Town:

DGB
Shadow
GreyICE - reluctantly. Please someone, vig this townie.
Benmage - no scum in his right mind would come right out and suggest we mow down a dozen VIs to make up for the scum NK'ing our best players.
Raivann - I'm going to take his word for it.
Chesskid3 - Oh, alright.
Magua

More data required:

danakillsu
diddin
Nexus
Benmage
MagnaOfIllusion
Zdenek
Zoraster
Twilight Sparkle
Song of ice and fire
Kast

Lurkers:

Xtoxm
Feysal
Percy

Scum:

Bunnylover - Cuz chesskid sayz so
hascow
LynchMePls
Locke Lamora
xvart - just to make him nervous

==============

In other news, the profanity is irritating.

[DrippingGoofball]

You want a potential vig to kill someone you believe to be town over someone you believe to be scum?

FoS

He's

that

annoying.

[DrippingGoofball]

DGB OUTRIGHT STATED that she thinks GreyICE is town, yet still wants him vigged. Benmage doesn't necessarily believe all the VIs he wants to lynch are town, he's just saying they're hard to read as town or scum.

So, you think that, phrasing it the way I did, I expect the vig to listen to me, rather than himself?

Answer yes or no.

[DrippingGoofball]

DGB OUTRIGHT STATED that she thinks GreyICE is town, yet still wants him vigged. Benmage doesn't necessarily believe all the VIs he wants to lynch are town, he's just saying they're hard to read as town or scum.

So, you think that, phrasing it the way I did, I expect the vig to listen to me, rather than himself?

Answer yes or no.

yes. You're well known on this site and your opinion is very influential to people.

But GreyICE is on my town list. You're expecting that a vig will interpret the mixed message of "vig GreyICE-town because he's irritating" as "vig GreyICE?"

See, I would think the vig, or anyone, would think "haha, yes, he's irritating." And vig someone else of their choosing.

[DrippingGoofball]

Plus I'd HARDLY classify GreyICE as a VI. He's annoying, yes, but he's no VI.

SHOW ME where I said GreyICE is a VI.

[DrippingGoofball]

Scum is concentrated here, this list of 8 players has at least 1.75 scums, 3.50 if we have two scum factions.:

Noob-(townie/scumbus)-easy-wagon: Hasdgfas, zoraster,

Twilight Sparkle

, Mikujin
Annoying-townie-easy-wagon: diddin,

LynchMePls

, Nexus,

Shadow1psc

Twilight Sparkle is prob town. If they AIM or whatever to share ideas, they're town. When you're scum, there aren't that many thoughts you need to share that couldn't be handled on a more leisurely platform like a good old QT, PM, or snailmail.

I'd love to remove other players from this list, but I can't. It's a pretty sketchy posse.

After TS is taken off the roster, the chance of hitting scum is 50%.

I'm going to put Shadow in a krap kolor because though he may be bus'ed, he's leaning town.

LMP is on my scumlist already.

[DrippingGoofball]

Noob-(townie/scumbus)-easy-wagon: Hasdgfas, zoraster, Twilight Sparkle, Mikujin
Annoying-townie-easy-wagon: diddin, LynchMePls, Nexus, Shadow1psc

Town:

DGB
Shadow
GreyICE - reluctantly. Please someone, vig this townie.
Benmage - no scum in his right mind would come right out and suggest we mow down a dozen VIs to make up for the scum NK'ing our best players.
Raivann - I'm going to take his word for it.
Chesskid3 - Oh, alright.
Magua
MagnaOfIllusion
Twilight Sparkle

More data required:

danakillsu
diddin
Nexus
Benmage
Zdenek
Zoraster
Song of ice and fire
Kast

Lurkers:

Xtoxm
Feysal
Percy

Scum:

Bunnylover - Cuz chesskid sayz so
hascow
LynchMePls
Locke Lamora
xvart

[DrippingGoofball]

DGB - why do you consistently have me in your (small) town read list, yet keep entertaining the idea that I may also be scum? Which is it?

This is mafia we're playing.

[DrippingGoofball]

Nice choice, hascow is probscum. That old role might be the inspiration that gave him the idea that he could get away with a lot of nonsense by faking a post restriction.

I WANT TO SEE

HASCOW

BREAK THE POST RESTRICTION IN HIS NEXT POST.

[DrippingGoofball]

One of these players is scum:
Hasdgfas, zoraster, Twilight Sparkle, Mikujin

DGB - what was the basis of one of these people being scum? Was it based on a wagon somewhere along the way?

There be scumz on that there wagonz. Dat's the theery, young'un.

[DrippingGoofball]

Hascow, you couldn't possibly have missed this:

Nice choice, hascow is probscum. That old role might be the inspiration that gave him the idea that he could get away with a lot of nonsense by faking a post restriction.

I WANT TO SEE

HASCOW

BREAK THE POST RESTRICTION IN HIS NEXT POST.

Break it, break it now. And make it worthwhile.

[DrippingGoofball]

DGB STFU. If it was true you're asking for a neutral survivor modkill...goddamn.

Who sayz? Mods don't modkill for a post restriction fail.

[DrippingGoofball]

Who sayz? Mods don't modkill for a post restriction fail.

If there is no public reprimand from the mod...

Well we don't know, do we?

HE MUST DO EEEEEEEEEEEEET

[DrippingGoofball]

this is so not in the spirit of the game

'Tis

[DrippingGoofball]

But I believe hascow is faking the restriction.

[DrippingGoofball]

@DGB

- are you sure enough that Hascow is scum that you would be willing to be lynched tomorrow if he flips town?

YES.

[DrippingGoofball]

Your case is full-retard,

Scuse me?????

[DrippingGoofball]

I feel worse about Hascow - I believe it was answered that

he doesn't have a list of 'mod approved' actions

in his post restriction, and if that's the case, he's being intentionally unhelpful in some of his posts where he could make more sense.

THANK YOU

It's because it's FAKE.

[DrippingGoofball]

Your case is full-retard,

Scuse me?????

Your. Case. Is. Full. Retard.

I'm sorry, but I think you're getting carried away with the insulting people.

[DrippingGoofball]

hasdgfas' posts make my head hurt. Specifically #281.

*raises eyebrow*

*points at Magua*

*points at self*

------------------------------------------------
VOTE: Xtoxm

*points at Xtoxm*
*points at mouth*

*spreads hands wide*

This is a great example of Hascow just being confusing, and why it would have been pertinent to establish this sooner; There seems to be a lot of canned response going on here. Bolding for 'wtf does that even mean'. You're either really into your character, to the point of being unhelpful, or you're really into your fake claim.

I don't think I need to quote DGB's posts asking Cow to break his restriction, those are all pretty self explanatory on the scum scale.

And notice how hascow is cowering under a bail of hay and barely participating since I showed up at the farm driving the slaughterhouse truck.

Fire up the BBQ, we're having steak.

[DrippingGoofball]

@DGB-
Do you actually expect Cow will break his PR? If not, how does voting/pressuring him accomplish anything?

Well, he's scum faking a post restriction, what do you want me to do??? Let it pass???????

[DrippingGoofball]

And I'm getting ignored by hasscum.

[DrippingGoofball]

Hascow is making it up as he's going along... I think he realized that the lack of internal consistency of the PR is damning and he doesn't know how to get out of it, he can only slip deeper... think about it, if there was a rule like "verb, prep, clause" hascow could say a heck of a lot more than what he's saying now.

[DrippingGoofball]

DGB - at this point I tend to agree with you about Hascow faking the post restriction, but I do have my reservations. It sounds to me you have zero reservations so why aren't you voting for him?

So many people seem to defend him, or be fooled by it. I think this little problem that is hascow's fake restriction is more likely to be resolved at night.

[DrippingGoofball]

Ok, so DGB just focussing on the Hascow is similar to his only focussing on GreyICE earlier. This, to me, is scummy.

Oh really.

It wasn't GreyICE focusing on me, instead???

And then how do you explain how I got, through the thick fog of his shenanigans and a vigorous wagon forming, a TOWN read off GreyICE, and got that town read earlier than everyone else?

How is this tunneling? A player aggressively tunnels on me, flips flops a few times with a lot of drama, I call him town, that's ME tunneling?

Will you please stop tunnelling on Hascow. It seems to me he won't break his restriction. I don't think he'll be the lynch. Let's stop this now.

Who I choose to tunnel on is my business, and you don't tell me who I should suspect and pressure. Presently I think I'm tunneling on scum. You're voting a townie.

[DrippingGoofball]

I dislike the idea DGB is pushing, I think it's a pick at perceived low-hanging-fruit (so to speak).

The guy with a post-restriction that everyone is mollycoddling is the low-hanging fruit? Mmmmmmmmmm from my perspective I feel like I have found the hardest-to-lynch scumbag ever.

Remind me of faking a post restriction next time.

*drools abundantly*

*climbs curtains*

*swings from chandelier*

*falls into a triple catwheel*

*scratches armpits*

[DrippingGoofball]

I know you have, but a lynch would be more efficient.

[DrippingGoofball]

They're probably both scum.

[DrippingGoofball]

Gonna help the scum bus.

VOTE: Locke Lamora

[DrippingGoofball]

This is pretty self-centered I know.

But I'm sensing more suspicion in this game than I usually get on Day 1, like,

a lot more

.

I suppose I don't get that much suspicion in early game, probably because scum only very rarely lets me live beyond day 3, sometimes PR claims or other very aggressive players get priority over me for the NK. I'm a flash in the pan in most games. In King of Hearts (an exception to this) where the scum neglected to NK me fast enough, there was much regret afterward.

I think some of that suspicion is players legitimately not familiar with me; but I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of it was manufactured by scum trying to make sure I don't become Governor. I have a pretty solid history with reading townies with accuracy.

[DrippingGoofball]

OR MAYBE YOUR PLAY HAS BEEN TOTAL AND COMPLETE

SHIT

AND YOUR RECORD OF CATCHING SCUM IS CUTE AND ALL, BUT YOU AIN'T DOING MUCH OF IT HERE.

I KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AGGRESSIVE PLAY AND SHIT PLAY, AND THIS IS THE LATTER.

Mod: replace me please.

Kirk out.

[DrippingGoofball]

Don't replace out because of one douchebag, DGB. I haven't decided on your alignment yet, but the game is less fun without you.

I can't make it fun for you, if it's not fun for me. I won't post again, I already PM'd the mod with apologies.

[DrippingGoofball]

Urgh, back to slash and dash.

I need to recollect my thoughts on this game.

[DrippingGoofball]

Zor-Raivann "FOS Buddy Vote Townie" makes much more sense to me.

I like THAT, too, I just didn't notice it - I was somewhat, er, distracted.

Easy solution is to lynch zoraster.

[DrippingGoofball]

MoI is scummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah he's not.

[DrippingGoofball]

ZOMG the diabolical DTMaster is here -

VOTE: zoraster

[DrippingGoofball]

DGB - you didn't unvote, also, I know you've been talking about a zoraster lynch and have been sidetracked by grey, but why the sudden change off LL?

I don't need to unvote.

The LL wagon is not going anywhere. Had the atmosphere in the game been more normal earlier on, I probably would have voted someone else at some point. I haven't paid LL attention at all for a while anyway.

[DrippingGoofball]

I'm relatively certain this is what hasdgfas is saying (see what I did there?) anyways.

Maybe he's telling us he has a factional NK and would like some PR claims out there before the lynch

[DrippingGoofball]

I shall now shut up about hascow.

[DrippingGoofball]

Feysal is town.

[DrippingGoofball]

Raivann is exhibiting typical townie thought processes.

[DrippingGoofball]

@DGB: Screenshots or it didn't happen.

Can't find it anymore, maybe I was reading another player's post?

[DrippingGoofball]

Noob-(townie/scumbus)-easy-wagon: Hasdgfas-TOWN,

zoraster-LYNCHER

, Twilight Sparkle, Mikujin
Annoying-townie-easy-wagon:

diddin-SCUM

, LynchMePls, Nexus, Shadow1psc
Zoraster (13) MagnaofIllusion, DrippinGoofball-TOWN, Kast, LynchMePls, Raivann, Magua, Zdenek, Benmage, Ghostlin, Twilight Sparkle,

diddin-SCUM

,

chesskid3-TOWN

, Shadow1psc
Mikujin-DISTANCING WAGON (3) Danakillsu, Locke Lamora, Thor665
Raivann (I suspect all townies voting here) (5) Feysal,

Zoraster-LYNCHER

, Bunnylover, xvart, Nexus

Town:

DGB
Shadow
GreyICE/DTMaster - reluctantly. Please someone, vig this townie.
Benmage - no scum in his right mind would come right out and suggest we mow down a dozen VIs to make up for the scum NK'ing our best players.
Raivann - I'm going to take his word for it.

Chesskid3-TOWN - Oh, alright.

Magua
MagnaOfIllusion
Twilight Sparkle
hascow

Outlook brightening:

diddin-SCUM

Nexus
Benmage
Zdenek

Zoraster-LYNCHER

Song of ice and fire/Thor
Kast
xvart
Feysal

Outlook darkening:

danakillsu
Bunnylover

Lurkers:

Xtoxm-SCUM

Percy/Ghostlin

Scum:

LynchMePls
Locke Lamora
Mikujin

=====================

One of Twilight Sparkle and Mikujin are scum. I put my money on Mikujin.
One of these three is scum: Danakillsu, Locke Lamora, Thor665. I put my money on Locke Lamora.

Mikujin or Lock Lamora would make excellent lynches for today.

[DrippingGoofball]

@ Magua - we're not raising a scumbaggo today.

Mikujin

[DrippingGoofball]

GreyICE was a townread, but DTMaster, meh, not so much at this point.

I have a gigantic, rock-solid town read on DTMaster. It's not moving.

[DrippingGoofball]

VOTE: Mikujin

[DrippingGoofball]

Un whut? You don't want to select a scum-bag to Strip of their Vote, and Night Powers, and access to their Scum QT???

Is that what raising does? Never mind then.

[DrippingGoofball]

One of Twilight Sparkle and Mikujin are scum. I put my money on Mikujin.
One of these three is scum: Danakillsu, Locke Lamora, Thor665. I put my money on Locke Lamora.

Mikujin or Lock Lamora would make excellent lynches for today.

What say you to Zoraster being a lyncher? Do you think zoraster's target would be a scum member? I would lean believing that LL is town right now based on this information.

It's not impossible, but I agree, I need to downgrade my suspicion.

[DrippingGoofball]

I'd like a Setael lynch. Why are we abandoning this ship?

[DrippingGoofball]

Twilight Sparkle is town.

[DrippingGoofball]

DrippingGoofball is scum. Are you ever actually going to clarify why you downgraded your suspicion of me at the point you did and not after Zoraster's claim and flip?

I failed to put two and two together.

[DrippingGoofball]

Why aren't we lynching Bunnylover?

[DrippingGoofball]

We can raise "lower" someone else.

VOTE: Bunnylover

[DrippingGoofball]

I dunno. Feysal always seems scummy and gets lynched early. He's always sounding tentative and driving people to sharpen the guillotine. It's hard for me to get worked up over a Feysal lynch. I look at my watch, "oh, it must by tiem."

[DrippingGoofball]

@DGB: Why shouldn't we lynch you?

I can't make a case for my continued survival.

What have you done this day?

Nothing.

Why have you been lurking this entire time? Why haven't you been paying attention and you will know why I'm not getting lynched "Today"?

I was engrossed in another game. It looks like I missed something important, though.

[DrippingGoofball]

I have a gigantic, rock-solid town read on DTMaster. It's not moving.

I reiterate the above. Also, Benmage is 100% town. But seriously, I think everyone knows that.

[DrippingGoofball]

TOWN
Benmage

DTMaster

MagnaOfIllusion
Hasdgfas
Locke Lamora
Magua
Kast
xvart
Danakillsu
Raivann
Shadow1psc
Nexus
Setael
Zdenek
Thor665
DrippingGoofball
Ghostlin
Twilight Sparkle
Bunnylover
Feysal
SCUM

The middle portion of the list is full of nullreads, so its exact ordering is a bit fuzzy.

Corrected. DTMaster is as townie as Benmage.

[DrippingGoofball]

Actually, reading his last post, Feysal is town.

[DrippingGoofball]

UPDATE:

The wagons:

Noob-(townie/scumbus)-easy-wagon: Hasdgfas-TOWN,

zoraster-LYNCHER

, Twilight Sparkle, Mikujin
Annoying-townie-easy-wagon:

diddin-SCUM

, LynchMePls, Nexus, Shadow1psc
Zoraster (13) MagnaofIllusion, DrippinGoofball-TOWN, Kast, LynchMePls, Raivann, Magua, Zdenek, Benmage-TOWN, Ghostlin, Twilight Sparkle,

diddin-SCUM

,

chesskid3-TOWN

, Shadow1psc
Mikujin-DISTANCING WAGON (3) Danakillsu, Locke Lamora, Thor665
Raivann (I suspect all townies voting here) (5) Feysal,

Zoraster-LYNCHER

, Bunnylover, xvart, Nexus
Feysal

One of Twilight Sparkle and Mikujin/Setael are scum. I put my money on

Mikujin/Setael

.
One of these three is scum: Danakillsu, Locke Lamora, Thor665. If LL is town, that means dana or

Thor

are scum.

Town:

DGB
Shadow
GreyICE/DTMaster - DTMaster is town because the mod told me so last night, how 'bout that, pussycat?
Benmage - iz town.
Raivann - I'm going to take his word for it.

Chesskid3-TOWN - Oh, alright.

Magua
MagnaOfIllusion
Twilight Sparkle
hascow

Outlook brightening:

diddin-SCUM

Locke Lamora - According to some, I should have him on the town list but I already forget why.
Nexus
Zdenek - I should look at this one again.

Zoraster-LYNCHER

Kast
xvart

Outlook darkening:

Song of ice and fire/Thor - to be honest, I haven't a clue, but he's getting a lot of flack.
danakillsu
Bunnylover

Lurkers:

Xtoxm-SCUM

Percy/Ghostlin

Scum:

LynchMePls
Mikujin/Setael

=====================

I'll update again soon I'm sure, I'm a little behind in this game. I shall ketchup.

vote: Setael
Raise: Thor

[DrippingGoofball]

Why do you agree with me so much if you think I'm scum?

Maybe you're bus'ing, but more likely, you're confused by my more dynamic read of "outlook darkening" which is not the same as "leaning scum." I should probably change that approach, since we're further into the game. Next time, I will.

[DrippingGoofball]

Setael should have 15x more votes.

My "nominate" wasn't counted. Let's try again.

Nominate: Thor

[DrippingGoofball]

I'd love to hear your reasons DGB.

Wagon analysis.

I guess I'll have to put LMP in the town category in my next update.

[DrippingGoofball]

@DGB So this:

One of Twilight Sparkle and Mikujin/Setael are scum. I put my money on Mikujin/Setael.

This is why you're absolutely confident I'm scum and I need 15x more votes? You're hiding behind a weak argument

Yep, I think that sums it up nicely, except that I consider it a very strong argument, and I quite expect that Setael-scum would have to disagree with me in the fulfillment of her wincon.

What do you think of feysal?

Already answered.

Why did you vote bunnylover for about 2 minutes?

I changed my mind quickly.

You said this:

Actually, reading his last post, Feysal is town.

What exactly in his post made you think he's town?

He sounds honest.

Why is DTMaster town? You declaring it is so does not help any of the rest of us read you or them.

I already said, I hold this information straight from the mod. DTM is town. Also, Benmage. I know Benmage is town because the mod said so.

Can we lynch Setael??? She's scum, if we don't lynch her, she's going to kill us all one by one, at night.

The mod never told me that Setael is town.

[DrippingGoofball]

I BEG YOU

We need to lynch Setael.

[DrippingGoofball]

The mod never told me that Setael is town.

They told me. So vote elsewhere.

Can I totally trust you with this?

[DrippingGoofball]

Because I'm not joking about the mod telling me sekrits.

[DrippingGoofball]

Because I'm not joking about the mod telling me sekrits.

Faraday is my personal fan clubs #2 Fan. Beat out only by my #1 fan Seacore. You can definitely trust me.

K

UNVOTE: unvote

[DrippingGoofball]

Twilight Sparkle (5) MagnaofIllusion,

Benmage

, Raivann, Zdenek,

Hasdgfas

Bunnylover (3) Ghostlin, xvart, Danakillsu
danakillsu (1) Kast
Ghostlin (1) DTMaster
Thor665 (2) Shadow1psc, Nexus
Feysal (3)

LynchMePls, Setael, Locke Lamora

Zdenek (3)

Twilight Sparkle

, Bunnylover, Feysal
Nexus (1) Magua

Feysal wagon is full of wholesome townie goodness.

VOTE: Feysal

[DrippingGoofball]

Sine Twilight Sparkle is town, there is one scum here:

Twilight Sparkle (5) MagnaofIllusion,

Benmage

, Raivann, Zdenek,

Hasdgfas

I just want to remind everyone.

[DrippingGoofball]

Dearest Kast.

Have you read my posts? Benmage and DTMaster are TOWN. You don't need to bother iso'ing them or analyzing their posts. They're town.

Town.

Town town town town town town town.

Can I be any clearer?

[DrippingGoofball]

My preferred lynch is Twilight Sparkle.
UNVOTE: Nexus
VOTE: Twilight Sparkle

TS is town, why don't you let the scum NK them, they have been very active, clever and useful. Lynching TS is doing the scum's job.

[DrippingGoofball]

So your read on DGB was leaning town but you weren't convinced by what you were perceiving as a soft claim at a PR. What was your motivation for stating that? Does DGB often, as a protown player, pretend she's a PR when she's not? I don't understand why you'd say that.?

I do sometimes pretend I'm a PR when I'm vanilla, most notably and hilariously, in ongoing game, so don't ask.

[DrippingGoofball]

UPDATE:

The wagons:

Noob-(townie/scumbus)-easy-wagon: Hasdgfas-TOWN,

zoraster-LYNCHER

, Twilight Sparkle, Mikujin
Annoying-townie-easy-wagon:

diddin-SCUM

, LynchMePls, Nexus, Shadow1psc
Zoraster (13) MagnaofIllusion, DrippinGoofball-TOWN, Kast, LynchMePls, Raivann, Magua, Zdenek, Benmage-TOWN, Ghostlin, Twilight Sparkle,

diddin-SCUM

,

chesskid3-TOWN

, Shadow1psc
Mikujin-DISTANCING WAGON (3) Danakillsu, Locke Lamora, Thor665
Raivann (I suspect all townies voting here) (5) Feysal,

Zoraster-LYNCHER

, Bunnylover, xvart, Nexus
Feysal

One of Twilight Sparkle and Mikujin/Setael are scum. I put my money on

Mikujin/Setael

. But apparently, according to Benmage-town, Setael is town - it stretches credulity, though.
One of these three is scum: Danakillsu, Locke Lamora, Thor665. If LL is town, that means dana or

Thor

are scum.

. Dana is now town, so that means Thor NEEDS ROPE.

Town:

DGB
Shadow
GreyICE/DTMaster - DTMaster is town because the mod told me so last night, how 'bout that, pussycat?
Benmage - iz town.

Chesskid3-TOWN - Oh, alright.

Magua
MagnaOfIllusion
Twilight Sparkle
hascow
LynchMePls
Nexus
LMP
danakillsu

Not particularly bothersome:

diddin-SCUM

Locke Lamora - According to some, I should have him on the town list but I already forget why.

Zoraster-LYNCHER

Raivann - I'm going to take his word for it. Ooops not anymore.

Worrisome:

Zdenek - I should look at this one again.
Kast - POE
xvart - POE
Song of ice and fire/Thor - to be honest, I haven't a clue, but he's getting a lot of flack.
Bunnylover

Lurkers:

Xtoxm-SCUM

Scum:

Percy/Ghostlin
Mikujin/Setael

=====================

I'll update again soon I'm sure, I'm a little behind in this game. I shall ketchup.

[DrippingGoofball]

DAMMIT, forgot Feysal.

Town:

DGB
Shadow
GreyICE/DTMaster - DTMaster is town because the mod told me so last night, how 'bout that, pussycat?
Benmage - iz town.

Chesskid3-TOWN - Oh, alright.

Magua
MagnaOfIllusion
Twilight Sparkle
hascow
LynchMePls
Nexus
LMP
danakillsu
Feysal

Not particularly bothersome:

diddin-SCUM

Locke Lamora - According to some, I should have him on the town list but I already forget why.

Zoraster-LYNCHER

Raivann - I'm going to take his word for it. Ooops not anymore.

Worrisome:

Zdenek - I should look at this one again.
Kast - POE
xvart - POE
Song of ice and fire/Thor - to be honest, I haven't a clue, but he's getting a lot of flack.
Bunnylover

Lurkers:

Xtoxm-SCUM

Scum:

Percy/Ghostlin
Mikujin/Setael

[DrippingGoofball]

We'd prefer a Zdenek lynch to Feysal. We'll obviously lynch Feysal at deadline if needed.

Me too.

VOTE: Zdenek

[DrippingGoofball]

@LMP-
In case you were asking where I see Raivann using his free pass to rolefish, it's here, then after MoI finally calls him on it he plays dumb (while posting something random that may have been more fishing), then acts like nothing happened.

His votes have also been almost exclusively sheeping & buddying

with people who don't suspect him

. Even his Thor case is finally dropped when people start suggesting 1 of Thor/Raivann is likely scum; at which point he completely drops Thor from must be lynched to null.

Where did I get the impression that LMP had to be town??? I second guess that, now.

[DrippingGoofball]

@LMP-
In case you were asking where I see Raivann using his free pass to rolefish, it's here, then after MoI finally calls him on it he plays dumb (while posting something random that may have been more fishing), then acts like nothing happened.

His votes have also been almost exclusively sheeping & buddying

with people who don't suspect him

. Even his Thor case is finally dropped when people start suggesting 1 of Thor/Raivann is likely scum; at which point he completely drops Thor from must be lynched to null.

Where did I get the impression that LMP had to be town??? I second guess that, now.

Never mind, the case was against Raivann, not LMP.

[DrippingGoofball]

...but I do have the potential of confirming power claims by other people (DGB comes to mind immediately).

Why would you waste your time with that? Watcher is for finding who targeted the NK victim.

I don't have a PR, someone chose me to get their result.

[DrippingGoofball]

I'm violently opposed to the Feysal lynch. I think he's town.

[DrippingGoofball]

-Which is better, No Lynch or Mislynch?

No lynch.

We can lynch Thor.

[DrippingGoofball]

unvote, vote Feysal

I'm not happy with this hammer, at all.

I'm not happy with Kast.

[DrippingGoofball]

#1339 - DGB defends me with meta, but from where? She has never actually seen me lynched.
#1347 - DGB gives me a town read.

I have seen you lynched, some time ago. And meta: we'll talk post game.

#1393 -

DGB votes me. Despite having a town read on me. Because, as she says, the wagon on me is "full of wholesome townie goodness". My wagon consists of LynchMePls and Setael, both of them her scum reads until a few posts ago, and Locke, who she called scum until she was confronted with that not making sense. What the hell?

BenMage assured me that Setael is town, I have to believe him.

When I suggest using my power to confirm her claim, DGB claims having been told the result from someone else's action.

Backtracking? No, it's the truth, I want to draw the NK, but not the lynch.

So, DGB would have us believe that someone investigated Benmage and DTMaster in one night, and sent both results to her. Right.

Both are different. I could be, say, Benmage's mason, and got a hypocop result on DTM.

[DrippingGoofball]

I have never been lynched as town.

You sure about that? I may be mixing you up with someone else then.

[DrippingGoofball]

I'm still alive after stating that the mod tells me player's alignments at night? Go figure.

Sadly, the mod was silent.

[DrippingGoofball]

DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT My reads are TERRIBLE. And I'm still alive. There's a scum in my townie town town list.

Town:

DGB
Shadow
GreyICE/DTMaster - DTMaster is town because the mod told me so last night, how 'bout that, pussycat?
Benmage - iz town.

Chesskid3-TOWN - Oh, alright.

Magua

MagnaOfIllusion

Twilight Sparkle
hascow
LynchMePls
Nexus
LMP
danakillsu

Feysal

Not particularly bothersome:

diddin-SCUM

Locke Lamora - According to some, I should have him on the town list but I already forget why.

Zoraster-LYNCHER

Raivann - I'm going to take his word for it. Ooops not anymore.

Worrisome:

Zdenek - I should look at this one again.
Kast - POE

xvart - POE

Song of ice and fire/Thor - to be honest, I haven't a clue, but he's getting a lot of flack.
Bunnylover

Lurkers:

Xtoxm-SCUM

Scum:

Percy/Ghostlin
Mikujin/Setael[/quote]

[DrippingGoofball]

DGB, is your "Benmage is town" mod-confirmed like your "DTMaster is town"?

Both are confirmed.

[DrippingGoofball]

Frankly, I thought everyone knew that Benmage is town. As in, knows it from the mod.

[DrippingGoofball]

I was hoping Zdenek would claim something that outright contradicted and revealed him. Given the number of NKs and already having two claimed/demonstrated vigs; kill immune seems leaps and bounds more a scum ability than a town one.

QFT

[DrippingGoofball]

So if I trust DGB that would mean popsofc is town. Do you still say TS is town DGB?

DTMaster. I believe replaced by pops, right?

[DrippingGoofball]

who's modconfirmed town and who's just DGB-thinks-this-person's-town-because-she's-never-wrong

BOTH Bemmage and yourself are MOD-confirmed town, for the millionth time.

[DrippingGoofball]

CORRECTION

MOD FRIKKIN CONFIRMED TOWNIES SO READ DOESN'T FRIKKIN MATTER

5)

Benmage

: Liked early D2 taking charge. Liked "no lynching Raivann/BunnyLover." Liked him voting Twilight Sparkle. Didn't like the fall-off when the Feysal/Zdenek wagons began to form. Don't have anything yet today to go by. HOWEVER, mod-confirmed town, so firmly on the no-lych list.
21)

GreyICE DTMaster popsofctown

: Initial GreyICE townread continues to go downhill. HOWEVER, mod-confirmed town, so firmly on the no-lych list.

The dreaded "Meh" category
9) Danakillsu: If he's scum, he's a goon.
18) Twilight Sparkle: Tomorrow I'll know for sure on this one.
20) Song of ice and fire Thor665: Despite my proposal of marriage, may still be scum. Or may not be. I dunno. Love blinds.
22) DrippingGoofball: Absolutely impossible for me to read. But, (and God do I put a lot of store by this) diddin's only townread D1. Scum buddy up to townies, not to partners. So that keeps her out of the 'scum' bucket.

[DrippingGoofball]

24) Kast: Busts out of nowhere with his rolecop claim. And rolecop doesn't sit right with me compared to the other town PRs seen so far. That said, he's *confirmed* rolecop (by both danakillsu and Zdenek). I'm content to let him get NK'ed, or, failing that, listen to his reports until lylo, and then maybe lynch him.

We have hypocop out there so... I can see a scum rolecop.

[DrippingGoofball]

I expect a serial killer to have a nightkill. The rolecop on Zdenek is "Modified Nightkill Immune." No mention of a nightkill.

So what does modified mean? Modified with a nightkill?

We can lynch Zdenek-SK, and tomorrow we can lynch Kast-rolecop-scum. I will be NK'd by the scum for suggesting this, unless a few of you express your willingness to carry out this plan, sincere or not. But try to be convincing.

VOTE: Zdenek

[DrippingGoofball]

EBWOP:
Questions/Comments/Cases you'd like to see me make?

/sorry for quadruple post

pops is mod-confirmed town.

[DrippingGoofball]

A single tear sprang to my eye when reading that post from Andrius.
Brilliant, my man, simply brilliant.

Yeah. What can I say. He's town.

[DrippingGoofball]

Please re-read Andrius - he's not good at a glance. He might be good after a few more days of posting, but not right now.

Well hello scum.

[DrippingGoofball]

So, hypothetically: If we lynched you, and you came up town, we'd have two mod-confirmed town (popsofctown and Benmage), yes? This is what you're saying?

That, my friend, is a fact.

[DrippingGoofball]

I'm seriously contemplating lynching DGB because of this:

So, hypothetically: If we lynched you, and you came up town, we'd have two mod-confirmed town (popsofctown and Benmage), yes? This is what you're saying?

That, my friend, is a fact.

That's a combination of my annoyance at the playstyle, the lack of a townread on DGB, and a willingness to call the bluff if it's all a fake claim to begin with. It's tempered by diddin's buddying to DGB D1. In the meantime, I'll go with my second scum read, because I approve of the Nexus-rb's-Zdenek plan:

UNVOTE: Nexus
VOTE: Andrius

So let's recap.

You're considering lynching me despite the fact that my role PM states that Benmage is town.
You're considering lynching me despite the fact that I received a hypocop clear of DTM/pops.
You're considering lynching me despite the fact that I said that my death would confirm the two statements above to be true.

I don't like your use of "

willingness to call the bluff if it's all a fake claim to begin with

" because you have to consider that I'm town, and not a PR, in which case you can't expect me to say anything different. It's more than a little disingenuous.

[DrippingGoofball]

Btw dgb, my comment on setael was a joke.

Oh

Then Setael is scum.

[DrippingGoofball]

VOTE: Setael

[DrippingGoofball]

Setael and Thor as priorities, the other two will wait for their turn at the guillotine.

[DrippingGoofball]

imo, best to lynch DGB before a night that it is inconvenient for scum to NK her clears. like right after a pr claim

Least-thought-of plan of the year.

[DrippingGoofball]

UNVOTE:

[DrippingGoofball]

VOTE: Raivann

[DrippingGoofball]

DGB

The hypocop result that was given to you on greyice slot....Was it alignment confirmed, or rolecop, or namecop? And it occurred N1? And you haven't gotten anything else?

It was ALIGNMENT.

I have gotten nothing else.

Maybe it's a hypo-allsorts-investigator...

[DrippingGoofball]

pops' plan nets us a scummy-lynch. It's an elaborate way of bypassing the duel.

My plan is better in that it will either get us two scummy-lynches, or get us a scummy-lynch and a confirmed-scum-lynch-the-next-day. That is, it makes the duel work to our advantage.

I'm opposed to the players you've put forward.

At the wedding table, I got a pro-town vibe from Setael.

[DrippingGoofball]

We need to lynch Zdenek and Thor. He killed Kast.

[DrippingGoofball]

Also, I might have killed Kast

You realize that there is no pro-town explanation for your targeting of Kast.

[DrippingGoofball]

We could nominate Zdenek to "defend" Thor.

[DrippingGoofball]

That's rather few people left to be the scum: Setael, DGB, Thor, Twilight Sparkle, danakillsu, Benmage is about it.

Except Benmage is town. And I am too.

[DrippingGoofball]

5. Lynching zden and freeing up the roleblock is bad because.....?????????????????????????????????

EXACTLY.

Zdenek has to die.

[DrippingGoofball]

Yes, oh mighty scumhunters, Thor claimed the scum kill in thread - obviously.

No I'm claiming you did the scum kill.

[DrippingGoofball]

Yeah. We can't let a SK saunter in the public places with a vote, all day long, and rely on a RB that could otherwise net us some mafia.

[DrippingGoofball]

DGB/Pops/Thor, can anyone comment on Bunnylover's presence during the Wedding?

Worrisomely unremarkable.

[DrippingGoofball]

Yes, oh mighty scumhunters, Thor claimed the scum kill in thread - obviously.

No I'm claiming you did the scum kill.

Then either you're wrong in your presumption or are lying, take your pick. And also - the point of quoting me was...? And as you answer that, ask why Ben quoted it - you at least I see it within meta to randomly glom onto whatever. Ben backing the play though, and doing the exact same trimming of the quote as you did? What's your take on that?

K, I was faking, you didn't send the scum kill.

I don't understand the rest of your question.

[DrippingGoofball]

THIS IS ME CALLING FOR AN END TO THE "HYPOTHETICAL COP" DISCUSSION.

Hypo cop is a cop whose results are sent to a third player. Not "hypothetical cop," silly you.

[DrippingGoofball]

Lemme help you with that.

The Rest

(3/7 scum?)
Magua
danakillsu

popsofctown

Bunnylover

DGB

Thor
Setael

[DrippingGoofball]

@ TS - yes I have played with Xtomx before.

I'm Osmund, and I know my brother Osfryd (Benmage) is in the game and Lannister aligned.

[DrippingGoofball]

I wonder if DGB's alignment confirmed is 100% true...then I'm effing baffled

That is to say... I wonder if DGB's message from the mods on POPS is 100%...DGB confirm that the message must be true?? Possible?

I confirm the message on pops to be true, no gambit here.

[DrippingGoofball]

1. DGB doesn't actually know I'm town. She just knows my name is Jaime Lannister.

Indeed. I figured that "Lannister" was good enough.

[DrippingGoofball]

Pops, Shadow is town. This isn't based on setup, this is just recognizing town-play when I see it.

Seconded.

[DrippingGoofball]

If LynchMePls is a

1-shot CPR doc

I have to remember to fakeclaim

1-shot CPR doc

next time I'm scum. It's a great one.

[DrippingGoofball]

Heavy suspicion that Locke Lamora is the SK.

Oh yeah, why?

[DrippingGoofball]

Yeah Setael, what with the not-picking Thor bizniss?

Your silence on the matter is telling.

[DrippingGoofball]

He didn't bother to address anything I said about either of them, nor let anyone else weigh in. Instead ordered someone to hammer. After this post, I started thinking about picking Magua instead of Thor. That way if I died, I'd at least take one of the scum team down with me and if I didn't I'd have a chance to make a case on Magua. This way the scum has to get one more mislynch and when I flip town maybe you'll actually look at Magua.

I just don't understand.

[DrippingGoofball]

Seriously though, put yourself in my shoes. Choice A guarantees a mislynch and possibly 2 mislynches. Choice B leads to either one mislynch and a scum dead or one mislynch. Also, if you choose B scum has to get one more townie mislynched. Choice B is clearly superior, so that is what I did.

Can you explain it so a brainless numbskull like myself can understand it?

[DrippingGoofball]

I.E. if you are town.. OMGUFS

You're entertaining the possibility of Setael-town?

What I don't understand is why Setael followed some vague hunch by herself, knowing that Thor was going to die no matter what, not actually knowing Magua's alignment.

So I have a hard time wrapping my head around Setael-town doing this. The justification *might* work if Setael-town knew Magua and Thor's alignments... but she'd only know if she were scum, obv.

[DrippingGoofball]

Setael is probably scum with Magua.

[DrippingGoofball]

And here comes the WIFOM:

BUNNYLOVER PROTECT ME

Has everyone posted yet today?

[DrippingGoofball]

Setael may be scum, but if we lynch Zdenek, don't we have one fewer NK?

[DrippingGoofball]

I TOLD YOU ALL THAT HASDGFAS WAS FAKING HIS RESTRICTION AND SHOULD HAVE BEEN LYNCHED DAY 1.

But practical I failed as Doctor this game. I wasn't able to keep up with the game, and therefore missed Kast claimed which could have gotten Zdenek lynched earlier. Damn.

YEAH.

Good job hascow.